I have read a few other 'sketch' conversations on here but nothing had quite answered my questions!! I can't seem to get my head around, when or if a client gets a sketch of their cake.. for example if i do a wedding consultation/tasting and tell the client I will email them with a quote etc I was thinking that once their deposit was paid I could send them a full colour sketch so they knew exactly what I was working towards but Iv now thought.. What would they even pay a deposit if they haven't seen what theirs cake will look like?! BUT if I send the sketch along with the quote Iv read some people say clients can then take your sketch and have it done cheaper somewhere else and steal your ideas!! Hope this makes sense, how do you conduct your consulations and sketches etc?
I don't make sketches for the most part because I am not the best of sketch artists, but on the rare occasion where I do sit down & make a sketch, upon request I will scan it into my computer, and plaster my (mostly transparent) bakery name across the sketch (I use Picasa) before sending it on. I feel you on the "steal the idea/picture/concept & get it done for cheaper elsewhere" issue, and I will only send sketches to certain clients for exactly that reason!
Most of my brides come in with ideas culled from Pinterest (dang it!), and I usually just pin those photos to my own boards and take lots of notes. I don't make sketches at that point because what's the point in re-creating it on paper (it's enough of a challenge sometimes to re-create it in cake...)? I've got enough detail in the order that a sketch, by that point, is mostly unnecessary.
No, No, No! Once they pay their deposit and sign the contract the drawing is all theirs. Prior to that it belongs to me. The experience I have had in several industries is that once they have your drawing they go shopping with it. They are also welcome to the design if they wish to pay a 10% design fee (10% of the quote) and they can have it. I refuse to work on a design for hours or days only to lose the job because the client took my drawing to a competitor and got a lower quote for my work. HTH
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No, No, No! Once they pay their deposit and sign the contract the drawing is all theirs. Prior to that it belongs to me. The experience I have had in several industries is that once they have your drawing they go shopping with it. They are also welcome to the design if they wish to pay a 10% design fee (10% of the quote) and they can have it. I refuse to work on a design for hours or days only to lose the job because the client took my drawing to a competitor and got a lower quote for my work. HTH
Yep!
Yes, never hand over a sketch without some kind of retainer/deposit. Like mentioned people love to shop around these day's, so make sure you get paid for your design and sketching time.
Interesting thread as I give all of my drawings away without a deposit. I did run into two situations where the client took my drawings elsewhere and had the work done (horribly by the way) at a lower cost. I do this part time and don't feel comfortable charging for the designs but if I was a proper shop I most definitely would.
I do always supply a sketch unless it's for family and friends so I don't get into a situation where they were expecting something different (colors, etc). I do take some liberties sometimes as not everything on paper translates well to an actual cake.
Cheers,
Frank
Once they give me their 50% non-refundable retainer I am happy to give it to them. Not until then.
I will do a quick sketch and email to help them visualize what I'm talking about... but they only take a few minutes to draw. If it was something really elaborate... I would show them in person and not give it away for free.
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