Need help with pricing out this cake. What is the going rate for fondant covered cakes? Also not sure how to price out each Figure since I would probably take more time than a more experienced decorator so I can't really charge by the hour. Can anyone suggest or know what the average cost of figures similar to those in the photo would be. Thanks!!
**ONLY making the bottom 2 tiers of the cake in the photo
Forgot to include: its for 50 servings
anyone have suggestions. PLEASE!
i wouldn't know im only an amateur but there are pricing guides on pinterest if that helps any
Pricing depends on sooooo many different factors the *MOST IMPORTANT* one being one CANNOT sell Disney themed cakes!
The other factors to consider when pricing cakes would be your location; are you capable of such an intense design; do you bake scratch or mix are just a few of them; what are your investment costs (ALL supplies, ingredients used such as fondant, coloring, board(s), boxes; actual baking supplies be it mix or flour, sugar etc to create the cake alone) and how long it takes to create your masterpieces.
That's one very detailed cake - I would guess it might take 30 hours to make. So cost of ingredients + materials + utilities + hourly rate. In Australia, I would charge $600-$800 for that for 50 serves or $12-$15 per serve.
To gauge the market in your area you are best to check out websites of your local cake decorators. Many offer a pricing guide - it helps to weed out the time wasted quoting to people who think a $300 cake will cost $25. They have helpful guides, like "fondant cakes start at $xxx). That would be their cheapest price based on economies of scale ie 100-200 serves. So use that information to formulate your own pricing guides.
For figurines, there are many people who sell fondant figurines on Etsy. Checking out the various listings gives you a good indication of what the market price for figurines is (even if they can knock one out in a hour and it takes you 5 hours).
The best rule I learnt so far in business - is, if I get sick, injured, or whatever and need to pay someone to make that cake on my behalf, or buy ready-made elements, what will they charge me. No they wont want to work for $2 hour to the wee hours of the morning, so neither should I quote like that is the going rate.
WOW! 30 hours? I was not planning for that, that's for sure. I have confidence I can do something very similar but it will take a lot of time, but wasn't thinking 30 hours. Are you talking baking & decorating? I've never had a cake with quite this many figures on it & your right, they always take longer to make than you think. I am a home baker and I usually don't charge what I should, I think because I don't have an actual "Shop" I can't charge as much as bakeries do. Most bakeries in my area don't offer cakes this detailed or at least they don't advertise on their website. The price guidelines they list are very vague ("custom cakes are priced on an individual basis") so its very hard to figure it out where to start.
I think Magic Mouthfuls is right on target with the 30 hour assessment. If you are making the fondant you also have to count the time it will take to mix all those colors, that alone will take quite a bit of time. There is so much fondant detail, 30 hours might be a conservative estimate. You should definitely find out their budget. They probably look at it and think, "That's probably pretty expensive... maybe $90?" Ha! Cake civilians have NO idea!
Yes I do make all my own fondant & your right the coloring of it for each detail/figure always takes some time. I guess I'd like to know what is a good base fondant cake price? I was originally thinking $4.50/serv. then add $10 per figure. Again I guess I'm not charging enough. Thanks for all your helpful info :)
i'm seeing that a little different the list totals maybe 4 hours for modeling -- then add time for coloring the fondant but these are all primary type colors not elaborate mixing -- you can buy these colors pre-mixed -- you gotta bake the cake and cover with fondant --
and i think the times i list below are generous but i think this is close to realistic -- pipe the windshield on the car when you have the royal ready for the snow blobs
- 1/2 hour 2 lanterns & a car
- 1/4 hour candy canes, christmas lights (made at different times)
- 1/2 hour 4-5 trees
- 1/4 hour doorway, window
- 1/4 hour 3 presents, 2 signs
- 1/2 hour 21 snowflakes
- 1 1/2 hours 4 figurines
- 1/4 hour royal icing snow blob borders
i mean you might need to put a few details like the windshield on the car after it sets up some snow on the trees but a certain amount of time is allowed for decor anyhow
You must be some kind of modeling speed demon Kate! There is no way I could model 4 figures in 1 1/2 hours! I made one hiking guy with a backpack in an evening - remember us slow poke home bakers! Plus we're only seeing the front.
yes of course, pbl -- but it's another perspective -- not that either way is right nor are they the only two ways to do it -- for the back i would make/add more presents & candy canes, a window or two -- the 21 snowflakes would go all the way around -- i wouldn't use any figurines back there maybe a tree -- but break it all down -- think in terms of sausages and balls -- easy peasy -- they are not super detailed designs --
k8memphis- what would you charge per figure? I don't have a supply of premade fondant. I make homemade MMF & color as needed. Its too costly to buy all different colors of premade fondant to use just for decorations here & there.
I would charge for 2-3 hours of additional work on this cake -- because i have an hour or two decorating time built into my price per serving anyhow --
the reason i mentioned pre-colored fondant is because it makes the job quicker and saves your hands - all the choices are up to you - but this is another reason why the average home caker doesn't compete with the average pro -- just the way it is
then again the above average home caker comes up with some doozies sometimes that a pro would never want/get to sell because the cost for the client is too high and the time is too much --
so it definitely goes both ways