Where Do I Get A Copyright For A Cake?
Decorating By minicoopermel Updated 18 Mar 2015 , 2:20pm by cakesbycathy
So far I've done a few cakes that are just flowers or misc decor but I did a minion guy and now I'm worried. What calls for a copyright? Where do I get them?
Thanks!
Anything that has a trademarked or copyright image requires permission.
Usually you contact the legal department for the company who holds the rights...
Cake central has a multitude of copyright threads to aide you as well...
Many people say that you should have the client get the release so that it has the client angry at the rights holder instead of you if the company doesn't allow it (i.e. Disney)...
You do also have the option of using licensed character toys on top of a color themed cake... Or decopac...
You will also here clients tell you they will just find someone else to do it also...
Are you wanting to copyright your cake designs?
Or are you wanting to obtain license to make cakes from characters with a copyright on them?
Either scenario is fairly unlikely. I've never heard of anyone successfully copyrighting their cake or obtaining a license from a company to sell copyrighted cakes..not saying it can't happen though.
No I don't want to license my cakes.
I just have an order for an Elmo, Cookie Monster, Mickey Mouse, and minions coming up. Didn't know if I needed to get permission to do them or if I should ask to buy the toys and just include them in the cakes..
Make sure you leave plenty of time for the permission. Most of the bigger companies do not see your request as a priority and are terrible at getting back with you. I waited almost a month for a return call for a college response only to get a "no". Make a phone call rather than sending an e-mail; seems to be a better response time. I have an article about Copyright Infringement that someone had given me; I would be have to let you look at it.
Quote by @minicoopermel on 1 hour ago
No I don't want to license my cakes.
I just have an order for an Elmo, Cookie Monster, Mickey Mouse, and minions coming up. Didn't know if I needed to get permission to do them or if I should ask to buy the toys and just include them in the cakes..
I would start asking about the toy's; it's very unlikely that they will say yes if you are selling your cakes. I mean you can still contact the companies and ask, but it's best to hedge your bets and talk to your customers about using licensed characters in case the answers "no" or like above they just don't respond in time.
Here is the article I had mentioned earlier. It might be helpful to someone.
Copyright Infringement
What’s the deal with copyright infringement regarding Disney, Nickelodeon, etc.? I’m just a small home baker and it will kill my business if I can’t make fondant figures.
It’s
like a caking urban legend — the tale of the little home baker being served a
cease and desist order or being sued for making Elsa from Frozen. Does it
really happen? Can it happen? We’re all a bit confused about the truth behind
copyright infringement and the use of trademarked characters and brand logos.
What is OK? What can we safely do? What are the legal issues surrounding using
these images and likenesses? (See? So many questions!) This debate is HOT right
now in the caking community and there's a lot of misinformation out there.
Can you legally use a design (image, character, logo, etc.) in your cakes that
someone else created?” No. Not legally. I know. That was some tough love right
there. But I would be leading you astray if I told you to keep making Elsa
cakes in a cloud of powdered sugar bliss. The cold, hard fact is that the
creators of these works are protected in a number of ways by the law, and that
protection includes derivative works — cakes that have one or two details
tweaked so as not be exact replicas. Still an infringement. There are many
court cases documenting infringements, and in ways subtler than cake and cookie
creation.
“But!" you cry. "Cinderella was created way before Disney ever got
their money-grubbing hands on her, so she’s still fair game, right?” Let’s be
honest: Are you going to make a replica of Charles Perrault’s 1697 Cinderella,
or Disney’s? Exactly. You and the 647,992 other cake decorators around the
world are going to recreate Disney’s iconic interpretation of the tale (leaving
4 cakers paying tribute to Perrault’s Cendrillon, and kudos to them.) Here
again the answer is “No. It’s not legal.” “But lots of other decorators do it
and they're fine," you argue. "Why should I worry?” If your friends
jumped off a bridge would you jump, too? It’s really that simple. Just because
they haven’t been caught and served cease and desist orders or, worse, hit with
a lawsuit, doesn’t make it any more legal for your business.
“Well, what if I make a basic cake and add little plastic figures from the toy
store to the top?” you ask. Alright. Now you’re getting clever. But it’s still
a gray area. According to some copyright and trademark lawyers, the rights of
the creator end when a purchase is made of licensed products, like figurines.
How they are used after purchase is no longer under control of the creator. Let
me insert a big "but" right here. It is still not a good idea to
purchase a bunch of toys to slap on top of cakes and advertise that you do so
for profit. It’s the profit thing that most companies/designers/creators are
concerned with. Let’s jump into reality for a moment. Is it likely that Disney
is going to go after every cake maker that makes a Belle, Nemo, or Elsa cake?
No. Just know that they have the right to do so and can exercise that right
when they see fit. Odd as it may seem, they have to actively defend their
designs to maintain their rights. Going after little cakers is within their
ability and it’s something big companies have done, and will continue to do.
I can’t tell you how to run your cakey world. We all have to make decisions for
ourselves. If you’re OK with making character cakes without license and
accepting the risks involved, go for it. If you’re pouting and kicking the toe
of your sneaker against the flour bin, and begrudgingly throwing up your white
flag to the big guys, good for you. It’s your decision. You have the facts. Now
you know the risks.
For additional information, facts, and just plain good advice:
Selling
Cakes With Copyrighted Characters and Selling
Copyrighted Character Cakes - Should you do it?
from cakeboss.com.
And the final word, at least in the United States, The
US Copyright Office.
Short answer...if you are selling the cake (even just accepting money for ingredients) it is illegal to reproduce the characters without permission.
You are not going to get permission. Disney, Nick Jr., etc. are not going to give you permission to recreate Elmo, Dora ,etc. They're just not. Unless you are a big time decorator (think Bronwen Weber, Duff, the Cake Boss) or working for Food Network.
You should have your client purchase the toy figurines of the characters.
For future reference sports teams and colleges are more likely to give you permission to replicate their logos
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