Do I Make A Golly Wog Cake

Decorating By nikki54321 Updated 22 Oct 2014 , 9:15am by SystemMod2

nikki54321 Posted 16 Oct 2014 , 7:48pm
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hi all 

this may sound a strange question but i have been asked to make a cake with a golly wog on it for someones birthday. i dont know much about the history about golly wogs but know that many people think of them as racist. im not a racist person at all but will making this cake look like i am? i work at a school as well so i wouldnt want anyone thinking i am in any way.

please share your opinions on this.

 

Also this is for a big party so many people will see this cake

thanks 

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kakeladi Posted 16 Oct 2014 , 8:57pm
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I know nothing about that particular thing but think of it this way:

Would you make a XXXX rated cake to take to a big party at a school? 

To me it would be just about the same thing.

It's your call :)

SugarBakers05 Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 2:46pm
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Ai would strongly advise that you DO NOT make this. Golly wogs are extremely racist and offensive images. i'm sure it is not worth the backlash and humiliation you will endure when its seen. You may say you are not racist, but the fact that others will be deeply offended and hurt by it should be a giant red flag to you. if you still decide to do it, just be prepared for the fallout, you can't say nobody didnt tell you.

craftybanana Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 4:54pm
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I had to look up what a golly wog was, apparently it's the equivalent of "black face" here in the USA. Yes they may be a nostalgic doll, but because it's seen as racist you could lose your job over it And don't forget the a big media scandal about a racists "teacher" who  made a racist cake. The Media loves these types of stories to the point where you may get your face plastered everywhere and not be able to get another job until it dies down. The media doesn't care about your views if they're not politically correct (or in line with theirs, lols). 

 

edited for spelling, lol

enga Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 7:16pm
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Originally Posted by nikki54321 
 

hi all 

this may sound a strange question but i have been asked to make a cake with a golly wog on it for someones birthday. i dont know much about the history about golly wogs but know that many people think of them as racist. im not a racist person at all but will making this cake look like i am? i work at a school as well so i wouldnt want anyone thinking i am in any way.

please share your opinions on this.

 

Also this is for a big party so many people will see this cake

thanks 

I cant believe you even posted this. But you go ahead and make it, be sure and post pics and see how well it is received.

AZCouture Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 10:37pm
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ASounds to me like she's genuinely wanting to avoid controversy, and is trusting the people here to help her out.

bilbo Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 10:44pm
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Originally Posted by enga 
 

I cant believe you even posted this. But you go ahead and make it, be sure and post pics and see how well it is received.

I can't believe you even posted This. No one needs to be bullied on here for asking for help.

DeliciousDesserts Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 10:44pm
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Original message sent by enga

I cant believe you even posted this. But you go ahead and make it, be sure and post pics and see how well it is received.

The whole point of her post was to ask because she was concerned. According to what she wrote, she anticipates that she may have to pass on this one.

Some people are truly naive about what others may deem offensive. Surely you of all people could have found a kinder voice of caution. If not, you need only look at the posts above you.

enga Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 11:20pm
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carmijok Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 11:48pm
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AI think the question of who the client is also needs to be asked. If it's for a black person who collects them (and there are people who do), then to me it would not be a problem. But for every other circumstance I would shy away. In fact, If you feel uncomfortable ...and it sounds like you do...you might just play it safe and back off regardless. You were wise to ask.

pastrypet Posted 17 Oct 2014 , 11:54pm
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Originally Posted by enga 
 

I cant believe you even posted this. But you go ahead and make it, be sure and post pics and see how well it is received.

 

The OP posted a legitimate question because she was concerned and she needed guidance. She received plenty of advise before you posted. Your post is rude, antagonistic, and completely un-called for. I can't believe you could post what you did. You owe nicki54321 an apology!

enga Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:04am
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Golly wog or Wog is a very offensive racial slur. The reason I cant believe that she posted the question or that she doesn't know if she should make this cake or not is because if you simply research the word, all kinds of racially offensive things pop up.

 

If she doesn't have a problem with it then hey, by all means, make the cake. 

msbelle21 Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:09am
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AOP, I personally wouldn't do a cake (or anything) I don't feel 100% about. There are other bakers (I'm sure) who could make such a cake with no questions asked. You mentioned that you work at a school. Do bear in mind that this is the social media era. Any questionable behavior outside of work can surely reach your workplace. I truly doubt that this cake is worth the hassle that may follow. Just something to consider.

pastrypet Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:18am
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 People come to Cake Central to ask all kinds of questions all the time about things that they could get answers to if they just did a Google (or other) search, but they don't. They want to hear directly from their colleagues, who understand the choices cakers have to make. I believe that the OP will not make the cake due to the very good advice she received.

MBalaska Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:20am
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Originally Posted by msbelle21 
OP, I personally wouldn't do a cake (or anything) I don't feel 100% about. There are other bakers (I'm sure) who could make such a cake with no questions asked. You mentioned that you're a teacher. Do bear in mind that this is the social media era. Any questionable behavior outside of work can surely reach your workplace. I truly doubt that this cake is worth the hassle that may follow. Just something to consider.
  I'll tell you what planet that saying anything at all is punishable......this one. It's immediate and wide reaching.

 

Excellent advise @msbelle21.

msbelle21 Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:23am
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AIn that same token, there are many people who come on Cake Central and reply to threads before reading the original post. The OP said that people see golliwogs as offensive. She asked if this would affect her reputation as a baker. That isn't something that can be found on Google.

And thanks MB.

mcaulir Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:26am
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Where I live, they're actually pretty commonly bought and loved. If you simply research the word here, you'll get people selling them pop up. I don't know where the OP lives, but maybe it's the same, and she was researching he word by asking here.

 

And she clearly does have a problem with it, otherwise why would she have asked?

enga Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:40am
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Originally Posted by pastrypet 
 

 People come to Cake Central to ask all kinds of questions all the time about things that they could get answers to if they just did a Google (or other) search, but they don't. They want to hear directly from their colleagues, who understand the choices cakers have to make. I believe that the OP will not make the cake due to the very good advice she received before you posted.

 

So what are you saying, that I shouldn't give advice? I don't have a right to voice my opinion on whether the OP should make a racist cake? She asked if it would make her seem racist and I said that it would.

 

I was shocked when I saw the word Golly Wog and when she said in her own words  "i dont know much about the history about golly wogs but know that many people think of them as racist."  pretty much says that she knew that it was offensive too.

 

You can try and spin it any way you want to. I stand by what I posted whether you feel that it was good advice or not.

 

 

 

"Where I live, they're actually pretty commonly bought and loved. If you simply research the word here, you'll get people selling them pop up. I don't know where the OP lives, but maybe it's the same, and she was researching he word by asking here.

 

And she clearly does have a problem with it, otherwise why would she have asked?

 

You seem to be being difficult just for the sake of it."

 

Like I said, I stand by what I posted and where I live they are considered racist but to each his own.

 

 

 

mcaulir Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:50am
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Originally Posted by enga 
 

 

So what are you saying, that I shouldn't give advice? I don't have a right to voice my opinion on whether the OP should make a racist cake? She asked if it would make her seem racist and I said that it would.

 

I was shocked when I saw the word Golly Wog and when she said in her own words  "i dont know much about the history about golly wogs but know that many people think of them as racist."  pretty much says that she knew that it was offensive too.

 

You can try and spin it any way you want to. I stand by what I posted whether you feel that it was good advice or not.

It wasn't the advice that was the problem - advice which, incidentally, was almost universally agreed to by most posters on the thread.

 

The problem was the sarcasm, and the implication of the OP's stupidity, that you used in your first post. Not very cool.

JWinslow Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 12:54am
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Originally Posted by enga 
 

I cant believe you even posted this. But you go ahead and make it, be sure and post pics and see how well it is received.


This is not advice.  It is a snide sarcastic remark made to make the OP feel bad about even asking a question. 

OP, msbelle21 has given some good solid advice to follow. I personally would not do the cake.  The backlash could have negative consequences as a result - just not worth it.  Sometimes it's just best to say no but you really need to make this decision.

enga Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 1:08am
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Originally Posted by JWinslow 
 
 

"This is not advice.  It is a snide sarcastic remark made to make the OP feel bad about even asking a question."
 

 

No it wasn't and please don't put words into my mouth. That is how YOU perceived it but it was not MY intention to make her feel bad. I was only making her aware of it's offensiveness.

enga Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 1:23am
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Again people, the name of this thread is "do I make a golly wog cake" So I'm wrong for saying I cant believe someone would ask this question? REALLY?!?

 

In this day and age OP, you want to know if you should make a cake that represents a doll in Black face? And I'm being sarcastic J? Ummmmmkay. I feel like making this cake would be wrong on so many levels and if you want to rake me over the coals for saying so then go right ahead. That is my answer and I'm sticking to it.

AZCouture Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 1:57am
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AShoot, I've never seen one or heard the expression until today. So, I certainly wouldn't have known, and I certainly wouldn't replied in a nasty manner like that. Just apologize already, geez.

MBalaska Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 2:15am
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The only privacy that's left, is inside your head.  

shanter Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 2:27am
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I, also, was not familiar with the  term Now I know. The OP didn't just ask the question "Should I make this cake?" but also if it might damage her reputation.

 

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Originally Posted by msbelle21 

In that same token, there are many people who come on Cake Central and reply to threads before reading the original post. The OP said that people see golliwogs as offensive. She asked if this would affect her reputation as a baker. That isn't something that can be found on Google.

You're absolutely right. What the OP wanted to know would not be found on Google.

 

Enga, you have a tendency to make histrionic posts after a question has been asked and politely and informatively answered. It is wearing.

enga Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 2:49am
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Originally Posted by shanter 
 

I, also, was not familiar with the  term Now I know. The OP didn't just ask the question "Should I make this cake?" but also if it might damage her reputation.

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by msbelle21 

In that same token, there are many people who come on Cake Central and reply to threads before reading the original post. The OP said that people see golliwogs as offensive. She asked if this would affect her reputation as a baker. That isn't something that can be found on Google.

You're absolutely right. What the OP wanted to know would not be found on Google.

 

Enga, you have a tendency to make histrionic posts after a question has been asked and politely and informatively answered. It is wearing.

 

 

 

 

It's not wearing on you. You love to read my posts, why else would you be here, lol.  I doesn't matter what I would have said, you would have found fault in it.

 
Golly wog is a racial slur and this thread should be deleted. I am appalled that it was even allowed to be put up. I guess you have to live in Australia or the UK and be of a darker complexion to get the full impact of it's meaning.
 

I challenge each of you to make this cake and put it on your websites and tell me how well your business goes.

 

Moderator, I implore you to delete this thread it is racially offensive.

MimiFix Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 2:58am
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 Originally Posted by enga 

I challenge each of you to make this cake and put it on your websites and tell me how well your businesses goes.

 

Why would anyone do that? I thought opinions were to not make this cake. 

 

(enga, flag the thread if you think it should be removed.)

enga Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 3:01am
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Every time someone googles that word they will be directed to this thread. I wonder what they will think about it?

MimiFix Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 3:05am
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Then lucky us, the OP spelled it wrong... Golliwog

enga Posted 18 Oct 2014 , 3:12am
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Hmmmmm, how very telling.

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