Sugar Dress vs. Sugar Veil what are the differences?

Decorating By CupcakeGirl65 Updated 26 Nov 2014 , 9:38pm by emilyg

CupcakeGirl65 Posted 14 Feb 2014 , 4:19pm
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I never used this medium for cakes but i see such pretty and intricate molds i would love to apply to my cakes. I don't know the differences such as...

yellowing over time, taste, does it stay playable or does it harden, if so how long does it take to harden.

Can I mix a small batch or do I need to use the whole package in one shot?

how long does it stay in the fridge or on the counter top. Does air dry it out?

OK I have lots of questions can you guys help me out!!! thanks sooo much!!!!

Christina

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caketherapy Posted 14 Mar 2014 , 9:12pm
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I was wondering what the difference is and can they be put on buttercream or would it dissolve? . If you found out anything please share.

rychevamp Posted 14 Mar 2014 , 10:12pm
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Technically I can't tell you the difference.  What I can say is that Sugar Dress is so easy to work with and Sugarveil is a PITA.  

 

Sugar Dress comes in a bucket, with a small bottle of liquid inside.  There are instructions that tell you how to make a small batch, you don't have to use the entire bucket.  

I'm not sure how long a mixed batch will last, but I've had some in the fridge for about three days.  It's still usable.

So far, the lace I have made has stayed very pliable in a plastic bag.  It says it will stay that way for several months.  I left a piece out on a sheet pan for two days, and it was still fine.  
I haven't tasted it yet, but it smells like very sweet royal icing.  

I think it would be fine on buttercream.  It's pretty sturdy, so I doubt dissolving would be an issue.  

I don't think yellowing would be an issue either.  

There is another thread discussing the differences as well.

caketherapy Posted 14 Mar 2014 , 10:24pm
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I had to look up what PITA meant LOL! I have recently seen a BC cake that had it so It seems ok. It was also tinted black with icing color so that's cool too. Thanks for your help!! 

StephanieLynn Posted 30 Mar 2014 , 1:30am
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Has anyone ever colored the sugar dress (adding color while mixing)?  Just curious, this would be gorgeous with  black lace on a white cake

acakedecorator Posted 30 Mar 2014 , 2:42am
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Does anyone know if the Sugar Dress mix goes bad? I would like to purchase some to play around with, but I do not know how much I would use it.

bonniekaye Posted 30 Mar 2014 , 6:43pm
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Original message sent by StephanieLynn

Has anyone ever colored the sugar dress (adding color while mixing)?  Just curious, this would be gorgeous with  black lace on a white cake

I added black color to the sugar lace mixture and it worked just fine. I made black lace pieces to put on a white cake and it was very pretty

StephanieLynn Posted 5 Apr 2014 , 2:21am
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Thanks for letting me know!

JWinslow Posted 10 Apr 2014 , 2:58am
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I have played with Crystal Lace, Sugar Veil and Sugar Dress.  Hands down Sugar Dress is the best, IMO.  Easy to mix, takes color really well and stays pliable for a very long time.  I used it in the Sugar Veil Leaves mat that is much thinner than the Sugar dress mats and it still worked great.  I needed the leaves to go stiff but after 5 days it was still pliable so I added a wire to the back of the leaf with edible glue.  Worked great.   Great product!  Here are the leaves:

 

caketinsmith Posted 21 Apr 2014 , 6:05pm
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Hello everyone ,

 

Karens Edible Cake Lace is the new product in the market which is very good interms of prices and quality.

 

Edible Cake Lace - 500 Grams - White Premium Quality ( 2 Part Formulation Powder + Liquid) = £ 13.99

Edible Cake Lace - 200 Grams - Silver Premium Quality ( Premix ) = £ 13.99

Edible Cake Lace - 200 Grams - Gold Premium Quality ( Premix ) = £ 13.99

 

Lace Mats from £ 7 

 

 

 

The mixture will make soft paste which can be spread onto the pattern Lace Mats and let it dry .
Drying can be done at the normal temperature or using the oven for faster curing.
Once dried the Edible Lace can be peeled from the lace mat and can be used to decorate the cakes giving it a stylish and creative look. 
The Edible Cake Lace is soft , flexible and pliable.
The Edible Cake Lace have been made to the highest British Quality.

 

For more information

 

www.ediblecakelace.co.uk

www.facebook.com/ediblecakelace

 

      

 

 

       

JWinslow Posted 22 Apr 2014 , 7:16am
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Caketinsmith is a spammer - She's been showing up in several threads.  If you see her posts flag them so the Mods see it.

StephanieLynn Posted 1 May 2014 , 2:54pm
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It looks great!! Where did you get your leaf mold? Would love to have one for my self.

Gerle Posted 2 May 2014 , 10:16pm
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Oooooooh!  I love that leaf, but I can't believe how much SugarVeil is asking for that mat!!!!!  I hope some other company comes up with one that's like that, but NOT that expensive!  Sigh.....guess I'll have to do without......

MBalaska Posted 2 May 2014 , 10:24pm
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Normally prices of new and popular items seem to lower after being on the market after a while.

Gerle Posted 3 May 2014 , 5:51am
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My hubby would be like you and wouldn't pay for it....I'd be the one who would - to a degree.  I love my hobby, but I do realize there has to be a point when I have to do without.  I'll probably get one eventually, but it will be awhile....or one of those times when hubby tells me to get something I really want.  He doesn't fully understand "caking" toys, though!!

emilyg Posted 5 May 2014 , 2:32pm
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Hi CupcakeGirl - Sorry to have missed your post! Here are SugarVeil answers for you:

 

Yes, you can mix less than the entire 5 oz. pouch of SugarVeil (use an electric hand mixer for the really small amounts). Proportions are 142 gm (1 cup SugarVeil) to 120ml (1/2 cup) boiling water. 

 

If you would like to use SugarVeil immediately and set it within minutes, you can follow these 'oven-setting' instructions: http://www.facebook.com/notes/sugarveil-icing/oven-setting-sugarveil-instructions-for-use-with-sugarveil-confectioners-mats/589689461074977

 

You can store mixed SugarVeil for a week or more covered and in the fridge. Allow it to come to room temp, then rebeat for a minute before spreading. SugarVeil's color is naturally white, without added colorants. If you've mixed but not used it for several hours (on the left of the photo), just rebeat it to restore the natural white-white color on the right.

 

 

For storing finished SugarVeil decorations, place them between parchment sheets in an airtight container. Or, because SugarVeil decorations last indefinitely, you may choose to allow them to dry completely and store them in their 'dry' form. When ready to use, remoisten with water to restore flexibility, as instructed here:  https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152095286904893.1073741851.58910664892&type=1.

 

AppleMark

 

AppleMark

 

 

Re: buttercream - yes, you can place SugarVeil onto buttercream or any other surface. Here's a recent technique where you can create brooches with raised 'stones' by pressing SugarVeil decorations into the buttercream, like this: https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.10152213747879893.1073741858.58910664892&type=3

 

  

 

AppleMark

 

[These pieces are made from the 'Brooches' Mat, a mid-range mat from our selection of small to large Confectioners' Mats shown here: http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/sugarveil-mat.htm].

 

Taste-wise, SugarVeil has a pleasant, not-too-sweet, neutral flavor, which will not conflict, should you desire to add any type of flavoring. You may color SugarVeil with any liquid, powder, or gel color - all work well [for black, red, or any intense color, use powdered color] - or simply airbrush finished SugarVeil decorations.

 

Please let me know if I've missed addressing anything - for a fast response to questions, you can pose them here on our Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing. Thank you!

cake_architect Posted 5 May 2014 , 2:48pm
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I just got back from the Day of Sharing in San Antonio, TX and there was a booth set up for Sugar Dress. I fell in love immediately and bought the mix and two mats :D I mixed my first batch last night and set the mats- when I woke up I put on a second coat and will be removing them this evening after work. I'll keep ya'll posted on how it turns out!

gscout73 Posted 11 May 2014 , 4:23pm
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MIchele, I followed your link to get instructions on re-moistening a Sugar Veil piece, and there were no instructions, just the same pics as here. Can you please share how to re-moisten Sugar Veil?

emilyg Posted 11 May 2014 , 5:26pm
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Sure, Sandy - here are the instructions:

 

"SugarVeil has three stages: 'wet' (mixed - clings to the finger), 'set' (flexible - a wide window of time to manipulate into bows, ruffles, or wrap around a cake), and 'dry' (sans moisture - decorations have a delicate consistency for a easy bite and mouth feel). Drying also lends body to bows, other fabric-like decorations, and many other unusual techniques.

 

Place decorations on a rigid surface and allow to dry completely.

AppleMark

 

 

When ready to use, handle gently and either run thru a path of steam, or place briefly onto a damp towel (this happens quickly, so to delay the action a bit, you may want to place a sheet of parchment between the two)

 

 

Pat gently and allow decoration to absorb moisture from the towel.

 

 

After a minute or so, flexibility is restored, and you can place decoration onto cake, cupcake, or dessert".

AppleMark

 

 

Here's a sample of the 'mosaic technique' - one of the techniques using dried SugarVeil [I'll be demoing this at ICES in July]:

JWinslow Posted 11 May 2014 , 7:02pm
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Oh Wow!  I had no idea I could re-moisten SugarVeil - thank you very much emilyg !   Love that mosaic look :)

SweetyfromNYC Posted 15 Jul 2014 , 3:48pm
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From my experience, Sugar Dress is easier than veil and stays flexible longer. Each has it's uses for example if you want to make lace butterflies without needing wires, Sugar veil is the way to go. If you want flexible lace decorations that stay soft like fabric Sugar Dress all the way. Sugar dress also smells awesome and no mixer needed just stir.

FionaDawn Posted 25 Nov 2014 , 10:01pm
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Sugar veil seems really difficult to work with, and the cost is just too much for me.  I can bet that all this is, is some royal icing with some gelatin a bit of tylose and glycerin added to it! Problem is trying to figure out the right amount of each ingredients to mix together.

emilyg Posted 26 Nov 2014 , 9:38pm
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Hi Fiona - Happy to answer any SugarVeil questions you might have. Here are the most popular instructions (since they create SugarVeil decorations in minutes by oven setting), which may be of help to you: http://sugarveil.com/mat/SugarVeil-Confectioners-Mats.pdf.

 

Also, http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing is the quickest way to grab our attention question-wise, since we check it quite often, and we post new and exciting things there, like these Christmas cookies, and a sneak-peak of our upcoming "30 cent" (one Lace Mat strip) decorating challenge: 

 

 

 

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