CubasCakes Posted 13 Feb 2014 , 3:59am
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AThe cake that is my profile picture. All fondant over buttercream. Thanks!

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CubasCakes Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:20am
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AAnybody out there in Cake Central land? :)

BeesKnees578 Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:32am
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Nobody is replying to this because the subject has been beat to death.

 

It's all relative to where you are located, how much your ingredients cost, labor, etc.

 

Put it in the search bar and you will find a million posts on the subject.

 

Good luck!

CubasCakes Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:36am
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AOhhh ok. I'm still new to all this. Everyone keeps telling me I'm not charging enough. Thank you!

BeesKnees578 Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:43am
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No problem!

AZCouture Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:47am
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Well not only that, but you didn't say how many it served, what it's made with (premium ingredients or cheaper stuff), etc., etc. Way too much to guess at.

BeesKnees578 Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:49am
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Well not only that, but you didn't say how many it served, what it's made with (premium ingredients or cheaper stuff), etc., etc. Way too much to guess at.


Yes...that, too!  Important stuff!

AZCouture Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:52am
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Don't forget Costumeczar's advice a few months ago about copyright (for example, your Disney cake that you're asking about now). :)

MimiFix Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:53am
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costumeczar Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:25pm

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Don't forget Costumeczar's advice a few months ago about copyright (for example, your Disney cake that you're asking about now). :)

Not sure what advice it was other than don't sell Disney cakes unless you paid the thousands for their licenses that they require. So for how much that particular cake would cost the answer would be "nothing" unless you have that license.

BeesKnees578 Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:49pm

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Not sure what advice it was other than don't sell Disney cakes unless you paid the thousands for their licenses that they require. So for how much that particular cake would cost the answer would be "nothing" unless you have that license.

Had to laugh at this as I don't do copyrighted cakes either (or at least haven't for many, many years since I came to know that it was illegal!). 

 

It didn't even occur to me to put that in the advice...I was so focused on the question, rather than the picture.

CubasCakes Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:51pm

I'm so confused. I know I'm not allowed to use a character pan & sell cakes made from them. Which is fine with me because I personally think they're ugly. But I'm not allowed to hand sculpt something like a Mickey Mouse that I made from beginning myself without using any of Disney's products? There's tons of mickey mouse cakes like mine all over Cake Central & online. So all of those people are breaking a law? Maybe it's fine if you aren't using any of Disney's products. But that doesn't make sense either because plenty of cake supply stores sell Disney cake kit toppers. So maybe it only applies to the character shaped pans??

CubasCakes Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 3:53pm

And BeesKnees578 has an album titled Disney Cakes which has a Mickey Mouse clubhouse cake so she/he is breaking the law too or it's okay to make them ourselves like we did?

AAtKT Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 4:31pm

If you make a cake for yourself... say in your own home for your own family and don't sell it or make money from it... in theory it is okay...

 

Using images from any copyright without permission is illegal...

 

The kits you find are licensed to be used as instructed...

 

Here are a few links for other copyright topics here in cake central:

 

http://cakecentral.com/t/689728/warning-about-licensed-characters-and-copyrighted-material

 

http://cakecentral.com/t/749268/copyright-infringement-for-cake-decorations

 

http://cakecentral.com/t/755664/for-those-that-sell-disney-hello-kitty-and-other-copyrighted-cakes

 

http://cakecentral.com/t/740378/copyright-laws-questions

 

http://cakecentral.com/t/767171/copyright-infringement-on-candy-bar-themed-cakes

cakesbycathy Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 4:34pm

Disney is copyrighted.  You cannot recreate the characters by hand.  It is illegal to sell a cake with copyrighted characters on it.

 

The fact that there are a million cakes with Disney (or Nick Jr. or PBS) characters on the internet does not matter.  You have no idea which ones were sold and which ones were made for free for a son, daughter, nephew, niece, friend, etc. 

AZCouture Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 6:26pm

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Original message sent by costumeczar

Not sure what advice it was other than don't sell Disney cakes unless you paid the thousands for their licenses that they require. So for how much that particular cake would cost the answer would be "nothing" unless you have that license.

From a few months ago, more than that actually. It's in recent posts from Cuba Cakes

morganchampagne Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 6:45pm

AFree or not...its illegal either way. Some people say that if you're only making it for your kid...you're probably not going to get caught. But it's still illegal.

What is best to do is to buy Disney toys from Wal-Mart or something and put those on the cake if you want Mickey mouse. Or get creative and sketch out ways represent the character without breaking any laws

costumeczar Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 7:05pm

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Originally Posted by AZCouture 


From a few months ago, more than that actually. It's in recent posts from Cuba Cakes

Oh, Lordy, now I'm really done.

DeniseNH Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 8:49pm

They say that if the customer can look at the figure and recognize it immediately - and it's copyrighted, you're doing it illegally.  Tons of people do, but like the other poster mentioned, you don't know who they're being given to or sold to.  I can't and won't take that chance but some of the ladies in my cake club do.  By the way, your cake is fantastic.

Godot Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 9:01pm

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Original message sent by DeniseNH

They say that if the customer can look at the figure and recognize it immediately - and it's copyrighted, you're doing it illegally. 

Who are 'they'?

DeniseNH Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 9:19pm

The owners of the copyright or whoever calls you out on it from the company.  This was in response to her question about "what if I create the image myself".  It's not your image to copy.  The company holds a patent on that image and doesn't make one cent off of their image if you ignore the law and copy it - key words COPYright, we don't have the authority to copy it then sell it for profit.  As long as you're not profiting from it you're ok.

costumeczar Posted 18 Feb 2014 , 10:03pm

And you don't always know who your customer is or who will be at the party. I was on the phone with the father of a mom-to-be. He had been given the job of calling and arranging the baby shower cake. He said that they were having a Classic Pooh theme and his daughter wanted that for the cake. I told him that I would do a foresty theme, like the hundred acre wood, but I wouldn't do any trademarked characters since I didn't want to get involved in copyright or trademark violations, he said "Good, because I'm a copyright attorney."  :roll:

 

Regardless of whether it's illegal or not (which it is unless you have the license) don't be the dickweed that uses someone else's work without permission. If you took the time to develop and promote a character and someone else took it and was selling it you wouldn't be happy. It isn't honest.

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