cakelove2105 Posted 11 Nov 2013 , 6:20pm
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Hello,

 

Just one question, when you guys make butterfly or flower decorations , do you add tylose to your fondant? I want to make a butterfly-decorated cake for my mom's BD and I dont want to screw it. I want the butterflies to look like they are landing on the cake, I dont want to just stick them to the cake. Also, do you have any suggestions for me on how I can do my decoration?

 

Thanks a lot.

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-K8memphis Posted 11 Nov 2013 , 6:58pm
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if i am making ruffly flowers like roses i'd actually use gum paste but this is also the time when i might use tylose + fondant--

 

if i make bows or butterflies or plaques or one cut blossom type flowers, individual rose petals to scatter around i use cornstarch + fondant because it dries crispy and it's readily available and it's cheaper than tylose--

 

for butterflies i fold muffin liners in half to hold their little wings whichever way i want them to fly and stick those in the muffin pans to dry--

 

i use flower stamens for the antennae--i stick them on with melted while chocolate--or whatever color--

 

sounds like a sweet project for your mom--fly high with it!

mmmmmmmmcake1954 Posted 11 Nov 2013 , 7:48pm
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AI usually make butterflies from gumpaste, but have also cut them out of rice paper which I think makes them look more delicate, I have also used a butterfly punch to cut them out and made 3D ones out of patterned hobby paper and stuck them onto the cake with royal icing, but these would need to be removed before cutting and serving the cake.you can take a look at my pics. HTH :)

cakelove2105 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 5:17am
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Originally Posted by mmmmmmmmcake1954 

I usually make butterflies from gumpaste, but have also cut them out of rice paper which I think makes them look more delicate, I have also used a butterfly punch to cut them out and made 3D ones out of patterned hobby paper and stuck them onto the cake with royal icing, but these would need to be removed before cutting and serving the cake.you can take a look at my pics. HTH icon_smile.gif

Hi, Thanks for your comment. Can you provide the link of the pic you are referring to ?

cakelove2105 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 5:18am
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Originally Posted by -K8memphis 
 

if i am making ruffly flowers like roses i'd actually use gum paste but this is also the time when i might use tylose + fondant--

 

if i make bows or butterflies or plaques or one cut blossom type flowers, individual rose petals to scatter around i use cornstarch + fondant because it dries crispy and it's readily available and it's cheaper than tylose--

 

for butterflies i fold muffin liners in half to hold their little wings whichever way i want them to fly and stick those in the muffin pans to dry--

 

i use flower stamens for the antennae--i stick them on with melted while chocolate--or whatever color--

 

sounds like a sweet project for your mom--fly high with it!

Thanks K8memphis

doramoreno62 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 11:05am
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Originally Posted by -K8memphis 
 

 

if i make bows or butterflies or plaques or one cut blossom type flowers, individual rose petals to scatter around i use cornstarch + fondant because it dries crispy and it's readily available and it's cheaper than tylose--

 

WhaWhaWhat??? Fondant+cornstarch = crispy?? I've never known this. K8memphis, whats the ratio of fondant to cornstarch?

mmmmmmmmcake1954 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 12:21pm
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Here you go:   

 

Made with love for my mum's 80th birthday, bottom tier is vanilla and strawberry cake with strawberry buttercream, top tier is peach cake with peach buttercream (big issue with bulging but never mind)  handmade gumpaste roses, hydrangeas, filler flowers on top, paper butterflies glued on with a bit of royal icing and on the bottom tier I hand painted lilacs.

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I made two of these lemon cakes, soaked in lemon syrup and lemon glaze icing, decorated with 50/50 gumpaste/ fondant decorations.  One for a family get together today, and the other for my neighbour whose husband had recently passed away.

 

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-K8memphis Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 1:42pm
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Originally Posted by doramoreno62 
 

WhaWhaWhat??? Fondant+cornstarch = crispy?? I've never known this. K8memphis, whats the ratio of fondant to cornstarch?

 

 

maybe like 1/4 cup to a pound or several tablespoons to a handful of fondant--you can use several several times more than tylose--just play with it--knead it in real good of course--i once had less than an hour before presentation before the clients queued up for cake to make an old fashioned nurse's hat with the wings--and i took a ton of cornstarch and kneaded it in some fondant, made the hat and it stood fine--there was zero time to let it dry and it stayed perfectly :grin: 

 

just play with it a bit to get the feel for it--lot cheaper than tylose--

 

and i mean tylose is great for what it does but it's not necessary all the time for me, for most projects like i said--

 

-K8memphis Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 1:46pm
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and i put raspberry flavor oil in mine--for like blossoms or scattered rose petals or shamrocks or whatever and it's great candy--this is how a lot of americans like their fondant best imo--like candy

cakelove2105 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 5:21pm
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Originally Posted by mmmmmmmmcake1954 
 

Here you go:   

 

Made with love for my mum's 80th birthday, bottom tier is vanilla and strawberry cake with strawberry buttercream, top tier is peach cake with peach buttercream (big issue with bulging but never mind)  handmade gumpaste roses, hydrangeas, filler flowers on top, paper butterflies glued on with a bit of royal icing and on the bottom tier I hand painted lilacs.

400

 

I made two of these lemon cakes, soaked in lemon syrup and lemon glaze icing, decorated with 50/50 gumpaste/ fondant decorations.  One for a family get together today, and the other for my neighbour whose husband had recently passed away.

 

400

Beautiful work. That's how I whant my to look like. I have butterfly cutters, do they work for this? did you paint the with airbrush? Excuse my ignorance, i'm a rocky lol

cakelove2105 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 5:24pm

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Originally Posted by -K8memphis 
 

 

 

maybe like 1/4 cup to a pound or several tablespoons to a handful of fondant--you can use several several times more than tylose--just play with it--knead it in real good of course--i once had less than an hour before presentation before the clients queued up for cake to make an old fashioned nurse's hat with the wings--and i took a ton of cornstarch and kneaded it in some fondant, made the hat and it stood fine--there was zero time to let it dry and it stayed perfectly :grin: 

 

just play with it a bit to get the feel for it--lot cheaper than tylose--

 

and i mean tylose is great for what it does but it's not necessary all the time for me, for most projects like i said--

 

Should we add the cornstarch when we are making the MMF or after when we are kneading it?

-K8memphis Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 5:28pm

i add it after it is made--i usually use non-marshmallow fondant--but i have used it with the home made marshmallow fondant as well--and as i recall--it took quite a while for my marshmallow fondant to get firm--

 

experiment with it i guess

mmmmmmmmcake1954 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 6:57pm

AThank you cakelove2105' in the top phone of the 2 tier cake - these butterflies I cut with a butterfly punch, each one is 2 different patterned craft paper with the top butterfly folded a little to give a 3d look they are glued together and onto the cake with royal icing. In the next two cakes I used plain white rice paper (although you buy this in different colours), I cut the wings out freehand, piped some royal icing bodies to stick the wings into, before attaching them I coloured them with petal dust and food colouring pens. On the cake in the last photo I used butterfly cutters to cut out gumpaste butterflies, colouring them with petal dust. If you google "how to make gumpaste/flower paste butterflies" I am sure you will get some food tutorials. Good luck with your cake.:)

mmmmmmmmcake1954 Posted 13 Nov 2013 , 6:59pm

ASorry about the typos:)

doramoreno62 Posted 14 Nov 2013 , 4:48am

Thanks K8memphis, you rock!

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