jason_kraft Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 5:11pm
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AJust saw this article...the FDA has announced a new ruling stating that partially hydrogenated oil will no longer be "generally recognized as safe". The impact to cake decorating is that shortening with trans fats would no longer be able to be sold in the US. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/08/health/fda-trans-fats.html?_r=0

Here is an article to help make the transition to zero-trans-fat baking: http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/FacetheFatsRestaurantResources/Baking-without-Trans-Fat_UCM_303915_Article.jsp

And here is a list of zero-trans-fat high ratio shortening products: http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/GettingHealthy/FatsAndOils/FacetheFatsRestaurantResources/Cake-and-Icing-Shortenings-For-Restaurants-and-Bakeries_UCM_304610_Article.jsp

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ddaigle Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 5:28pm
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Noooooooooooooooo......I need my fatty shortening!!!!!!!!!!!!

Norasmom Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 6:29pm
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As long as I can still use butter and Crisco…

 

I think preventing 20,000 heart attacks per year is a good thing, but it's too bad people don't just eat trans fats in moderation in the first place, thus eliminating the need to stop using them altogether.  Stating the obvious, that wouldn't happen…

jason_kraft Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 7:54pm
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I think preventing 20,000 heart attacks per year is a good thing, but it's too bad people don't just eat trans fats in moderation in the first place, thus eliminating the need to stop using them altogether.  Stating the obvious, that wouldn't happen…

Normally I would agree, but based on studies the only safe amount of trans fats is zero, so even consuming trans fats in moderation is harmful.

Since zero-trans-fat shortening often contains a small amount of trans fat (under 0.5g can be listed as zero on the label) it's not clear if they will need to be reformulated again to remove it completely.

MBalaska Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 8:18pm
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remember how regular coffee was going to kill you, then it was healthy, then it was bad, now it's got antioxidants and it's great.

remember how vitamins were good, then bad, then it was proven healthy.

remember how chocolate was going to kill you, then it was healthy.

 

There may be a  lucrative business in illegal import of Trans-Fat Shortening, a Cake Cartel.....

Norasmom Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 8:38pm
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I have read that food coloring is the next thing that they are working on banning, but there are some great natural alternatives, thankfully.

liz at sugar Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 8:43pm
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They just teased this story on Fox news with the tag "how will all your favorite foods taste when they take the good stuff out - frozen bread doughs and cookie doughs, frozen pizzas, etc."

 

They started with the list of affected foods and I really wasn't paying attention because I was reading this thread!

 

Glad I only use butter right now. :)

 

Liz

embersmom Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 9:10pm
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Following Jason's last link on the products that have 0% trans-fat, I noticed that all of them contain palm oil, which is probably one of the worst types of fat out there.  It's very high in cholesterol. Both my parents and their siblings all had hereditary heart issues; as a result, they read labels like hawks way before label-reading became a national pastime.

 

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/05/090502084827.htm

 

(I realize the link is from 2009 but palm oil itself hasn't changed)

jason_kraft Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 9:57pm
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APalm oil is high in saturated fat, but I haven't found any zero-trans-fat high ratio shortening product without palm oil (Cargill made one with canola oil but it is no longer available). The recommendation for saturated fat is to limit it to less than 7% of your total daily calories, while the recommendation for trans fat is none at all.

http://healthyliving.msn.com/diseases/cholesterol/trans-fats-versus-saturated-fats-1

Assume a recipe for 3 cups of frosting calls for 1/2 cup of palm oil shortening, 1/2 cup of shortening is 900 calories, and the shortening is 50% saturated fat (typical for palm oil). The entire recipe contains 450 calories from saturated fat. If you use 1/4 cup of frosting on a cupcake, you are getting 37 calories from saturated fat. The saturated fat limit (7%) for a 2000 calorie diet is 140 calories, so a single cupcake would count for about 1/4 of your daily limit of saturated fat.

A canola-based shortening would be closer to 25% saturated fat, so the cupcake with frosting made from the healthier shortening would count for 1/8 of your saturated fat limit.

Butter is 50% saturated fat so the numbers would be similar to the palm oil shortening.

hbquikcomjamesl Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 11:46pm

Actually, palm oil, being a plant product, contains no cholesterol, since cholesterol only occurs naturally in animals.

 

The strangest thing I see, with regard to fats, is that decades ago, coconut grease (I refuse to call a solid fat an "oil") was considered one of the worst substances you could ingest that wasn't overtly toxic; now, I see it touted as a health food.

 

At any rate, it is also my understanding that there are a number of naturally occurring trans fats that aren't nearly as bad for you as the ones that don't occur in nature.

 

And of course, this thread reminds me of a filthy locker room joke in which the punchline is "Crisco is SHORTENING!"

 

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As to banning food colorings, well, several of them have been banned for decades. Orange No. 1 was banned before most of us were born. Red No. 2 in the 1970s.

jason_kraft Posted 7 Nov 2013 , 11:56pm

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Actually, palm oil, being a plant product, contains no cholesterol, since cholesterol only occurs naturally in animals.

Food that itself contains cholesterol doesn't have much of an impact on your blood cholesterol levels, saturated fat has a far greater impact by increasing LDL (bad cholesterol). Trans fat both increases LDL and lowers HDL (good cholesterol).

costumeczar Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 12:10am

ACrisco switched to no trans fat a couple of years ago.

hbquikcomjamesl Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 12:39am

I have the good fortune to have cholesterol levels that are both rather on the low side, and strongly balanced in my favor. I'm convinced that the fact that Cheerios are my favorite cereal, and that my usual breakfast when traveling is oatmeal, has something to do with it.

 

And quite right, our bodies typically manufacture more cholesterol  than they absorb from food.

MBalaska Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:10am

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Crisco switched to no trans fat a couple of years ago.

no Cake Cartel for me..........so I'm not going to get my cigarette speed boat and Miami mansion?  dang it.

How will the High Ratio Commercial Shortening be affected I wonder. ( if affected at all )

jason_kraft Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:17am

AEvery major manufacturer of high ratio shortening has been selling a zero-trans-fat version for a few years now, especially since California banned trans fats in restaurants and bakeries a few years ago. Chances are all trans-fat versions of high ratio shortening will be phased out completely, and everyone will just switch to the ZTF versions.

After we switched to ZTF (Sweetex Z) the biggest difference was that our BC was more temperature sensitive, other than that it was pretty much the same. YMMV depending on the recipe.

Norasmom Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:19am

Palm kernel oil is also decimating animal habitats in third-world countries, where most of it is manufactured.  Developers are chopping down rain forests to create palm plantations.  There are little girl scouts out there who won't sell the cookies because of this.  I have mixed feelings on this issue, though. 

kikiandkyle Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:36am

AI would love to see artificial colors, flavors and preservatives banned like they are in Europe, it's not like food doesn't still taste or look good there and the manufacturers are all still making plenty of money.

Sure it should be down to people to make the right decision for themselves but the reality is a lot of people just don't, and we all pay the price in the end.

IowaBaker Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:45am
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I would love to see artificial colors, flavors and preservatives banned like they are in Europe, it's not like food doesn't still taste or look good there and the manufacturers are all still making plenty of money.

Sure it should be down to people to make the right decision for themselves but the reality is a lot of people just don't, and we all pay the price in the end.


Natural doesn't mean I want to eat it, either. Carmine and cochineal, made from ground cochineal beetles, are used in the US as red food coloring and may legally be labeled "natural coloring" without saying what. It can be a problem for people with insect allergies. Castoreum, which is vanilla scented and flavored, can be listed simply as "natural flavoring". It comes from a beaver's butt. http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/10/02/beaver-butts-emit-goo-used-in-vanilla-flavored-foods/ I'd like more specific labeling, please.

kikiandkyle Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:49am

AYou lost me at Fox News.

Apti Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:53am

cake cartel......beaver's butt......fox news.......

 

I LOVE this forum!

IowaBaker Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 1:58am

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You lost me at Fox News.


Because of the source? http://www.health.com/health/gallery/0,,20588763_11,00.html or http://www.businessinsider.com/castoreum-used-in-food-and-perfume-2013-10 . It's not Faux News.

kikiandkyle Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 2:07am

AI have a brother who's seriously allergic to some of the chemicals used to color virtually everything in this country, even Tums. People are allergic to all kinds of stuff, that doesn't mean we should replace all of nature with chemicals.

costumeczar Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 2:29am

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. It's not Faux News.

Unless they're quoting satire like the Onion like the stories are real, hahahaha!

http://mobile.rawstory.com/therawstory/#!/entry/fox-hosts-fall-for-hoax-obama-personally-funding-muslim-museum,5251d18eda27f5d9d02eafd1

http://www.businessinsider.com/apparently-fox-nation-doesnt-know-the-onion-is-fake-news-2010-11

cakeballer85 Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 5:07am

AI just about wet myself this morning when I heard the tagline on the news...I just switched to Sweetex....guess I will head to my supplier and hoard up like a thief in the night :/

JWinslow Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 5:58am

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You lost me at Fox News.


LOL!!  ;-D

morganchampagne Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 7:20am

AJust when I was thinking about adding some hi ratio to my buttercream. I guess this is a sign lol

MBalaska Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 9:09am

I used up the last of my High Ratio Shortening, so can't check the label to see if it still has the FattyFatFatLardyLard stuff that the Washintonian Federalies are going to ban.

embersmom Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 9:20am

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Originally Posted by jason_kraft 

After we switched to ZTF (Sweetex Z) the biggest difference was that our BC was more temperature sensitive, other than that it was pretty much the same. YMMV depending on the recipe.

The icing we use at work went ZTF a couple of years ago, and there is a definite difference in its texture, depending on the season.  During the colder months we have to store it closer to the oven because it gets too hard and crumbly otherwise.  Conversely, during the warmer months it can be quite gloppy.  \\

cakefat Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 10:42am
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You lost me at Fox News.

 

 

hahahahaa! 

 

We call it the comedy channel around here.

cakefat Posted 8 Nov 2013 , 10:44am

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Originally Posted by kikiandkyle 

I would love to see artificial colors, flavors and preservatives banned like they are in Europe, it's not like food doesn't still taste or look good there and the manufacturers are all still making plenty of money.

Sure it should be down to people to make the right decision for themselves but the reality is a lot of people just don't, and we all pay the price in the end.

 

Agree with everything here

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