AHTCakes Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 3:07pm
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I recently posted a picture on my Facebook page of some cupcakes I did this week and used Disco Dust in making them. I always try to answer anyone that posts on my page so that it makes me more personal and keep everyone engaged, but this random person says something along the lines of "Those are so pretty, where can I buy the glitter"? Umm yeah, cause I WANT to share my secrets with you so you don't have to order them from me?? Now I don't know what to say.... :-/ 

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-K8memphis Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 3:11pm
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i mean disco dust is not exactly a secret and not to mention it is not edible either--

 

i would just answer vaguely--"most any cake decorating store carries it"

 

or delete the comment so you don't have to reveal anything

BrandisBaked Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 3:29pm
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ADisco dust isn't a trade secret. :???:

I'd help and answer the question. How is it any different than people asking here? It's just a different forum.

AHTCakes Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 3:47pm
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How is it different? Because essentially she is asking "where can I buy that so I don't have to pay you to do it", or "can I have your recipe so I don't have to pay you to do it". I would never think of asking on Walmarts facebook page where they purchase their products and expect them to tell me so I can save myself a couple bucks. Even if it isn't a "secret" so to speak. 

 

I don't think this person meant any harm...it was just a poorly thought out question. And now I have to find a political answer.

 

I don't run a forum for tips and trick, I'm running a business. 

AZCouture Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 3:52pm
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AThat's just silly, I'm sorry. And what may happen is someone else just answers it anyways.

BrandisBaked Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 3:59pm
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ABut she's not asking for a recipe. I think you're overthinking it.

scrumdiddlycakes Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 4:08pm
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AShe's asking for information on an obviously pre-made decoration. I see nothing wrong or out of line about that.

MimiFix Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 4:13pm
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... this random person says something along the lines of "Those are so pretty, where can I buy the glitter"?

 

You can respond: Thank you so much for your interest. The cupcakes can be ordered in (whatever colors are available). 

 

If she doesn't take the hint and posts again about where to purchase the glitter, just delete her comment.

cakealicious7 Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 4:20pm
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How is it different? Because essentially she is asking "where can I buy that so I don't have to pay you to do it", or "can I have your recipe so I don't have to pay you to do it". I would never think of asking on Walmarts facebook page where they purchase their products and expect them to tell me so I can save myself a couple bucks. Even if it isn't a "secret" so to speak. 

I don't think this person meant any harm...it was just a poorly thought out question. And now I have to find a political answer.

I don't run a forum for tips and trick, I'm running a business. 

There are plenty of people here that also run successful businesses, but that doesn't stop them answering other peoples questions. And it doesn't necessarily mean that she wants to know so she doesn't have to pay you, it could be that she just wants to bake at home as a hobby- I bake at home ( very nice cakes I might add ;-) ) but that doesn't stop me from buying from elsewhere. I agree that you're overthinking it.

jenmat Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 4:40pm

While I completely understand where you are coming from, a few points:

1. This person may be a baker and is following you. You never know where new relationships can come from. 

2. If they are asking you where to get supplies, it is very clear that even if you don't answer, they were not going to be your customer.

3. BUT if you answer and are helpful, maybe this DIY person will remember you the next time they realize they need a "more important" cake or when in a conversation with a friend looking for a "wow" cake. This has happened to me several times. A person has emailed with questions or calls and I answer nicely and then 2 months down the road I realized they've sent me customers because of that encounter. 

4. Disco Dust is not a trade secret and not a recipe. Is is also not edible. (but that's not really relevant in this discussion.)

AZCouture Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 5:23pm

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While I completely understand where you are coming from, a few points: 1. This person may be a baker and is following you. You never know where new relationships can come from.  2. If they are asking you where to get supplies, it is very clear that even if you don't answer, they were not going to be your customer. 3. BUT if you answer and are helpful, maybe this DIY person will remember you the next time they realize they need a "more important" cake or when in a conversation with a friend looking for a "wow" cake. This has happened to me several times. A person has emailed with questions or calls and I answer nicely and then 2 months down the road I realized they've sent me customers because of that encounter.  4. Disco Dust is not a trade secret and not a recipe. Is is also not edible. (but that's not really relevant in this discussion.)

Very well said.

Godot Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 5:33pm

AWow, someone sure needs a reality check.

liz at sugar Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 5:50pm

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Originally Posted by MimiFix 
 

 

You can respond: Thank you so much for your interest. The cupcakes can be ordered in (whatever colors are available). 

 

If she doesn't take the hint and posts again about where to purchase the glitter, just delete her comment.

 

I agree with MimiFix.  A baker's Facebook page isn't necessarily the same as Cake Central - she is there to promote her business, not share tips and techniques.

 

I don't think it being "too full of yourself" to want to protect the business you have built, whether it is regarding Disco Dust or stacking a 4 tier cake.

 

But I also would not use Disco Dust on an edible product, unless it is on a topper meant for removal. :)  You could also just sell a small amount of it to the asker at a premium - you don't have to reveal your source, and she still gets what she wants.

 

Liz

JWinslow Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 7:39pm

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Originally Posted by jenmat 
 

While I completely understand where you are coming from, a few points:

1. This person may be a baker and is following you. You never know where new relationships can come from. 

2. If they are asking you where to get supplies, it is very clear that even if you don't answer, they were not going to be your customer.

3. BUT if you answer and are helpful, maybe this DIY person will remember you the next time they realize they need a "more important" cake or when in a conversation with a friend looking for a "wow" cake. This has happened to me several times. A person has emailed with questions or calls and I answer nicely and then 2 months down the road I realized they've sent me customers because of that encounter. 

4. Disco Dust is not a trade secret and not a recipe. Is is also not edible. (but that's not really relevant in this discussion.)


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CakeChemistry Posted 12 Oct 2013 , 9:00pm

AYup agree with majority. Private message her the answer to her question. Disco dust doesn't make a great looking cake, it make a great looking cake sparkle. Therefore, if she is making her own chances are they won't be as good as a professional. Also, anyone that does this as a hobby or business knows about disco dust/lustre/ where to get stuff from etc. she is no threat. Also, if she is asking where to buy stuff she prob has little intention of placing an order. I would never buy a cake from the decorator in my local shop (cause I make my own) but I buy all my supplies from her, even though they are dearer than the internet, because she gives great advice. Be nice, it'll benefit you in the long run when she places an order for a cake she can't execute and tries to hide mistakes with disco dust which won't work x x x x x

costumeczar Posted 13 Oct 2013 , 1:03am

I tell people where to get things all the time. I have mostly cake decorators on my facebook page, and even today someone asked what color I'd used on some flowers. I told them and linked to where they could buy it. Who cares? If they asked for a recipe that's a different issue, but disco dust isn't secret, and it shouldn't be on cupcakes anyway unless it's on some type of decoration that can be removed and not eaten.

kikiandkyle Posted 13 Oct 2013 , 1:09am

A"Any cake supply store"

Daisyblue002 Posted 13 Oct 2013 , 1:12am

I often see cool things on Facebook and wonder how they did that - but I don't have the guts to post and ask them. But guaranteed someone else will. You can just respond by saying that 'edible glitter is available from all good cake decorating stores'. At least that way you're still engaging and polite while answering her questions. I've often taken a picture to my cake decorating store and asked how to achieve something I've seen online and they're always happy to help.

AZCouture Posted 13 Oct 2013 , 1:22am

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I tell people where to get things all the time. I have mostly cake decorators on my facebook page, and even today someone asked what color I'd used on some flowers. I told them and linked to where they could buy it. Who cares? If they asked for a recipe that's a different issue, but disco dust isn't secret, and it shouldn't be on cupcakes anyway unless it's on some type of decoration that can be removed and not eaten.

Ditto to all. If you want to be taken seriously around here, just go around and quote Kara on everything, and you'll be a genius, with only a bit of effort.

costumeczar Posted 13 Oct 2013 , 11:45am

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Ditto to all. If you want to be taken seriously around here, just go around and quote Kara on everything, and you'll be a genius, with only a bit of effort.

There's something in the water today. Where should I send the check?

AHTCakes Posted 13 Oct 2013 , 12:55pm

Thank you so much for the well thought out replies! I respectfully think many of your missed my point, but not worth my time debating. 

 

I took the advice of private messaging her. I agree, she would be someone to help out in hopes of developing a relationship. 

 

Thanks!

Paperfishies Posted 13 Oct 2013 , 11:42pm

AMissed what point?

She wasn't asking for a recipe...heck Edna de la Cruz makes YouTube videos with her recipes yet she is still in business.

It's disco dust not a family recipe. Of you're that worried of losing money, order some disco dust and tell her you sell it and mark it up, as a cake supply store would do.

Telling someone what disco dust is will not make or break you.

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Thank you so much for the well thought out replies! I respectfully think many of your missed my point, but not worth my time debating. 

I took the advice of private messaging her. I agree, she would be someone to help out in hopes of developing a relationship. 

Thanks!

cakealicious7 Posted 14 Oct 2013 , 9:59am

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Missed what point?

She wasn't asking for a recipe...heck Edna de la Cruz makes YouTube videos with her recipes yet she is still in business.

It's disco dust not a family recipe. Of you're that worried of losing money, order some disco dust and tell her you sell it and mark it up, as a cake supply store would do.

Telling someone what disco dust is will not make or break you.

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