hislilbaker89 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:06am
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AI have a co worker who is selling her son's( who is eleven) cupcakes he makes. He goes door to door and sells them too. My question is she doing this illegal. We live in ky Hebron. I don't even know the requirements of children selling lemon aide on the side of the road. I told her she should check into it if its illegal. She says its only fifty cents. I'm thinking thats fifty cents uncle Sam doesn't know about and what if someone gets sick. I'm wanting to know what u guys think to reassure that I'm right. Plus I know one day my lil girl will want to have a lemon aide stand. What requirements is there for children and want can us parents do to protect our children when doing that. Ty for responding and reading my question.

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jason_kraft Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:11am
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AIt depends on the laws in your area. Your county health dept will know what type of health permits are required, and city hall should be able to tell you if a permit is necessary for a roadside food stand.

Whether or not the stand is run by a minor is irrelevant, the same laws should apply.

hislilbaker89 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:14am
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AI remember when I was a child u didn't need a permit yo sell lemon aide. My other coworker said that u don't need anything but I.really believe u need a permit BC as a parent they will need to get it to cover for the child. What website would I go to...

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It depends on the laws in your area. Your county health dept will know what type of health permits are required, and city hall should be able to tell you if a permit is necessary for a roadside food stand.

jason_kraft Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:23am
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ABased on a quick google search it looks like the Northern KY Health Dept would be a good starting point on the food safety front: http://www.nkyhealth.org/

And since Hebron is unincorporated, you would talk to someone responsible for permits or planning at the county: http://www.boonecountyky.org

Of course you may also want to ask yourself how important it is to be on good terms with your co-worker before you pursue this.

hislilbaker89 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:32am
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AI'm not going to start anything by telling on her. She has enough enemies at work for that. I just like to know I'm correct in my thinking and that I wasn't telling her false information. Plus I do want to have a lemonaide stand set up for my lil girl next year. I don't like doing anything half ass and take the chance of my butt getting into trouble. I'll check that out low key ty for answering my question and giving me the info.

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Based on a quick google search it looks like the Northern KY Health Dept would be a good starting point on the food safety front: http://www.nkyhealth.org/

And since Hebron is unincorporated, you would talk to someone responsible for permits or planning at the county: http://www.boonecountyky.org

Of course you may also want to ask yourself how important it is to be on good terms with your co-worker before you pursue this.

BrandisBaked Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:33am
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AIf I were you, I'd suggest that the mother look into it, and then keep your nose out of it.

hislilbaker89 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:39am
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AAlready did. She did not listen. I'm staying out of it I would like to know if I was right plus I want to know the regulations for a lemonade stand.

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If I were you, I'd suggest that the mother look into it, and then keep your nose out of it.

scrumdiddlycakes Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:51am
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http://www.nkyhealth.org/

Give them a call and ask, they will be able to give you the appropriate info for your area, better than anyone here probably can.

hislilbaker89 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 12:53am
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AI will ty

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[URL=http://www.nkyhealth.org/]http://www.nkyhealth.org/[/URL] Give them a call and ask, they will be able to give you the appropriate info for your area, better than anyone here probably can.

Nickithebaker Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 3:30am

I'm curious why you would care if a little kid is going around selling cupcakes door to door.  When I was 5 I had a KoolAid stand and also sold my neighbors rocks that I colored.  They bought my rocks and KoolAid.   People today over think everything.  There was a news article last year about a child that got sued for selling lemon aid. 

 

If the kid has a trailer and is selling hot dogs and hamburgers at the county fair that might be another story.  

Annabakescakes Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 4:18am

I would call Ted Talley, he is the head honcho at the NKY health department. Or give me the info of the lady and I will call. Hebron is my back yard and I spent $17,000 and 7 years or planning to do this right, and my cupcakes start at $2 each. I don't need some 11 year old cutie pie underselling me! I am not that cute anymore, lol!

hislilbaker89 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 8:44am

AI don't care about him doing it. I care when she brings them to work and charges ppl for them when here I am turning down business and trying to do the right thing and either get a business license or go and work with someone. She let's them sit out all day in ninety and higher weather and still sells them. Her doing this got me thinking of all the legalities of a lemonade stand BC I think my daughter would like to do that when she is a little older and it can teach her about money and I want to do this with her and I'm not wanting to get sued. I had a lemonade stand when I was younger and times have changed ppl get a little too sue happy.

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I'm curious why you would care if a little kid is going around selling cupcakes door to door.  When I was 5 I had a KoolAid stand and also sold my neighbors rocks that I colored.  They bought my rocks and KoolAid.   People today over think everything.  There was a news article last year about a child that got sued for selling lemon aid. 

If the kid has a trailer and is selling hot dogs and hamburgers at the county fair that might be another story.  

hislilbaker89 Posted 17 Sep 2013 , 8:47am

AU crack me up. She has a lot of enemies at work they can call on her.

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I would call Ted Talley, he is the head honcho at the NKY health department. Or give me the info of the lady and I will call. Hebron is my back yard and I spent $17,000 and 7 years or planning to do this right, and my cupcakes start at $2 each. I don't need some 11 year old cutie pie underselling me! I am not that cute anymore, lol!

shannycakers Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 4:30pm

leave it alone.. let the child bake and make a few dollars. He will get tired of baking very soon anyway..and the mother will get tired of bringing them to work. Some places dont consider it a business unless you make X amount of profit per year. Doubful this child is going to make that much for tax purposes, lol.

 

AND 50 cents is not going to pay for the ingredients so Im sure this is just a life lesson for the child.

 

I cant believe im even responding to this rediculous thread... these he doing, she doing, always get me fired up, lol.

 

And if some lady stopped by and told my child at a lemonaide stand to go get a permit, I would laugh in her face, just sayin.

chaka1 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 4:54pm

I would leave it alone. I agree with the statement someone made that the kid will probably get tired of doing it. I personally don't like buying from lemonade stands either. I'd rather just give them some money and not take the lemonade. I don't know how much the kids make by the time they buy the cups and lemonade mix. I know it's fun for them though. A kid in my neighborhood had a great idea, they sold cold cans of soda for $1.00 a can from a cooler. They had signs that said "ice cold soda, $1.00"  I think people were more interested in buying that because you'd pay more than that from a machine. A 24 pack of cold soda costs about $6 and brings in $24...now that's a profit!!!!

jason_kraft Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 5:25pm

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[COLOR=DAA520][COLOR=DAA520]And if some lady stopped by and told my child at a lemonaide stand to go get a permit, I would laugh in her face, just sayin.[/COLOR]

Agreed, that's why this kind of thing is better left to the health department.

cakeloverbaker Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 5:32pm

I completely agree with you @Nickithebaker that people just over think things these days. I really don't think it's that serious if a little child chooses to sell cupcakes or lemonade or whatever it may be. It's a child for goodness sake and I don't see how it is your concern. The only liability lies with the child's parents. If anyone does get sick then they can take that up with the child's parents. It's not your concern. Why should any laws pertain to a child simply attempting to be business minded and partake in a childhood past time of many American children years before them who had lemonade stands?

BrandisBaked Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 5:32pm

AI can't believe anyone would advocate turning in a child for baking cupcakes (or selling lemonade). Wow.

I used to bake, decorate and package cookies for sale and my children would take them around the neighborhood and get to keep all the proceeds. Granted, I was licensed to bake and sell - but I'm sure there was some rule they were breaking by going door to door (soliciting? reselling? I don't know...) Glad to know none of our neighbors thought that way.

jason_kraft Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 5:36pm

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Why should any laws pertain to a child simply attempting to be business minded and partake in a childhood past time of many American children years before them who had lemonade stands?

Are you saying that children should be exempt from following the law?

Being "turned in" (which would involve simply being asked to close down until the necessary permits (if any) have been acquired) could be a teachable moment...if you want to run a legitimate business, you have to follow the rules.

kikiandkyle Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 5:36pm

AI don't even like eating things my own kid has made, never mind someone else's.

I understand your position that you're not selling at work because you want to do things right and they're just ignoring all of that, but tbh you don't want to be selling your own cakes and cupcakes at work anyway, it's a recipe for disaster (no pun intended!).

If you work in a professional setting eventually the management are going to put a stop to her little side business, or everyone is going to start bringing in 'stuff their kid made'. Just let it come to an end by itself, because it will. Meanwhile your reputation remains intact amongst both your colleagues and your bosses.

cakeloverbaker Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 5:43pm

Exactly! @BrandisBaked. This thread is actually ridiculous. Somewhat comical even. Let the child sell his/her cupcakes in peace. No one is being forced to purchase the cupcakes or eat the cupcakes. It's a great financial teaching source for a child and I'm sure the child has fun and is learning at the same time. I too would laugh in anyone's face who comes to my child's lemonade stand asking to see a permit. 

cakealicious7 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 6:08pm

AAgree with brandisbaked and cakeloverbaker. With so much going on in the world today your concern is a child selling lemonade/cupcakes?!?

hislilbaker89 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 8:32pm

AOK apparently u didn't read the whole thread. I don't care about the child. It is the fact the woman is selling them at work in hot weather and what right does she have to do that. Also I stated several times that I wouldn't start anything by calling the health department on her BC I don't want the drama. I did tell the lady she was doing that illegally but she didn't care. So I Don't care!!!! I just asked a question BC I wanted to know if I was giving out the correct information by saying it was illegally. The lemonade stand was about my daughter BC I am moving to ky and wanted to know there rules about it. If u are going to post a response at least read it through.

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Agree with brandisbaked and cakeloverbaker. With so much going on in the world today your concern is a child selling lemonade/cupcakes?!?

hislilbaker89 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 8:33pm

ATy for the advice. Its ridiculous that all my co workers sell crap at work. Its a freaking car parts factory not a sales store. Eventually management will stop it.

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I don't even like eating things my own kid has made, never mind someone else's.

I understand your position that you're not selling at work because you want to do things right and they're just ignoring all of that, but tbh you don't want to be selling your own cakes and cupcakes at work anyway, it's a recipe for disaster (no pun intended!).

If you work in a professional setting eventually the management are going to put a stop to her little side business, or everyone is going to start bringing in 'stuff their kid made'. Just let it come to an end by itself, because it will. Meanwhile your reputation remains intact amongst both your colleagues and your bosses.

cakealicious7 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 8:46pm

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OK apparently u didn't read the whole thread. I don't care about the child. It is the fact the woman is selling them at work in hot weather and what right does she have to do that. Also I stated several times that I wouldn't start anything by calling the health department on her BC I don't want the drama. I did tell the lady she was doing that illegally but she didn't care. So I Don't care!!!! I just asked a question BC I wanted to know if I was giving out the correct information by saying it was illegally. The lemonade stand was about my daughter BC I am moving to ky and wanted to know there rules about it. If u are going to post a response at least read it through.

FYI I did read the whole post. You just stated that you didnt care whether the woman was concerned if she was doing this illegally or not, why then include that in your post? If you didn't care then you dont need to know whether you are right or wrong in your advice to her, if your question was about the rules and regulations of the lemonaide stand then that should have been your primary focus.

jason_kraft Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 8:50pm

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FYI I did read the whole post. You just stated that you didnt care whether the woman was concerned if she was doing this illegally or not, why then include that in your post? If you didn't care then you dont need to know whether you are right or wrong in your advice to her, if your question was about the rules and regulations of the lemonaide stand then that should have been your primary focus.

OP said "I just like to know I'm correct in my thinking and that I wasn't telling her false information." Personally I think that attitude is more productive than "you don't need to know whether your advice was right or wrong".

hislilbaker89 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 8:58pm

AYour right I should of included more in my post like the fact the woman is nasty that I was being nice to her by telling her she was in the wrong BC she has a lot of plk that hate her at work. I personally don't like giving out wrong advice so I was checking with u guys on here BC a lot of women at my work would tell on her. I was trying to help her. This post just got a little out of hand. I'm by the rules type person so I was asking also about a lemonade stand. I would never go up to some stranger and tell them they have to have a permit or anything like that. My neighbors right now would not even hesitate to call the cops on someone over a lemonade or a yard sale so I was asking about that.

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FYI I did read the whole post. You just stated that you didnt care whether the woman was concerned if she was doing this illegally or not, why then include that in your post? If you didn't care then you dont need to know whether you are right or wrong in your advice to her, if your question was about the rules and regulations of the lemonaide stand then that should have been your primary focus.

cakealicious7 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 9:02pm

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Your right I should of included more in my post like the fact the woman is nasty that I was being nice to her by telling her she was in the wrong BC she has a lot of plk that hate her at work. I personally don't like giving out wrong advice so I was checking with u guys on here BC a lot of women at my work would tell on her. I was trying to help her. This post just got a little out of hand. I'm by the rules type person so I was asking also about a lemonade stand. I would never go up to some stranger and tell them they have to have a permit or anything like that. My neighbors right now would not even hesitate to call the cops on someone over a lemonade or a yard sale so I was asking about that.

My apologies if i offended you :-)

cakealicious7 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 9:04pm

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OP said "I just like to know I'm correct in my thinking and that I wasn't telling her false information." Personally I think that attitude is more productive than "you don't need to know whether your advice was right or wrong".

Well then I guess we are going to have to agree to disagree.

hislilbaker89 Posted 18 Sep 2013 , 9:05pm

AIts OK stuff likes this happens when ur online. U don't know me personally and u can only take what I write and everyone views it different.

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My apologies if i offended you :-)

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