shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 2:52am
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I do cakes for friends & family, and sometimes friends of friends through word of mouth. I have never charged for a cake but this year I have accepted reimbursement for materials, tips, and several trading of services. A woman who I have become friendly with has received several of my cakes. She is a hairdresser who I know likes to bake, is a " cake fan", but has no real talent in that department so she gets her cakes from me. She will usually do a cut, color/highlight for me in an exchange for an average sized cake, and I bring my kids in her salon and she cuts their hair for no charge also. So the past few cakes she has received from me have been for " someone else", her client, her friend, etc. While I appreciate the referral, I just feel like something weird is going on.

  I have never been able to make contact with any of these cake customers and all details of the cake design has gone thru this woman. I would think these people would at least want to speak to me or email me since I am the cake designer. Did I mention that this woman ALWAYS picks up the cake from me and then delivers it to the third party? This past weekend I made an awesome 3 tiered Wrestling cake for a friend of hers and I urged her to let me help with delivery/setup so that if any damage occurred I could be there to fix it. She insisted on delivering a 3 tiered cake herself. hmm. At first I assumed she was giving these cakes to her loved ones as a gift but now I am thinking she is either A) trying to pass these cakes off as her creations( remember she is kind of a wannabe baker) or B) charging $$ for the cakes and then giving me a $100 haircut & color in exchange. I hope it's not B)....that would be really dirty because she could be charging up to $200 each cake.

    So my question is this: Should I care what she does with the cakes after they leave me? I am not a business so I don't think any foolery on her part would hurt me in that way. Would you all get bent out of shape over this? I guess it does bother me a little or I wouldn't be writing this, but I would really value advise from you all. I would also like to add that I work full time in a stressful ( emergency) environment, and am raising small children so I tend to " triage" problems in my life and shove little small stuff off my plate in order to deal with the more important stuff. I am not the drama type so I don't want to make a huge deal out of this.Just want to know how you all would deal with this. Thanks

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Annabakescakes Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 3:13am
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AIf you are happy with the arrangement, assuming she is selling your work as her own, leave it alone. If you aren't, then stop doing cakes for her.

What state are you in? Maybe you could start your own cottage food bakery, and get your own clients, and pay cash for those haircuts. And how good is she? If I found someone that could cut my hair the way I like it, and my kids, I would NOT piss her off, lol. I always cut my own hair after I get home from the salon, same with touching up my kids' hair. Good beauticians are harder to find than a good baker.

sixinarow Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 3:39am
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Good beauticians are harder to find than a good baker.

Hahaha, TRUTH. I've gone to the same lady to do my color for the last 13 years, except once. And I ended up with an orange mullet. No joke, it was very, very bad.

Annabakescakes Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 3:45am
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[QUOTE name="Annabakescakes" url="/t/761218/something-fishy-going-on-should-i-care#post_7418271"] Good beauticians are harder to find than a good baker.[/QUOTE] Hahaha, TRUTH. I've gone to the same lady to do my color for the last 13 years, except once. And [B]I ended up with an orange mullet. No joke, it was very, very bad.[/B]

prove it ;-D I wanna see!

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 3:53am
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THANKS Annabakescakes...I am in Oregon and not quite sure what the laws are here regarding home bakeries. I would love to get a license to sell cakes though..but if my state requires a whole separate kitchen then I am SOL! The hairdresser I wrote about is the only one that does my hair the way I like.She really knows color & skin tone and how to get the right shade and highlights. I suppose that's why I always do a cake when she asks.  Its so true, it's hard to find someone who always gets it right! It wouldn't really bother me if she took the credit for my cakes but upcharging would really bug me.  Does anyone else care to opine? If I look the other way on this, am I a guilty of being a " cake whore"?

sixinarow Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:03am
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prove it thumbs_up.gif I wanna see!

No way was I dumb enough to take a picture of it!!! I went the next day to my old beautician, she chopped the mullet off and had to layer short layers all over to try to fix it. She couldn't fix the color right away because she was afraid it would fry my hair, took another 3 months to totally get the orange color out. She still says it was the WORST haircut/color she has ever seen in her career. It was soo bad!!

sixinarow Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:04am
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THANKS Annabakescakes...I am in Oregon and not quite sure what the laws are here regarding home bakeries. I would love to get a license to sell cakes though..but if my state requires a whole separate kitchen then I am SOL! The hairdresser I wrote about is the only one that does my hair the way I like.She really knows color & skin tone and how to get the right shade and highlights. I suppose that's why I always do a cake when she asks.  Its so true, it's hard to find someone who always gets it right! It wouldn't really bother me if she took the credit for my cakes but upcharging would really bug me.  Does anyone else care to opine? If I look the other way on this, am I a guilty of being a " cake whore"?

In a way, none of us really know what people do with the cakes we sell them. We "think" they all eat them..and that's kind of as far as I want to go with that thought process!! icon_rolleyes.gif

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:17am
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In a way, none of us really know what people do with the cakes we sell them. We "think" they all eat them..and that's kind of as far as I want to go with that thought process!! icon_rolleyes.gif

 

 

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icon_redface.gif LOL!  DOH! I just pictured something really inappropriate..

Lucky6 Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:34am
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A

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THANKS Annabakescakes...I am in Oregon and not quite sure what the laws are here regarding home bakeries. I would love to get a license to sell cakes though..but if my state requires a whole separate kitchen then I am SOL! The hairdresser I wrote about is the only one that does my hair the way I like.She really knows color & skin tone and how to get the right shade and highlights. I suppose that's why I always do a cake when she asks.  Its so true, it's hard to find someone who always gets it right! It wouldn't really bother me if she took the credit for my cakes but upcharging would really bug me.  Does anyone else care to opine? If I look the other way on this, am I a guilty of being a " cake whore"?

I really laughed :grin::grin::grin:at the last two words...

Annabakescakes Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:43am

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THANKS Annabakescakes...I am in Oregon and not quite sure what the laws are here regarding home bakeries. I would love to get a license to sell cakes though..but if my state requires a whole separate kitchen then I am SOL! The hairdresser I wrote about is the only one that does my hair the way I like.She really knows color & skin tone and how to get the right shade and highlights. I suppose that's why I always do a cake when she asks.  Its so true, it's hard to find someone who always gets it right! It wouldn't really bother me if she took the credit for my cakes but upcharging would really bug me.  Does anyone else care to opine?[B] If I look the other way on this, am I a guilty of being a " cake whore"?[/B]

Hey, we do what we gotta do!

http://cottagefoodlaws.com/state-regulations/oregon-cottage-food-law/Oregon has a Cottage Law which allows its citizens to operate a home based bakery or food processing business. For details about small/home food processing contact your local health departments or the state Department of Agriculture.

Baking in a Domestic Kitchen

Domestic kitchen licensing procedures

Oregon Department of Agriculture – Food Safety Division

635 Capitol Street NE Salem, OR 97301-2532 Phone: 503-986-4720 fsd-expert@oda.state.or.us http://oregon.gov/ODA/FSD/docs/pdf/pub_domkit.pdf

Food Safety Division – Domestic Kitchens http://oregon.gov/ODA/FSD/docs/pdf/pub_label_general.pdf

Smckinney07 Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:44am

AI love to barter, just saying it makes me happy :) I have a couple questions...Why are you giving her a cake worth $200 when she's giving you a hairdo for $100? I know you said you've been compensated with other things, that's awesome. You get to do something you obviously enjoy doing, get in the practice, and still get something out of it. You do cakes as favors and for friends and seems like you haven't really been able to feasibly plan a future in it right now, so how do you put a price on them? Do you just charge them your cost for ingredients or do you have some sort of pricing guide/plan that you go by? How often are you making cakes for her, is it a monthly thing, or has she had you make like 20 cakes?

I ask because you said you would rather have her pass of your cakes as hers then have her flip them.

I wouldn't like it one bit BUT I am licensed and have paid the fees, insurance, training, etc. and im working towards expansion. So our situations are quite different at the moment. I still don't think I would like to have someone else claiming my work no matter the situation.

On the other hand, what would be the difference between selling cakes to the manager of my favorite Italian restaraunt and having him put in his display case to sell individual slices to his customers? I do think it would be shady of her to pass off your work as her own, inevitably this will come back to bite her somehow!

Basically, your providing her a service in exchange for her providing you one. If you are happy with this relationship then maintain it, however, the fact you are questioning the arrangement now suggests that something's wrong. Perhaps you need to figure out a trade your more comfortable with, not settling for $100 if your giving her something of greater value. Does that make sence?

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:59am

AThanks Annabakescakes. I am going to look into the laws here in Oregon. I already work 45 hours per week so this wouldnt be a full time venture, however it would be nice to have a legit way to sell my cakes. I appreciate the info!

Annabakescakes Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 5:14am

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[QUOTE name="Annabakescakes" url="/t/761218/something-fishy-going-on-should-i-care#post_7418283"] prove it ;-D I wanna see![/QUOTE] No way was I dumb enough to take a picture of it!!! I went the next day to my old beautician, she chopped the mullet off and had to layer short layers all over to try to fix it. She couldn't fix the color right away because she was afraid it would fry my hair, took another 3 months to totally get the orange color out. She still says it was the WORST haircut/color she has ever seen in her career. It was soo bad!!

Oh, man, I once let this guy cut off all my hair, and it was so jagged I had to get the electric clippers out and shave it all off. I was 17 at the time, and i wish like hell I had a picture! After it grew for about 3 months and was still super short, I let this other guy dye it blond...it was yellow and I looks HORRIBLE! I hid in the bathroom until someone went and got me a brown color from another apartment...turned it green! So then, I put on a ball cap, and a hooded sweatshirt and got a ride to the store where I got a red color, and went and dyed it for the 3rd time in one night! It finally looked decent though, a sort of chestnut brown.

I have been cutting my own hair for 10 years, but got it cut about a month ago, and I had a mullet, sort of. the top layers were chin length, while the bottom layers were all the way down my back... I looked like the little chinese girl from the New Karate Kid, with Jaden Smith. This is the best pic I could find of the little girl. http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTYwNDg2MTk2MV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODc2MjQ1Mw@@._V1._SX640_SY964_.jpg Not a good look on a fat white 33 year old woman.

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 5:22am

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I love to barter, just saying it makes me happy :) I have a couple questions...Why are you giving her a cake worth $200 when she's giving you a hairdo for $100? I know you said you've been compensated with other things, that's awesome. You get to do something you obviously enjoy doing, get in the practice, and still get something out of it. You do cakes as favors and for friends and seems like you haven't really been able to feasibly plan a future in it right now, so how do you put a price on them? Do you just charge them your cost for ingredients or do you have some sort of pricing guide/plan that you go by? How often are you making cakes for her, is it a monthly thing, or has she had you make like 20 cakes?

I ask because you said you would rather have her pass of your cakes as hers then have her flip them.

I wouldn't like it one bit BUT I am licensed and have paid the fees, insurance, training, etc. and im working towards expansion. So our situations are quite different at the moment. I still don't think I would like to have someone else claiming my work no matter the situation.

On the other hand, what would be the difference between selling cakes to the manager of my favorite Italian restaraunt and having him put in his display case to sell individual slices to his customers? I do think it would be shady of her to pass off your work as her own, inevitably this will come back to bite her somehow!

Basically, your providing her a service in exchange for her providing you one. If you are happy with this relationship then maintain it, however, the fact you are questioning the arrangement now suggests that something's wrong. Perhaps you need to figure out a trade your more comfortable with, not settling for $100 if your giving her something of greater value. Does that make sence?

I have made cakes for her that range in value from 85- 200 bucks with the exception of the last one which fed 100 and was worth about $350-$500. Basically she asks for a quote and then gives me services to match that amount. When my hair credit is up she usually calls and texts me for a cake and then sets another appt for me. She is really good about not being a cheap cake snake, she knows the value and how many hours goes into it. For all others, I explain to them that I can't take money but I will accept reimbursement for ingredients and barter for my labor. I had an electrician install 2 chandeliers in my house in exchange for a custom giant cupcake cake for his wife's birthday. When figuring my labor I always use the formula of 15 bucks an hour for non artistic hours..( baking, shopping, washing cake pans, cruising the internet researching and planning a cake) and 25 bucks an hour for the actual decorating/ sugarwork/ gumpaste figures etc. Any cake artist that charges less than that for their time is underestimating their talent.

Annabakescakes Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 5:35am

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I have made cakes for her that range in value from 85- 200 bucks with the exception of the last one which fed 100 and was worth about $350-$500. Basically she asks for a quote and then gives me services to match that amount. When my hair credit is up she usually calls and texts me for a cake and then sets another appt for me. She is really good about not being a cheap cake snake, she knows the value and how many hours goes into it. For all others, I explain to them that I can't take money but I will accept reimbursement for ingredients and barter for my labor. I had an electrician install 2 chandeliers in my house in exchange for a custom giant cupcake cake for his wife's birthday. When figuring my labor I always use the formula of 15 bucks an hour for non artistic hours..( baking, shopping, washing cake pans, cruising the internet researching and planning a cake) and 25 bucks an hour for the actual decorating/ sugarwork/ gumpaste figures etc. Any cake artist that charges less than that for their time is underestimating their talent.

CHEAP CAKE SNAKE! [I]I LOVE IT![/I] It looks like you are charging well for your time, and you get services for it, if it were me, I would not rock the boat! I had a deal like that but it was cheap hair product and expensive, barely worn hand me downs for my daughter. Now she has turned into a cheap cake snake (SO gonna use that forever!) and wants cakes for nothing, and doesn't go to the supply house anymore... I need a mongoose to sic on her (figuratively speaking) .

Smckinney07 Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 6:09am

AI was just curious because you said you gave her a cake for $100, that was really worth $200 and it was three tiers. But it definitely sounds like you know what your doing when it comes to decorating and pricing!

If your happy with your arrangement then keep it going. But if your uncomfortable or curious as to what she's doing with them, next time she wants a tiered cake just insist that you set it up :D insert evil laugh

vgcea Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 1:27pm

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Hey, we do what we gotta do!

http://cottagefoodlaws.com/state-regulations/oregon-cottage-food-law/Oregon has a Cottage Law which allows its citizens to operate a home based bakery or food processing business. For details about small/home food processing contact your local health departments or the state Department of Agriculture.

Baking in a Domestic Kitchen

Domestic kitchen licensing procedures

Oregon Department of Agriculture – Food Safety Division

635 Capitol Street NE Salem, OR 97301-2532 Phone: 503-986-4720 fsd-expert@oda.state.or.us http://oregon.gov/ODA/FSD/docs/pdf/pub_domkit.pdf

Food Safety Division – Domestic Kitchens http://oregon.gov/ODA/FSD/docs/pdf/pub_label_general.pdf

8-O *Gasp* Jason, is that you?!! :twisted:

lunawhisper0013 Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 1:50pm

AJust a thought, you could get a stamp that says "proudly baked and decorated by such-and-such an phone number. Maybe even an email address or Facebook/Twitter info for questions/comments. Then stamp it on the cake board right where the cake would sit and put a clear plastic sticker over it.

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 1:56pm

AAnnabakes... Aren't Cake Snakes the worst?! They come in all variations. Clueless Cathys, Negotiating Nancys, Buyer's Remorse Randys, and my favorite - the Gutterbutt Gayle.. This is the person that has no real income , spends their state check on luxuries like cell phones and nails while their kids are hungry and look like ragamuffins. Meanwhile they want a 3 tiered blinged out zebra print cake for $ 40. And its not even for their kid, but for themselves! The only people I am easy on is the older generation because I honestly think they just aren't used to the idea of edible art. My 75 year old mother in law was so happy that I made them a cake dor their 40th Anniversary party. 3 tiers, square, intricate piping, cascading gumpaste flowers all the way down. She says " oh Suzie this cake is beautiful! I bet you could sell something like this for over $ 50!" Lol and my sweet MIL! :D

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 2:04pm

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Just a thought, you could get a stamp that says "proudly baked and decorated by such-and-such an phone number. Maybe even an email address or Facebook/Twitter info for questions/comments. Then stamp it on the cake board right where the cake would sit and put a clear plastic sticker over it.

That's a really great idea! I already have sticker labels that say " From Suzie's Kitchen" from Etsy but I never thought to have my phone number on there. Thank you:-D

BeesKnees578 Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 2:05pm

I am shocked by those of you that are saying don't rock the boat!??  And confused, too!

 

I thought for sure there would be 100 posts of outrage at the woman ordering the cakes and comments about how insane OP is for doing them for her!  And lots of "how dare she pass her work off as her own"!  Which she may or may not be doing, btw!  She may be giving OP full credit?!  Who knows?  NO ONE, because it wasn't discussed. 

 

I get that she's not a business, but still.  If I found out that someone ordered a cake from me and then possibly re-sold it, there would have to be a tactful convo with the hairdresser...after all, mullets are at stake here.  I hate confrontation, but this would take the proverbial cake!

 

I would excitedly tell the hairdresser that OR has cottage laws that you didn't know about...that you are trying to build up your clientele with the hopes of having a bigger biz, and would like the contact info on the people that she has given OPs cakes to, so that you may introduce yourself and ask for recommendations, and ask that from now on she give you the name of the customer so that you can provide the best customer service to them.  A little DEVIOUS....BUT her reaction will speak VOLUMES as to what's going on!  If she's being legit, you will still get orders...if not, she was passing them off as hers, for sure!

 

Especially if she was making money off of it.  Business or not, we (most of us, I believe) deal with the end customer...we are not wholesalers, are we?  Unless we are selling to a restaurant, of course.

 

Am I the only one bent about this?

 

Maybe it's just different since OH has cottage laws so I do charge full price -- who would re-sell a cake that they've already paid for at retail cost?  No one in their right mind!

sixinarow Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 2:21pm
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I am shocked by those of you that are saying don't rock the boat!??  And confused, too!

 

I thought for sure there would be 100 posts of outrage at the woman ordering the cakes and comments about how insane OP is for doing them for her!  And lots of "how dare she pass her work off as her own"!  Which she may or may not be doing, btw!  She may be giving OP full credit?!  Who knows?  NO ONE, because it wasn't discussed. 

 

I get that she's not a business, but still.  If I found out that someone ordered a cake from me and then possibly re-sold it, there would have to be a tactful convo with the hairdresser...after all, mullets are at stake here.  I hate confrontation, but this would take the proverbial cake!

 

I would excitedly tell the hairdresser that OR has cottage laws that you didn't know about...that you are trying to build up your clientele with the hopes of having a bigger biz, and would like the contact info on the people that she has given OPs cakes to, so that you may introduce yourself and ask for recommendations, and ask that from now on she give you the name of the customer so that you can provide the best customer service to them.  A little DEVIOUS....BUT her reaction will speak VOLUMES as to what's going on!  If she's being legit, you will still get orders...if not, she was passing them off as hers, for sure!

 

Especially if she was making money off of it.  Business or not, we (most of us, I believe) deal with the end customer...we are not wholesalers, are we?  Unless we are selling to a restaurant, of course.

 

Am I the only one bent about this?

 

Maybe it's just different since OH has cottage laws so I do charge full price -- who would re-sell a cake that they've already paid for at retail cost?  No one in their right mind!

I'm not too bent because there are so many "if's" in this situation. If there was concrete proof that she was re-selling them, I wouldn't be too happy about it. But how many of us really know if someone who buys one of our cakes passes it off as their own creation? Not necessarily to re-sell, but to get the oohhs and ahhs at their kids' bday party or whatever? I know a few people who buy cookies from a store, re-arrange them on a plate and claim they made them. They paid for them, I know they can't bake, why do I need to "call them out?" I'm not gonna get upset over something that is a "maybe" situation. Bartering is legal in many states, so the OP may not be doing anything wrong for exchanging services. Too many other real problems to worry about!!icon_biggrin.gif

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 2:22pm

See, THIS is exactly why I posted the question in the first place. In a way, I really didn't care what she was doing with the cakes, but there was also a nagging doubt in my mind if I was being foolish for not caring. I really expected more people on here to talk me out of doing cakes for her, but to be honest I do like the arrangement and was hoping to rationalize letting it continue. My husband thinks it is really shady that all transactions go thru her and that I never get to see where the cakes go.  I think what I will do is look into getting licensed even if it's just for a handful of cakes per year. That way she can still pass customers my way and I can just pay her for my haircut & color with that extra income. I can also give her an incentive for referrals such as for every certain number of cake leads that get booked thru her, she gets a heavy discount on her next cake or even a small freebie. Thanks You Guys!

cakefat Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 3:26pm

I'm assuming you get your highlights every 1.5-2 months? And she gets a cake that many times too? That's a lot of cake. What events are these cakes for? birthdays etc?

 

I bet she's flipping them. But you don't really care, so it's not really an issue, is it? I just hope your hair is looking kick a**..it should be with all those cakes.

 

Great idea about you getting licensed though. 

 

good luck!

jason_kraft Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:10pm

ADon't forget that you need to declare the fair market value of the free services you are getting to the IRS as income on Schedule C.

http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc420.html

shebysuz Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:27pm

AThanks you guys. My tax geek , who is also my nephew advised me the same way you did Jason! I love all you " Numbers guys"!:grin:

ellavanilla Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 4:41pm

here in California, if you are a permitted cottage food operator (or whatever its called), you must have a particular type of permit to sell to a reseller. So if you ever reach that point, please keep that in mind. 

 

my only concern would be liability. if someone gets sick or files a damages claim against the stylist, who is going to get sued? bet your bottom dollar that she points the finger back to you. in that case you need protection. I guess I would ask. if you're ok with the arrangement, then I would lead with that info, but consider your family and what you own...

 

jen

Annabakescakes Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 5:05pm

ASince there is mixed reviews, I vote you show us your hair, and the hair of your children, to see if this is worth it or not ;-) you can post a new thread, and add a survey where people can vote yea or nay... Just kidding. I do want to see you hair, though!

sarahbakestudio Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 5:36pm

Before I even finished reading your post I said to myself, "she is selling the cakes as her own". Obviously, unless you confront her about it you don't know this for sure. If you are bothered by it, then confront her, and if you are OK about the arrangement, then I guess whether she is doing it or not is moot. I do think the actions you described sound shady, and personally I do think she is probably selling you cakes as your own. If this were me it would royally tick me off.

 

Here is the part of this arrangement that really gets me. It is NOT that you are exchanging services. I think that is great, and it sounds like you both have a good "value" set for your service exchanges. It is also NOT that she may be passing your cakes off as her own, because as other posters have said, people buy stuff from the grocery store all the time and say they made it. The problem that I have with it is that if she is selling your cakes and is profiting from it. She didn't "buy" the cake from a store and said she made it. She got the cake for free from you and then turned around and sold it and made money off it. So you may have exchanged a $200 cake for a $200 cut and color, but then she turned around sold it for $200 and made a profit from your work. Plus I just don't care for the shadyness or the fact that if she is selling them she is deceiving the people buying them.

 

So that is my 2 cents on the topic. I do once again want to preference that although this all sounds shady on her part, it is possible she is NOT doing what you suspect and thus you really just need to confront her on it to know for sure. Also, it sounds like you are awesome at baking/decorating and should seriously look into doing a small business with it! Good luck.

 

P.S. I don't understand the hard-to-find hairstylist issues brought up. Both my mother and sister are very talented hairstylists, and I am not just saying that because we're related! ;)

vtanderson Posted 19 Jul 2013 , 5:54pm

If she's saying they're for someone else, tell her you'll at least need to be reimbursed for materials, since there is a lot of work involved in doing these cakes and its taking away from other "business" (what difference will she really know) you have to do.  This will either stop it or tell her you'll have to deliver because you have other things going on.  Make it difficult for her to work you over, and really... your getting a bum deal here, haircuts/colours bottom line costs for her are not even close to what you're shelling out for materials. 

 

Don't make it easy for her and make sure she knows what kind of costs this is for you!  She's taking advantage of you :(

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