Making Imbc Sweeter?

Decorating By morganchampagne Updated 7 Jul 2013 , 3:55am by liz at sugar

morganchampagne Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 5:00pm
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AAlright I've hit a wall. I personally do not care for ABC. But I'm having a bit of a time getting other ppl to love IMBC as much as I do. Alot of ppl have been saying "I LOVE the texture it's just not sweet enough!" So begrudgingly I come asking how to make of sweeter? Can I add more sugar to the egg whites? Add powdered sugar after its completed? Sub out hi ratio shortening? All things I've thought about but I'm wondering if anybody has a proven way?

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liz at sugar Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 5:03pm
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I add more sugar.  Many recipes with 5 egg whites call for about 1 1/4 cups, I go up to 1 3/4 cups.  I put the extra sugar in the syrup.



morganchampagne Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 5:14pm
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ALiz, do you have to adjust the water in the syrup when you add extra?

liz at sugar Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 5:23pm
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I don't, I just let it dissolve a little more before I put it on the heat.  You can add more water, but you would end up with the same percentage of water by the time you got to 250 degrees (or whatever temp you go to).  Here is a handy chart with the different sugar and water percentages for each stage.




Thread Stage
230° F–235° F
sugar concentration: 80%

At this relatively low temperature, there is still a lot of water left in the syrup. When you drop a little of this syrup into cold water to cool, it forms a liquid thread that will not ball up.

Cooking sugar syrup to this stage gives you not candy, but syrup—something you might make to pour over ice cream.   1. Soft-Ball Stage
235° F–240° F
sugar concentration: 85%

At this temperature, sugar syrup dropped into cold water will form a soft, flexible ball. If you remove the ball from water, it will flatten like a pancake after a few moments in your hand.

Fudge, pralines, and fondant are made by cooking ingredients to the soft-ball stage.

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2. Firm-Ball Stage
245° F–250° F
sugar concentration: 87%

Drop a little of this syrup in cold water and it will form a firm ball, one that won’t flatten when you take it out of the water, but remains malleable and will flatten when squeezed.

Caramels are cooked to the firm-ball stage.

3. Hard-Ball Stage
250° F–265° F
sugar concentration: 92%

At this stage, the syrup will form thick, "ropy" threads as it drips from the spoon. The sugar concentration is rather high now, which means there’s less and less moisture in the sugar syrup. A little of this syrup dropped into cold water will form a hard ball. If you take the ball out of the water, it won’t flatten. The ball will be hard, but you can still change its shape by squashing it.

Nougat, marshmallows, gummies, divinity, and rock candy are cooked to the hard-ball stage.

4. Soft-Crack Stage
270° F–290° F
sugar concentration: 95%

As the syrup reached soft-crack stage, the bubbles on top will become smaller, thicker, and closer together. At this stage, the moisture content is low. When you drop a bit of this syrup into cold water, it will solidify into threads that, when removed from the water, are flexible, not brittle. They will bend slightly before breaking.

Saltwater taffy and butterscotch are cooked to the soft-crack stage.

5. Hard-Crack Stage
300° F–310° F
Sugar concentration: 99%

The hard-crack stage is the highest temperature you are likely to see specified in a candy recipe. At these temperatures, there is almost no water left in the syrup. Drop a little of the molten syrup in cold water and it will form hard, brittle threads that break when bent. CAUTION: To avoid burns, allow the syrup to cool in the cold water for a few moments before touching it!

Toffee, nut brittles, and lollipops are all cooked to the hard-crack stage.

morganchampagne Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 5:30pm
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AThank you so much!!!

yortma Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 10:05pm
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SMBC is my go to frosting (essentially the same as IMBC), but sometimes something sweeter is in order.  I mix SMBC 50/50 with ABC. You can adjust the ratio to whatever you like.   The best of both.  I also like the fluffy American buttercream (the recipe is in CC somewhere) as also being a compromise between the two.  HTH.  

morganchampagne Posted 1 Jul 2013 , 6:38pm
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AThank you, Yortma! I've some downtime this week I plan on trying some different variations.

morganchampagne Posted 7 Jul 2013 , 3:30am
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AOk just wanted to come back and Liz's idea totally works!!! It was like the perfect sweetness. So if anybody is curious give it a whirl

liz at sugar Posted 7 Jul 2013 , 3:55am
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Glad it worked for you! 



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