Jenna1588 Posted 27 Jun 2013 , 11:51pm
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Hi,

 

I'm a newbie compared to the majority so wondering if someone can help me a little. My mum is coming up to 50 soon. I want to make her a cake and have a few ideas from looking on eBay. 

 

If I was to get some coloured ready to roll icing and cut some flowers/butterflies etc out and leave it out to dry, would they stay hard or soften back up? I've seen on eBay sugarpaste decorations. It looks like roll out icing but clearly there is much more out there than I know about! I don't want to buy on eBay if I can make it myself.

 

Thanks in advance :)

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smittyditty Posted 28 Jun 2013 , 12:12am
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I'm somewhat a newbie to some of the lingo and I'm not sure what roll out icing is? Might be UK to US thing? However you can buy the Gumpaste at any craft store or store that carries cake stuff. Our walmart carries it. You just need a tiny bit and mix it with your fondant. Then cut what you like and leave it out to dry. Will last years. Just make extras just encase anything gets broke. IF I'm totally off base with what your talking about someone will come along and help you. :)
 

smittyditty Posted 28 Jun 2013 , 12:13am
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Oh and yes it stays hard. Just keep away from moisture.

Jenna1588 Posted 28 Jun 2013 , 12:15am
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Hi SmittyDitty. I'm in the UK, there is A LOT of confusion. Haha. I think I should Google ingredients of both and see if there is any difference.. Could be a good idea! 

 

I don't know of any craft stores or stores that are even dedicated to cake baking! The only one i knew of has just closed down!

 

Thank you though :)

 

I just found this. HELPFUL! :)

kikiandkyle Posted 28 Jun 2013 , 1:41am
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ARoll out icing or Regal ice is fondant, if you have a Lakeland near you they carry some cake items, there's also Hobby craft and you can look in the yellow pages for cake supply stores. They used to be everywhere back when I lived in the UK! You can get gum paste or flower paste there too.

Jenna1588 Posted 28 Jun 2013 , 1:45am
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ASo are you saying that roll out icing won't go hard? I feel thick but its all confusing! Ha. I'll Google for LL and HC. Cheers

maybenot Posted 28 Jun 2013 , 9:45pm
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Sugarpaste will harden, but it will take a long time on its own and the air must be very dry.  Once dry, it will soften quickly in heat and/or humidity or if put in an airtight container.

 

To help the sugarpaste stay hard, you need to add tylose, cmc, gum tex, or gum tragacanth (if using gum trag, knead it into the paste and let the paste sit well wrapped for 24 hrs. before use).

 

Flower paste already has one, or more, of these gums added to it, so it's ready to use and dry properly.

Jenna1588 Posted 28 Jun 2013 , 9:57pm
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I saw a tutorial on YouTube about that. Is this what I need? 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C1000-ultra-fine-TYLO-POWDER-CMC-cake-decorating-icing-**********-gum-trag-sub-/360478153531?var=&hash=item92b200f872

 

Sorry for all the questions, never heard of half the stuff before I came on here, its great!

 

Thank you :)

 

P.S I'm wanting to use this for flowers etc x

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160842913176?var=460091442225&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

sweettooth101 Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 12:05am
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Gumpaste is what you need if you want to make the flowers to harden. These can be made well in advance and you can save them and keep them for many years.

You can make the gumpaste at home if you can get some tylose or gum tragacanth.

Jenna1588 Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 12:08am

Thanks, gonna give it a go. Practice apparently makes perfect ;)

smittyditty Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 12:39am

AGlad you found some help and I learned some lingo ;)

Jenna1588 Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 1:05am

No thank you. Every one is so helpful :)

sweettooth101 Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 1:58am

Here is a recipe I use all the time and  this video might help http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m--Djm74i8Q   hth.

 


Gumpaste with tylose:

makes approximately 1 pound of gumpaste.

2 - Large Egg Whites
1 lb sifted icing sugar
6 - Level teaspoons Tylose
4 - Teaspoons shortening (Crisco) or any white vegetable shortening

1. Place the egg whites in a Kitchen Aid mixer bowl fitted with the flat paddle.

2. Turn the mixer on high speed for 10 seconds to break up the egg whites.

3. Reserve 1 cup of the powdered sugar and set aside.

4. Turn the mixer to the lowest speed and slowly add the remaining sugar. This will make a soft consistency royal icing.

5. Turn up the speed to setting 3 or 4 for about 2 minutes. During this time measure off the tylose into a small container.

6. Make sure the mixture is at the soft peak stage. It should look shiny, like meringue and the peaks fall over. (If coloring the entire batch, add the paste color at this stage, making it a shade darker than the desired color.)

7. Turn the mixer to the slow setting and sprinkle the Tylose in over a five second time period. Next, turn the speed up to the high setting for a few seconds. (This will thicken the mixture.

8. Scrape the mixture out of the bowl onto a work surface that has been sprinkled with some of the reserved 1 cup of
powdered sugar. Place the shortening on your hands and knead the paste, adding enough of the reserved powdered sugar to form a soft but not sticky dough. You can check by pinching with your fingers and they should come away clean. Place the finished paste in a zip-top bag, then place the bagged paste in a second bag and seal well.

9. Place in the refrigerator for 24 hours if possible before using to mature the paste.

10. Before use, remove from refrigerator and allow the paste to come to room temperature. Take a small amount of shortening on the end of your finger and knead this into amount of paste you are going to use right away. If you are coloring the paste, add the paste color at this stage.

11. Always store the paste in the zip-top bags well wrapped in cling paper and return to the refrigerator when you are not using the paste. Will keep under refrigeration for approximately 6 months. You can keep the paste longer by freezing. Be sure to use zip-top freezer bags. If you will be freezing a batch of paste, allow it to mature for 24 hours in the refrigerator first before placing into the freezer.

maybenot Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 4:50am
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Originally Posted by Jenna1588 

I saw a tutorial on YouTube about that. Is this what I need? 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/C1000-ultra-fine-TYLO-POWDER-CMC-cake-decorating-icing-**********-gum-trag-sub-/360478153531?var=&hash=item92b200f872

 

Sorry for all the questions, never heard of half the stuff before I came on here, its great!

 

Thank you :)

 

P.S I'm wanting to use this for flowers etc x

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/160842913176?var=460091442225&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2648

Yes.  If you add some tylo powder to the ready to roll, you'll have a fine product for making flowers. 

 

A scant teaspoon of tylose added to 500g of sugarpaste should work well.  If you find that this dries too quickly, is too stiff, or is hard to smooth, add in some fresh paste without adding any more tylose.

Jenna1588 Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 11:37am

Thanks maybenot. On the tutorial i made note she added half tsp to 250g thanks for the info though. Appreciate it :)

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