A[IMG]http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/3008682/width/200/height/400[/IMG] Ok so for my cousins wedding I am making the cake. They want this, but with purple flowers. I have a million questions, I am for the most part a cake newb. What kind of dowel rods do you use for a cake? Are the dowels cut to be only as tall as one tier and seperate dowels in all the cakes? Or do you have long dowels that go through all of the tiers (or several )? I'm doing 18", 14", 10" and 6". Are those good sizes? Do you think 20# of fondant will be enough? I looked at earlenes chart and I'm still confused. The flowers, can I adhere then to fondant with cream cheese frosting? Should the flowers be completely dry before adhereing them? How many flowers do you think it will take? How far in advance should I make them to be dry on time? How far in advance can I make the cake. The weddjng is june first, and I'm getting into town on may 27th. Can my main coloring agent of the flowers be luster dust? How do I figure out how many times of each recipe to get a certain sized cake? If I make the cake in advance how dhould I store it. Its hard to find a fridhe or freezer with 18" of space lol.
And I've read on here that cream cheese frosting melts fondant so you might want to go with just regular buttercream
AI think I would be making the flowers right now because there is so many of them.
AAnother thing to think of is if a 18 pan will fit into the oven that your baking in....you might have to buy the half circle pans and cook in those.
AThank you for the video. And the couple wants cream cheese specifically. What should I do? And thqnk you for the advice. I will definitely start making flowees as soon as I get there
AAny cutter you would recommend for thid flower? I've seen a few that I like but I'm not sure
..........The flowers, can I adhere then to fondant with cream cheese frosting? Should the flowers be completely dry before adhereing them? How many flowers do you think it will take? How far in advance should I make them to be dry on time?......
Can my main coloring agent of the flowers be luster dust?..........
Yes you can but it would be better if you used royal icing OR melted white choco.
Do be aware that purple/lavender flowers WILL fade to an ugly gray when exposed to light of any kind - especially sunlight.
How many flowers you need depends on the size you make them. You are going to need several hunderd at least. You don 't say what icing you are using to make the flowers but if b'cream then yes, they do need to be dry. Any other, probably not. Of course, which icing used will determine how long they will take to dry. If fondant or royal, overnight should be fine.
Using dust only will give a very light/pale color but yes, it can be done - and look pretty :)
..........Are the dowels cut to be only as tall as one tier and seperate dowels in all the cakes?.......
No, you don't cut all dowels the same & use in different tiers. Definately EACH teir needs to have the dowels cut to the heigth of that tier, but all those used in one tier are cut to the same heigth.
..........I'm doing 18", 14", 10" and 6". Are those good sizes?..........
Good sizes for what? How many servings do you need? That determines what sizes you need to use.
.......How far in advance can I make the cake. The weddjng is june first, and I'm getting into town on may 27th....
If you have fzr space you can bake now. But it sounds like you are out of town from the wedding & will bake there so you can bake as soon as you get there. If more than 3 days, fz the tiers once filled. You can even ice them before fzing.
..........How do I figure out how many times of each recipe to get a certain sized cake?...........
An 18x2" R pan needs 3 batches of of my *original* WASC recipe. But the other poster is right - be SURE pan will fit in your oven - it won't fit in most kitchen ovens. For a 14x2" R pan you need 2 batches of the WASC and one will be enough for both the 10 & 6 rounds. But remember you need to bake 2 of each size pan so all together you will need 9 or 10 mixes. http://cakecentral.com/a/the-original-wasc-cake-recipe
AMsybe i could fill with cream cheese and frost with bitter cream?
If you look up Earlene Moore's site she has a great cr ch b'cream that you could use.
the tiers will serve the amount of people that are coming. they are taking the top tier home. that wassomething that i could actually figure out with the wilton chart. i meant will they look nice and even?
i ammaking the flowers with fondant. and i'm assembling it the day of. it should be inside all day soihope it should not fade.
AIf it were me making that many flowers out of fondant/ gumpaste I would start making them now just my opion but I don't know what your making them out of. And yeah I've read on here that cream cheese and fondant don't get a long maybe a cream cheese filling would be ok with buttercream on the outside of the cake than fondant over that.
So first, the sizes will look just fine. On dowels, since this is such a big cake and you are not using fondant I would make sure you have a very stable support system like sps. On the flowers, I would guess you will need tons of flowers something like 800-1000 and since you are using either cream cheese or buttercream you will need them completely dry. I would definitely start working on them now not when you get there. In the picture they are hydrangea flowers but you can use cherry blossoms as well. You can use luster dust but as someone else said it will not give it a dark color just a light dusting of color. I would either color your fondant/gumpaste the color you want or you can paint them afterward when they are dry either by hand or airbrush if you have one. You can actually make the cake now and freeze it until you get there or you can make it when you get there. If you don't have access to a fridge or freezer then you may have to rethink cream cheese since it has to be refrigerated.
i am using fondant. to cover the cakes and to make the flowers. but don't the cakes need to be lightly iced underneathe? will using fondant change the support system? i'm building the cake at the event.
i would love to start making flowers now,but idon't have any fondant. i live in florida, and the cake is to be made in ohio. i would love to buy fondnat now,but i heard that you can't have a 20# bucket of fondant as a carry on lol.
AYes you want buttercream under the fondant and remember that an 18 probably won't fit in a regular oven you'll need to buy half circle pan. Can you make flowers and take them on your carry on ?
for the flowers I would make them out of flowerpaste /gumpaste . You can make it yourself so you won't have to buy a bucket of fondant to make them. I would also buy a clix stix blossom cutter . It makes life so much easier it cuts four different sizes of blossoms in one hit , multiples of each size.
AThis chart says how much to use for each cake
a clix stix? where could i getone of those? and how do you make flower paste?
i already bought an 18" pan :/.ihope it fits.
and i'll be traveling with a baby, i don't think i'll have much room for anything elseon a carry on. even if i did, i don't have the supplies yet.
thankyou for the chart. i will need 16 # of fondant. not including the flowers
any advice on a fondant to use for beginners? that would work for bothcovering and flowers. i heard the fondx stays soft longer so you can lay it properly, but it doesn;t harden well for flowers?
Wow - good luck! Are you planning on tryingout any/all of this before you make it? I can recommend that it would be really valuable to do a small tier and make some flowers just to make sure you know what to do.
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AMade a mix of half fondant half gumpaste for the flowers they will dry very quickly You can buy gumpaste at michaels , hobby lobby or joann fabrics use a coupon to get 40% off
AThankyou everyone you have been so helpful.
AWow, you're brave, hope it works out for you. I started off making my own fondant to practice with, then bought Satin Ice for the real deal. Working with my crappy fondant made using Satin Ice a dream to work with, for your flowers I would use satin ice and add Wilton's Gum-Tex to it to make it like a gum paste. I would start making all those flowers now. Let us know how it turned out.
thanks i definetly will take lots of pictures. i hope it goes well too. any one haveany idea if i will need two jars of petal dust to color these flowers? i'm thinking that one should be fine, buti'd hateto be half way done with half white flowers.