Do you 'waste' the sides of your wedding cakes?

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denetteb Posted 7 May 2013 , 7:57pm
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I cringed a little inside every time she referred to the scrap and waste cake.  What a nutty thing to do.  And for her to say the industry standard size is 4 fingers by 2, I figure that is about 1 1/2 by 3 inches.  Again, no.  Should link her to Indy's cutting method which works like a charm, ends up with pretty regular sizes and no waste or scrap. Good heavens the waste with even bigger tiers.  Half would be in the garbage. 

auntginn Posted 7 May 2013 , 8:09pm
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I just left her a message on her fb site as well.

kakeladi Posted 7 May 2013 , 8:34pm
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I haqven't read all your replies but I have had people stand in line waiting until I can serve them a piece w/the outisde icing on it.  What's wrong w/someone who won't serve a piece of cake just because they don't happen to like lots of icing?

I know Earlene discards some of those edge peices in her serving charts too.  Just never understood that.

sixinarow Posted 7 May 2013 , 8:47pm
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I didn't watch this with the volume on, did she really not mention anything about cutting the remainder up, or did she refer to it as waste? 

Waste.

I would be livid if I was the bride or whoever was paying for the cake to "see the caterers in the back feasting on the waste." STOOOOOOOOP, put the knife down, back away from the cake and Google "how to cut a round wedding cake". Ugh.

sixinarow Posted 7 May 2013 , 8:57pm
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Someone enlighten her please.round%20cake%20example.gif

denetteb Posted 7 May 2013 , 9:00pm
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http://cateritsimple.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-cut-wedding-cake.html

 

No circle cutting, no waste.  I have also done it by leaving the two inch piece attached at the end if I want to keep it upright.  Then cut the end  piece when I am at the end of the row.

Annabakescakes Posted 7 May 2013 , 9:12pm
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Doesn't she know it is a sin to waste good cake??? I have never seen such stupidity in my life...well, not often, since my divorce...

sixinarow Posted 7 May 2013 , 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by denetteb 

http://cateritsimple.blogspot.com/2010/05/how-to-cut-wedding-cake.html

 

No circle cutting, no waste.  I have also done it by leaving the two inch piece attached at the end if I want to keep it upright.  Then cut the end  piece when I am at the end of the row.

Your way is best, I just attached the picture that popped up when I googled "how to cut a round wedding cake". icon_smile.gif I'm a frosting lover, so it makes me sad to think of all the sugar that ended up in a trashcan...

Annabakescakes Posted 7 May 2013 , 9:26pm
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Originally Posted by AZCouture 

I didn't watch this with the volume on, did she really not mention anything about cutting the remainder up, or did she refer to it as waste? 

She did actually say, "Now I am just going to discard that," as she moved the hunk over to the plate! Inconceivable!

Annabakescakes Posted 7 May 2013 , 9:32pm
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I also noticed that chunk of hair getting clumpier and greasier in later videos, lol. She must've filmed them all in one day.

AndreasCakes Posted 7 May 2013 , 9:41pm
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Well, I bet it's safe to say she's probably embarrassed by now.

 

I've never heard of such a thing.

AZCouture Posted 7 May 2013 , 9:42pm
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I watched it about 5 minutes later after I posted, with the volume up. A couple times actually. Ouch!

costumeczar Posted 7 May 2013 , 10:00pm
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AI do have to say that there's a baker in town here who tells clients that square cakes are more expensive than round ones because to get a square shape you have to start with a round one, then cut the square one out of that. So you end up wasting a lot of cake. Durrr...

KathleenC Posted 7 May 2013 , 10:04pm
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I do have to say that there's a baker in town here who tells clients that square cakes are more expensive than round ones because to get a square shape you have to start with a round one, then cut the square one out of that. So you end up wasting a lot of cake. Durrr...

  *facepalm*

 

Oh good grief.

denetteb Posted 7 May 2013 , 10:08pm
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Good heavens, how stupid can some professionals be?  The baker sells cakes but doesn't know that there are square cake pans?  You can get square and rectangular at any KMart, Walmar, Target...she must know there are good quality ones available too.  Doesn't even Michaels carry square pans?  

ellavanilla Posted 7 May 2013 , 10:08pm
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Originally Posted by costumeczar 

I do have to say that there's a baker in town here who tells clients that square cakes are more expensive than round ones because to get a square shape you have to start with a round one, then cut the square one out of that. So you end up wasting a lot of cake. Durrr...

 

hahahahahaaaa! no silly, it's for all the frosting you need to build out the sides....

iCookiBake Posted 7 May 2013 , 10:17pm
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Originally Posted by costumeczar 

I do have to say that there's a baker in town here who tells clients that square cakes are more expensive than round ones because to get a square shape you have to start with a round one, then cut the square one out of that. So you end up wasting a lot of cake. Durrr...

Are you SERIOUS ?!?! No .. like... for real? I can't even believe this. I would feel like I was being punked if I went to order a cake from that baker!!!!!

I'm farrrrr from a professional/commercial baker, but just having plain common sense should make a person realize how stupid that is.

iCookiBake Posted 7 May 2013 , 10:18pm
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Originally Posted by denetteb 

Good heavens, how stupid can some professionals be?  The baker sells cakes but doesn't know that there are square cake pans?  You can get square and rectangular at any KMart, Walmar, Target...she must know there are good quality ones available too.  Doesn't even Michaels carry square pans?  

Isn't it amazing that these people are actually able to RUN a BUSINESS??!!

Maybe I should consider making this a business too ... since anyone can do it.

me_me1 Posted 7 May 2013 , 10:23pm
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Tempted to put "get out" and "just go" in the comments on her page but don't think she would get the reference...   icon_smile.gif    Maybe her stupidity can be included in the next cake muggles video???

VanillaSky Posted 7 May 2013 , 11:13pm
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AWow, I don't agree with her cutting methods because I am all about the cake. i don't even like 3D carved cake because I can't bear to waste delicious cake and expensive ingredients.

That said, this baker seems to run a very successful, high-end NYC bakery. And, maybe, just maybe her clients might just rather have perfect-looking slices then save a few hundred bucks on cake. Per a recent entry on her Facebook page, she just had a client who had her wedding at the St. Regis, so clearly money was not a huge issue for that bride.

Again, I don't agree with her methods, and she should not by passing her cake cutting methods off as industry standard but I can't believe how harsh people are being.

I do not think she is stupid.

manddi Posted 7 May 2013 , 11:35pm
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I would never waste that much cake! Wedding cakes are expensive because of the work involved; not because of the "waste" involved!

By the by, did anyone else notice that the cake itself is not level and kinda wonky?

I should clarify that the cake as a whole looks good; I mean that the layers are wonky.

denetteb Posted 8 May 2013 , 12:02am
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I was calling costumeczars fellow baker stupid.  The one who tells her clients that square cakes are more expensive because they start with a round and get cut down to a square.  I stand my my comment to call her method stupid.  I should learn how to use quotes from other posters so there isn't misunderstanding.

 

I think Michelles method to throw away a significant portion of the cake just to get all rectangular slices is unusual, unconventional, wasteful and a number of other things.  Her reference to the industry standard slices is also significantly larger than what most of us think as the industry standard.  But then, who really gets to say what is the industry standard?  Her prices are really high so she is getting paid for the larger slices I guess.  Her video is not just going out to the  St Regis customers, but anyone searching for cake cutting info.  It would be interesting to see how the St  Regis staff cut up the cake? 

costumeczar Posted 8 May 2013 , 12:41am
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I was calling costumeczars fellow baker stupid.  The one who tells her clients that square cakes are more expensive because they start with a round and get cut down to a square.  I stand my my comment to call her method stupid.  I should learn how to use quotes from other posters so there isn't misunderstanding.

I think Michelles method to throw away a significant portion of the cake just to get all rectangular slices is unusual, unconventional, wasteful and a number of other things.  Her reference to the industry standard slices is also significantly larger than what most of us think as the industry standard.  But then, who really gets to say what is the industry standard?  Her prices are really high so she is getting paid for the larger slices I guess.  Her video is not just going out to the  St Regis customers, but anyone searching for cake cutting info.  It would be interesting to see how the St  Regis staff cut up the cake? 

I doubt that she cuts her own cakes, she delivers then leaves. I don't cut the cake myself and I have no idea how different venues cut it. But they don't throw it out like that, I do know that. Maybe someone in New York does cut it like that (I doubt it but it's possible) and they gave her bad information.

Having said that, I did remember where I saw her before, she was on that throwdown with Bobby flay show. She was very nice and extremely nervous, so if she's been reading any of this she's probably curled up in a fetal position somewhere. I seriously doubt that any of her clients' reception venues cuts the cake the way that she does in that video...the worst thing that could come of it is some bride seeing it and thinking that it's the right way to do it, then blaming us for wasting cake. But like I have to tell the brides who come in from the baker who cuts the square cakes out of round ones, that isn't how it's done. I'd tell someone who asked about it that they should ask their venue how it's cut because everyone does it differently.

I also tell brides that the round-cake-into-square baker needs to try this newfangled invention called "square cake pans."

AAtKT Posted 8 May 2013 , 1:36am
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Look at the dates on her timeline there... 

That St. Regis wedding was in Jan 2011...

Heck... The video post itself was from Feb of this year...

It doesn't look like her facebook page gets alot of attention by her...

Then again, I shouldn't talk... I haven't even bothered to get a facebook...

kazita Posted 8 May 2013 , 2:13am
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AYeah I too noticed that her facebook page doesn't get much attention I wonder if she'll ever even notice any postings on there.

bct806 Posted 8 May 2013 , 2:28am
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Woooooow. Not sure who taught her how to cut a cake but even I know that you aren't supposed to do that. There are so many cake cutting downloads on the internet. How did she come up with this???

urbangrl2007 Posted 8 May 2013 , 4:43am
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First, she really touched her hair then the cake?? Really?!

 

Second, why would you cut it this way and create the waste. I do like the look of all of the slices looking the same, but just because they're not the same shape when you cut them in the circular fashion, doesn't mean they're different total sizes. 

 

Not sure how I feel about this. Something to think about for sure, but I just don't know why you would ultimately waste something that was paid for. What if you went to the Bride or MOB and said, "Oh hey, by the way, we waisted ____ amount of cake to cut it properly", I'm pretty sure the cake decorator would be asked for a portion of the cost back...

vgcea Posted 8 May 2013 , 7:24am
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That website's probably wondering "What's with the sudden traffic?" 

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kazita Posted 8 May 2013 , 7:53am
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That website's probably wondering "What's with the sudden traffic?"  :lol:

We all wanted to see how to cut our wedding cakes.....lol. :grin:

owatto Posted 8 May 2013 , 11:09am
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The sides she cut off weren't even straight. So I don't know how she is supposed to get all even pieces when she hacks of the "waste" 
If someone cut one of my cakes like that there wouldn't be enough slices, I would never give slices that big for a wedding. 

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