Gerle Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 4:45pm
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Has anyone heard of or tried this?  I just got an email today from Wilton advertising this product.  I don't know if I'd want to try it or not.  It is supposed to be made out of coconut oil which will be absorbed by the cake, but when you're ready to frost, there will be no crumbs.  They state that you won't need to put on a thin coat of frosting as a crumb coat if you use this product.  Just looking for comments to see what other's opinions are on this product.

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Norasmom Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 4:56pm
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What will they think of next?!!  I think the traditional crumb coat will always rule.

tdovewings Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 5:08pm
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I saw this and started laughing hysterically. At some point this is all going to come full circle and we are going to go back to basics. Even before I was in cake decorating my mom would "thin" her icing with a little milk for a crumb coat, put it in the fridge and then frost with the "real frosting". She didn't know anything about decorating either, just a plan ole homemade cake for Sunday dinner.  That product seems very bizarre to me, I wouldn't touch it with a 10ft pole. If it is just coconut oil, it would be solid at room temp and wouldn't spray so what other toxic chemical is in there to make that spray at room temp and potentially leave an aftertaste on the cake?   

 

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Gerle Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 6:29pm
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That was my thought, too.  Just wasn't too sure about the chemicals.  I've tried coconut oil and in some things it's great, but not sure if it would leave that taste on the cake or not, and who wants a slight taste of coconut on each and every cake they make?  There are some things you need a shortcut for....I don't think crumb coating is one of them!

MsGF Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 6:44pm
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I was given a can of this product (I'm an instructor) by the company.  I won't use it either.  I think it is a really dumb product.  I would not use it on my cakes.  It contains propellants, not good.  I also don't think it is necessary to add extra crap to cake.  That is what grocery stores do.  Make crap with added yucky stuff.  No thanks.  Also I'm strictly  GF and it says "may contain wheat".  I think this is an unnecessary product that will be a big flop.  Crumb coating is easy and fast.  I would not recommend this product to anyone.   Just my personal opinion.  icon_lol.gif

hbquikcomjamesl Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 6:56pm
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Well, it's hardly the first utterly ridiculous product Wilton has come up with. And it probably won't be the last.

 

(Although I don't quite get all the invective I've seen here about their pans; I have a couple [a 9x13 with a snap-on cover, and an 8x8 that I bought because it was the cheapest 8x8 that didn't have a nonstick coating], and they seem decent enough to me. And those other pans with the folded corners [instead of pressed/hydroformed/whatever] seem like they'd be impossible to completely clean.)

auntginn Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 7:36pm
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Not me, I won't be using it either.  Not too mentions the chemicals we'll be releasing into the air thru the aerosol spray?  I have enough allergy problems.

ellavanilla Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 7:39pm
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i think it also misses the fact that the crumb coat levels and holds the cake together. how will a mist be the foundation for that? it might keep your crumbs down, but there's more that you will need.

AZCouture Posted 30 Apr 2013 , 7:53pm
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Good grief! 

PTDixieGal Posted 2 May 2013 , 2:34am

I tend to stick to something that my mother used to say, "If you can make it at home, don't buy it-you'll save money." Same here. I'm relatively new to this but I don't see the need for this product.

DebbyJG Posted 2 May 2013 , 4:41am
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Originally Posted by tdovewings 
If it is just coconut oil, it would be solid at room temp and wouldn't spray so what other toxic chemical is in there to make that spray at room temp and potentially leave an aftertaste on the cake?   

 

 

I'm pretty much a coconut oil nut (har har) - I use it for EVERYthing, and I mean everything, from melting it down for cooking, to softening it up with essential oils and vitamin E in my mixer to make homemade (and highly superior to any chemical alphebet soup variety) skin cream. You know that guy in My Big Fat Greek Wedding that thinks window spray is the ultimate cure for everything and sprays it on everyone? Yeah, that's me with my raw virgin coconut oil. :)

 

But as a spray for a crumb coating? No.  If it is real coconut oil, it's solid at room temp. If it's refined coconut oil, it won't have any coconut taste (another poster mentioned that) but it WILL be full of other chemicals. 

Yuck.

cazza1 Posted 2 May 2013 , 6:47am

Well, when it flops in America they will probably package it all up and send it to Australia to try and sucker us into buying it.

Jess155 Posted 2 May 2013 , 12:44pm

As my husband would say, "It's a solution looking for a problem."  I agree with ellavanilla, my crumbcoat stabilizes my cake. 

scwright Posted 4 Aug 2013 , 1:19pm

I took a look at this product and while I think it's not necessary either as a crumb coat is very easy to do it's actually not as bad as everyone is making it out to be. The exact ingredients are: Coconut oil, propellants (isobutene and propane).  For all those worried about the chemicals etc. this spray contains less chemicals then your average baking spray that you "coat" your pans with before baking your cakes.  Ex. Baker's Joy spray contains: Soybean Oil, propellant (isobutene, propane), hydroxylated soy lecithin, soy lecithin, enriched wheat flour (niacin, iron, thiamine monoitrate, riboflavin, folic acid), silicon dioxide, TBHQ (to ensure freshness).   Now how many of us are willing to give up our baking spray? lol

as you wish Posted 4 Aug 2013 , 2:13pm

AI saw an ad for this stuff too. I couldn't get my head around it.

howsweet Posted 4 Aug 2013 , 2:59pm

I'm not going to defend another silly Wilton product designed to take advantage of inexperienced cake decorators. I just want to say that propellants like isobutane and propane are gases at room temperature, so you might breath some, but it's not going to stay on the cake.

leah_s Posted 4 Aug 2013 , 4:00pm

^ What s/he said.  It's a silly product.  

MsNeuropil Posted 21 Sep 2014 , 4:19am

I hope this thread is ok to post in since no one has commented in a month or more.  

 

One more thing to be concerned about in using this product is the same issue that can occur with any spray on coatings/oils.  

 

As a RN I was taught that there was a potential for a type of pneumonia that is caused by inhalation of said products.  It is a very hard to treat lung disease.  The fine aerosol of oils (and other things I am sure) get way way down into the little sacks (alveolar ) where gas exchange occur.  Very hard to treat this damage since it is inflammation that is what can cause actual damage.

 

Because I am a bit paranoid about this issue...I always put my pans to be treated with Pam or other pan sprays into the bottom of the empty dishwasher...then spray lightly with door only opened enough to do the job.  I then close door for 5 mins or so before taking pan out.

 

As a way to see how much spray is deposited invisibly...I cleaned my range hood and surfaces very well...then sprayed like most people do...with pans sitting by the stove.  Then I took a paper towel and wiped down range hood and surfaces.  That showed me that no matter how careful and little the amount used...a fine layer of oil settles onto work surfaces.  My son had really bad asthma...which is why I went to such measures.  If my dishwasher isn't empty I will walk my pans outside and spray them.  

 

In 2007, Seattle PI conducted studies on 22 leading cooking sprays. They found that even small amounts of the sprays, when heated, released high concentrations of diacetyl, a chemical that causes serious and even fatal respiratory disease under repeated, long-term exposure. Although manufacturers have since removed products containing diacetyl from the market, some health advocates fear that using aerosol products is still risky since the long-term effects of inhaling the particles and vapors of other artificial ingredients isn’t known.

 

http://www.ajronline.org/doi/full/10.2214/AJR.09.3040  Lipoid Pneumonia: Spectrum of Clinical and Radiologic Manifestations


Read More: http://www.ajronline.org/doi/full/10.2214/AJR.09.3040

winniemog Posted 21 Sep 2014 , 4:38am

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Well, when it flops in America they will probably package it all up and send it to Australia to try and sucker us into buying it.

You're absolutely right Cazza, but it won't make it to WA until it's sat around the east coast for a few months (or years!)

johnson6ofus Posted 21 Sep 2014 , 5:56am

Likewise, Wilton instructor and can't see the use for this at all... even as mailed to me for free. Another way for them to make $5.

-K8memphis Posted 21 Sep 2014 , 10:36am

Amight it be a help for the bare uniced cakes ? just a special ingredient for that maybe -- I haven't done one but I worry about the edges staying pretty --

MsNeuropil-- I'm so glad you said that about your lungs and those sprays and your dishwasher! Priceless! I always hold my breath and spray in one room and turn around and go the other way to breathe! dishwasher is even better! but people think I'm nuts --

I worked at this one place and this baker sprayed forever onto these pans in order to bake something that was pretty sticky - omg I'm sure her lungs are shot because she did it all the time and just stood there and breathed it all in agh! I mean i gagged and coughed forever from that one excessive application - and although I did *mention* that I thought she might have single handedly knocked years off my life -- she showed little concern for her own health -- "it's just spray"

but idk -- maybe 'cause my pop died of lung cancer even if I sprinkle cleanser or something I wait til it settles before i come back and finish cleaning-- I try to watch what I breathe --

those little balloons in there are preciously important -- lungs

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