theSweetessa Posted 7 Apr 2013 , 10:23pm
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Hi Everyone!
I have been making home made fondant for a while using beef gelatin, but have not been able to find it anymore and had to switch to fish gelatin ( The reason for this is I need a halal gelatin.)
I have found the fondant is totally misbehaving! I have been trying to adjust the measurement of the gelatin (it's 250 Bloom) and it is still not working. The fondant is almost fluffy, and falls apart, crumbling when I try to put it on the cake. It is behaving the same way that the fondant I made with agar agar did... terrible!!

Does anyone have suggestions on how to correct this issue? Should I use far less gelatin? Add glucose? 
At one point I was using the fondant as is - white - and it was fine. Went on the cake easily. But then when I added Americolor gel it just broke down completely.

 

Thanks in advance everyone!

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HajraK Posted 7 Apr 2013 , 10:32pm
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Hello fellow newbie!

 

I only eat halal and so am VERY familiar with the food situation :)

 

Why dont you try buying halal marshmallows (found at many halal grocery stores)? This is what I do when making fondant. It would give a nice taste and be halal.

 

Do you live in a big city? I have tried looking at my own halal grocery stores here in Houston for actual halal gelatin but I have not found any. I really want to try to find some though for making the lacquer glaze on cakes!

 

Another idea is to order halal gelatin online. There is this website that might be helpful

http://www.halalgelatine.com/buyonline.html

 

Also, are you in an area with kosher stores? If you find certified kosher gelatin, this may or may not be acceptable depending on your client. Some Muslims are fine with it whereas others are not, often due to not being able to verify its authenticity (many companies have scammed both faiths in the past with false certifications).

 

Good luck and let me know if you find anything!

Annabakescakes Posted 7 Apr 2013 , 10:39pm
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There are recipes for fondant that just use marshmallow fluff, as well. It is Kosher.

HajraK Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 4:06am
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Hmmm..might want to double check on the fluff product itself..last time I checked, it was not halal and I would not consume it myself as someone who eats halal. But again, this depends on the individual.

Annabakescakes Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 5:06am
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Hmmm..might want to double check on the fluff product itself..last time I checked, it was not halal and I would not consume it myself as someone who eats halal. But again, this depends on the individual.

Original message sent by HajraK

Hello fellow newbie!

I only eat halal and so am VERY familiar with the food situation :)

Why dont you try buying halal marshmallows (found at many halal grocery stores)? This is what I do when making fondant. It would give a nice taste and be halal.

Do you live in a big city? I have tried looking at my own halal grocery stores here in Houston for actual halal gelatin but I have not found any. I really want to try to find some though for making the lacquer glaze on cakes!

Another idea is to order halal gelatin online. There is this website that might be helpful [URL=http://www.halalgelatine.com/buyonline.html]http://www.halalgelatine.com/buyonline.html[/URL]

[B]Also, are you in an area with kosher stores? If you find certified kosher gelatin, this may or may not be acceptable depending on your client. ][/B]Some Muslims are fine with it whereas others are not, often due to not being able to verify its authenticity (many companies have scammed both faiths in the past with false certifications).

Good luck and let me know if you find anything!

On this marshmallow fluff page it says its Kosher http://www.marshmallowfluff.com/pages/faq.html

Godot Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 6:01am
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Last time I checked, there was a big ol' hechsher on the Marshmallow Fluff label.

 

Agar agar and gelatin substitute made from fish don't have the same properties as gelatin, so why would they behave the same? That's like assuming you can substitute yeast for baking soda with the same results. 

 

Why not purchase a fondant that is kosher? Satin Ice comes to mind - personally I don't like it 'cause I think it stinks, but it is kosher and I know lots of folks swear by it! 

meriem Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 10:23am
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There are recipes for fondant that just use marshmallow fluff, as well. It is Kosher.

Halal marshmallows might be an option, or you can just buy it, not sure where you live, but I just by mine from tesco suitable for vegetarians, so halal. Works really well in covering and saves me the hassle of making it myself. Also used satin ice before, again very easy to use and tastes great.

meriem Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 10:24am
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AA lot of the times it's hard to find halal speciality items, but a lot easier to find kosher, so I always search for kosher too.

HajraK Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 7:11pm
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Oh the one sold in the grocery store nearest me is of a different brand..so maybe its a brand thing?

 

Also, just to be on the safe side, make sure the people/person the cake is being made for are alright with kosher gelatin. Some Muslims are and some are not (I say this with experience of the differing views in my own family!).

enga Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 7:37pm

Hi everyone, after having a life changing experience about 3 months ago, I have stopped eating pork and pork products.  I had no idea how many products have pork in them.

 

I have a friend who lives in the US that was craving a dessert from home called mutabbak, thank goodness we have a store here that sells Hala and kosher products from his country.

 

I found this site for clean and unclean foods, it has a pretty extensive list of grocery store products.

 

http://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/CUPL.html

 

HTH

enga Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 7:55pm

Sorry, I tried to add the page with the baked goods and products, here it is:

 

http://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/CUPL.html#Candy

meriem Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 8:23pm

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Oh the one sold in the grocery store nearest me is of a different brand..so maybe its a brand thing?

Also, just to be on the safe side, make sure the people/person the cake is being made for are alright with kosher gelatin. Some Muslims are and some are not (I say this with experience of the differing views in my own family!).

It might be a brand thing, where do you buy your fondant from? I am hobby baker so don't need to deal with costumers (thank god lol). I just use vegetarian products on my cakes, just mentioned kosher as an option.

meriem Posted 8 Apr 2013 , 8:25pm

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Sorry, I tried to add the page with the baked goods and products, here it is:

[URL=http://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/CUPL.html#Candy]http://www.theisraelofgodrc.com/CUPL.html#Candy[/URL]

Thank you for the link, I have always just read ingredients lists when I buy something, that way you can't go wrong in what your eating :)

Annabakescakes Posted 9 Apr 2013 , 12:02am

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It might be a brand thing, where do you buy your fondant from? I am hobby baker so don't need to deal with costumers (thank god lol). I just use vegetarian products on my cakes, just mentioned kosher as an option.

Costumers must be pretty hard to deal with, with all the fittings and such, I am glad I just have the customers ;-)

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