BeesKnees578 Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 1:37pm
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The following is an email from a potential client.  I have never had such a specific order request that I don't even know where to begin.  First of all, I will be on vacay from June 15-20th.  My June is pretty open right now, so I can get the figures done before-hand and even the baking, for that matter.  I can't wait to sit down and price this baby out....although I'm sure I will get the "Oh, I didn't realize that it would be that much..." response.  I'm thinking at least $15-20/figure and she wants 7!!!!!  I will have to ask her how many she needs to serve first to see how big this thing will need to be.  And with all the detail of the expressions she wants, they will have to be decent size figures.  Oy...any thoughts?

 

 

Hello,

I am throwing a surprise birthday party for my son on June 22, 2013. I have an awesome idea for his birthday cake. It's a lot easier to describe it over the phone than in a message. But my idea involves a football field cake with some sculpted football players and a couple cheerleaders. Can you tell me if you're available for that date?

Here's my idea for his cake.

I wanted a football field cake. My son plays defense and I wanted him reaching for the QB with like a "GRRRR" look on his face and the QB with his eyes shut and knees bent inward handing over the ball..like he's scared. And my son would be in mid stride with his foot looking like he stuffed another opposing players head in the turf with his body sticking out. Or possibly have my son's shoe print on the opposing players face and kind of flattened into the turf. Also, one other of my son's teammates chasing after another opposing player with the opposing player running away looking scared. I was thinking 5 football players. Plus I wanted two cheerleaders off of the cake holding up a banner like what football players run through that says Happy 18th Birthday Andrew.

I wanted the players to have their numbers with the uniforms closely matching their uniforms as well as the opposing players uniforms. I know the cheerleaders uniforms would be extremely difficult to match totally but close would be great. I would like one cheerleader to resemble his cheerleader. I have photos I can email if you are available for this date.

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Crazy-Gray Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 1:50pm
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A"Oh oh oh and the whole cake should be in a stadium with individually modelled spectators doing the Mexican wave and a streaker on the pitch with a tattoo of a unicorn..."

It's cute she's so excited, I love that, but come on! That's hours and hours and hours of work, I'd give her two prices; one based on about 30-40 hours work and one price based on 10 hours for a cake of my design... She can choose! Dont forget the PITA fee!

Realistically I would decline the order, I don't think I could live up to her expectations an I wouldn't want to suffer her disappointment...

-K8memphis Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 1:54pm
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Originally Posted by Crazy-Gray 

"Oh oh oh and the whole cake should be in a stadium with individually modelled spectators doing the Mexican wave and a streaker on the pitch with a tattoo of a unicorn..."

It's cute she's so excited, I love that, but come on! That's hours and hours and hours of work, I'd give her two prices; one based on about 30-40 hours work and one price based on 10 hours for a cake of my design... She can choose! Dont forget the PITA fee!

Realistically I would decline the order, I don't think I could live up to her expectations an I wouldn't want to suffer her disappointment...

 

 

perfect

tracyaem Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 2:06pm
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I would charge more than $20/figure especially with the detail she is requesting!  Although to be honest - I'd be hesitant to take this order for the reasons already mentioned, but if you want to "tackle" it (sorry, couldn't resist!) then I'd email back asking for info on the size/# of servings and mention that a basic cake starts at $x/serving (including your PITA markup!) and then the cost per figure. My guess is once she sees that she's paying $150-$200 just for the players she'll back out real quick or change the design. And if not and she's willing to pay, then have at it ;)

Crazy-Gray Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 2:10pm
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Actually I have changed my mind, I wouldn't decline :-)

 

My alternative suggestion would be a 2D comic strip style idea (attached a pic below) with all the things she wants happening somewhere in the scene, comic characatures are both easier, often more recognisable and way funnier than realistic ones!

 

This is the idea I pitched for my fox hunting cake- she wanted it entirely 3D with standing figures at first but the 2D cartoon style went down a real treat! (you can use my reference to back up your argument against her 3D idea if you like!)  icon_lol.gif

 

 

....one thing you can offer with this style is to make it from fondant directly on a square cake drum- it lets you make it waaaaay ahead of time and they can also lift it off, eat the cake and frame the scene.... hey don't laugh- it's been done!! icon_eek.gif

-K8memphis Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 3:29pm
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i vote for offering two options --price the one she wants then offer an affordable one

 

but often clients like this do not 'downsize' with the original caker in my experience

 

and once in a while they totally go for it and you can put the down payment on the condo in cancun ;)

kimmisue2009 Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 3:35pm
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I'm thinking my response would something like BLEEEEEEEEEP. 

 

The very reason I would not, could not, should not ever bake for profit.

Relznik Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 3:44pm
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And I bet she's forgotten to add "and my budget is $75" 

 

I had a close acquaintance email me for her son's Bar Mitzvah cake.  The party had a Mission Impossible theme.  She wanted 3 tiers (by the sound of it, it would have to be on some sort of stand, because it wasn't for a stacked cake) and on one tier she wanted a box of dynamite with a model of her son about to cut the wire.  On another tier, she wanted one of the cartoon ball shaped bombs with something like 'BANG!' in a speech bubble coming out of it.  And on the top tier, she wanted an Mac laptop, because he likes them.  I've really pared it back...  her list of requirements was soooo long and soooo specific.

 

However, once we discussed portions and prices, she ended up with this! icon_wink.gificon_wink.gificon_biggrin.gif

 

 

 

wildflowercakes Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 3:56pm
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And she probably only needs to serve 10-12 people.

-K8memphis Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 4:07pm

but she'll cut it to four servings if the price is cut accordingly

 

would you belive two servings... 2?? ;)

BeesKnees578 Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 4:50pm

Her reply when asked how many servings:

 

 

          "I was thinking white cake with a fondant field. With the field having yard markets & uprights. I would like a chocolate filling depending on cost. I understand that  

          for the scene I want I might have to have a full sheet."

 

I think the cost of chocolate filling will be the least of her worries.....a FULL SHEET (which I make 2 layers with a filling...with fondant starts at $4/svg.  How many servings in a full sheet?  Can I even roll fondant that big???  If it's a true full sheet, no.  I don't know cuz I don't do them, but would if she wants to spend a TON of money on this cake.  If she's waivering about the price of chocolate filling, her budget is around that $75 that someone earlier stated.

 

I am going to quote her full price with no other options just to see what she has to say.  Get ready, peeps, to ROTFL!!!!!

 

Wish me luck...lol!

BeesKnees578 Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by Relznik 

And I bet she's forgotten to add "and my budget is $75" 

 

I had a close acquaintance email me for her son's Bar Mitzvah cake.  The party had a Mission Impossible theme.  She wanted 3 tiers (by the sound of it, it would have to be on some sort of stand, because it wasn't for a stacked cake) and on one tier she wanted a box of dynamite with a model of her son about to cut the wire.  On another tier, she wanted one of the cartoon ball shaped bombs with something like 'BANG!' in a speech bubble coming out of it.  And on the top tier, she wanted an Mac laptop, because he likes them.  I've really pared it back...  her list of requirements was soooo long and soooo specific.

 

However, once we discussed portions and prices, she ended up with this! icon_wink.gificon_wink.gificon_biggrin.gif

 

 

 

That came out GREAT!!  Love it!

BeesKnees578 Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 5:50pm

I just quoted her $820.

 

Wait for it....I will post her reply!

Norasmom Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 5:56pm

I wouldn't attempt that cake for all the money in the world...it sounds so difficult!  People don't understand.

ohsugarsweets Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 6:02pm

I can't wait to read her response :)

NJsugarmama Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 6:06pm

AThe suspense is KILLING me!!

BeesKnees578 Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 6:17pm

I did preface the quote with:

 

Hello!
 
Let me start off by saying that a cake of this proportion and intense detail will take a full weeks worth of work to complete, possibly even longer.
 
With that being said, the cost would be $820 and would serve 72 people with the 12 x 18” sheet. I don’t even know if the 12 x 18” would be big enough for all that detail.
 
Thanks,
Brooke
AnnieCahill Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 6:31pm

I'm betting she won't reply after that.

dawnybird Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 6:41pm
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Originally Posted by Relznik 

And I bet she's forgotten to add "and my budget is $75" 

 

I had a close acquaintance email me for her son's Bar Mitzvah cake.  The party had a Mission Impossible theme.  She wanted 3 tiers (by the sound of it, it would have to be on some sort of stand, because it wasn't for a stacked cake) and on one tier she wanted a box of dynamite with a model of her son about to cut the wire.  On another tier, she wanted one of the cartoon ball shaped bombs with something like 'BANG!' in a speech bubble coming out of it.  And on the top tier, she wanted an Mac laptop, because he likes them.  I've really pared it back...  her list of requirements was soooo long and soooo specific.

 

However, once we discussed portions and prices, she ended up with this! icon_wink.gificon_wink.gificon_biggrin.gif

 

 

 


I know this is totally off-topic, but how in the world did you do that tiny writing where it says the case will self-destruct??!!  (Great cake btw!)

Relznik Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 6:43pm
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Originally Posted by dawnybird 


I know this is totally off-topic, but how in the world did you do that tiny writing where it says the case will self-destruct??!!  (Great cake btw!)


Thanks.  That was piped with royal icing. icon_smile.gif

BakingIrene Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 7:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeesKnees578 

The following is an email from a potential client.  I have never had such a specific order request that I don't even know where to begin.  First of all, I will be on vacay from June 15-20th.  My June is pretty open right now, so I can get the figures done before-hand and even the baking, for that matter.  I can't wait to sit down and price this baby out....although I'm sure I will get the "Oh, I didn't realize that it would be that much..." response.  I'm thinking at least $15-20/figure and she wants 7!!!!!  I will have to ask her how many she needs to serve first to see how big this thing will need to be.  And with all the detail of the expressions she wants, they will have to be decent size figures.  Oy...any thoughts?

 

 

Hello,

I am throwing a surprise birthday party for my son on June 22, 2013. I have an awesome idea for his birthday cake. It's a lot easier to describe it over the phone than in a message. But my idea involves a football field cake with some sculpted football players and a couple cheerleaders. Can you tell me if you're available for that date?

Here's my idea for his cake.

I wanted a football field cake. My son plays defense and I wanted him reaching for the QB with like a "GRRRR" look on his face and the QB with his eyes shut and knees bent inward handing over the ball..like he's scared. And my son would be in mid stride with his foot looking like he stuffed another opposing players head in the turf with his body sticking out. Or possibly have my son's shoe print on the opposing players face and kind of flattened into the turf. Also, one other of my son's teammates chasing after another opposing player with the opposing player running away looking scared. I was thinking 5 football players. Plus I wanted two cheerleaders off of the cake holding up a banner like what football players run through that says Happy 18th Birthday Andrew.

I wanted the players to have their numbers with the uniforms closely matching their uniforms as well as the opposing players uniforms. I know the cheerleaders uniforms would be extremely difficult to match totally but close would be great. I would like one cheerleader to resemble his cheerleader. I have photos I can email if you are available for this date.

Well if this ain't Cake Fantasy crossed with Helicopter Mom, I don't know what is.

 

You answer this the same way that you answer any other first inquiry.

 

You ask them to provide full name, address, telephone and cell#'s,  event site. Cake flavours, food allergies, ask for pics. You tell them your deadline for a deposit, your preferred methods of payment, your delivery charge, your base price for a field sheet cake, and your price per figure. BORE THEM.

 

Do not invest a second's time beyond the common courtesy until you see cold hard cash.

 

No cash? No order. Enjoy that vacation all the more...

BeesKnees578 Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 7:30pm

To which she replies:

 

 

"Wow ok. I appreciate your time but I won't pay that much for a cake. Thanks for your time.

Have a great day"

 

I gave her the names of some other bakers that may do the same quality as me.   And I did ask her budget, just for giggles...to see if there was something I could do for that budget.  I almost don't wanna know because as previous posters said....she won't be happy with anything since she is so picky.  BUT I am DYING to see what she thought she COULD pay for a cake like that.  I'll still find a way to turn it down if she emails me back.

 

I told her the figures alone would take 2-3 hours with the detail + expenses.

 

Whatevs

costumeczar Posted 27 Mar 2013 , 11:32pm
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Originally Posted by BeesKnees578 

To which she replies:

 

 

"Wow ok. I appreciate your time but I won't pay that much for a cake. Thanks for your time.

Have a great day"

 

"I won't pay that much for a cake."  ............. I think I would have sent her a map to Costco. At least she was semi-polite about it. People just have no idea.

BeesKnees578 Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 2:51am

She responded that her budget was $350-400, which really surprised me.  I asked her if she wanted me to come up with something within her budget. 

 

She said "No, thank you...I'm going to pass."

 

THANK GOODNESS!  Dodged that bullet.  Wasn't sure why she even bothered to tell me her budget if her answer was no.  Maybe she was lying and it really only was $75..she just didn't want me to know?
 

Stitches Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 3:19am

She was totally lieing to you about her budget! Don't believe that for one minute. She walked because you didn't roll over for her.

vgcea Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 5:15am
Quote:
Originally Posted by BeesKnees578 

She responded that her budget was $350-400, which really surprised me.  I asked her if she wanted me to come up with something within her budget. 

 

She said "No, thank you...I'm going to pass."

 

THANK GOODNESS!  Dodged that bullet.  Wasn't sure why she even bothered to tell me her budget if her answer was no.  Maybe she was lying and it really only was $75..she just didn't want me to know?
 

I doubt it. If she had plans to spend that much she would have tried to see what you could make for that amount. Champagne taste on a beer budget. Even if she could afford it, I feel like she would have been hard to satisfy.

jason_kraft Posted 28 Mar 2013 , 5:45am

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Original message sent by BeesKnees578

She responded that her budget was $350-400, which really surprised me.  I asked her if she wanted me to come up with something within her budget. 

She said "No, thank you...I'm going to pass."

THANK GOODNESS!  Dodged that bullet.  Wasn't sure why she even bothered to tell me her budget if her answer was no.  Maybe she was lying and it really only was $75..she just didn't want me to know?

Her next stop will probably be Craigslist to find an unlicensed baker who will donate their time to make the cake she wants within her budget. That's why she passed, she doesn't want to compromise on the design or the budget.

ladyonzlake Posted 2 Apr 2013 , 12:44am

I just about fell out of my chair when I saw her price for that very detailed cake was only $75.00!!!  I can't wait to see her response on the price you quoted her icon_biggrin.gif

ellavanilla Posted 2 Apr 2013 , 5:24pm

I blame Duff... icon_cry.gif

Relznik Posted 2 Apr 2013 , 6:59pm
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Originally Posted by ladyonzlake 

I just about fell out of my chair when I saw her price for that very detailed cake was only $75.00!!!  I can't wait to see her response on the price you quoted her icon_biggrin.gif


In fairness, she didn't...

 

...  It was I who said (jokingly) that that's what her budget probably is!!

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