Cupxcakexqueen Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 7:37am
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So i have a question. You know the double cakes (the fancy ones) i found out something about them today. Apparently you have to put some sort of big straw in the cake. 

 

So i have 2 questions for you. 

 

1.Why do we do it? i mean it's weird. The thing i dont get is you have to put it all the way down and cut it of. I dont know why but i thought it was pointless. But if it were pointless not everyone would do it. 

 

2. Have you ever tried the method and how did it go for you?  

 

thanks 

Dee.

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Vista Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 8:55am
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The straws are to support the cake above.  Anything taller than 4 to 6 inches needs to have an internal support system to keep the top from smashing the bottom.  Some people use straws, some use dowels.  The upper layers or tiers are placed on their own cake board and rest on the straws.  The straws need to be cut to the exact height of the cake (with icing) to keep the upper levels from sinking into the bottom or being held above the bottom level.

 

I hope that makes sense.

Cupxcakexqueen Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 9:17am
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that totally makes sense. Thanks Vista :)

AnnieCahill Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 10:21am
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And you're actually referring to a cake which has two or more tiers, not layers.  Layers are within each individual cake.

Cupxcakexqueen Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 11:24am
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Ayeah 2 tiers

leonilyn Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 11:31am
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And you're actually referring to a cake which has two or more tiers, not layers.  Layers are within each individual cake.

From where I am, we call tier "layer" :) when i first learn caking for my son's birthday last year, I am totally confused when I see descriptions like 4 layered cake and I see only one.. :D today, when I quote my clients, I put in my description, tier/layer... :)

AnnieCahill Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 6:06pm
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My mom gets it confused all the time.  I have to draw her a picture to explain it. 

NJsugarmama Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 6:13pm
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ACakes are heavy. My little 6" cake would destroy any cake it sits on without support. The weight of the actual cake, buttercream, ganache, and fondant adds up.

Putting straws in sounds silly, but ya gotta do whatcha gotta do.

AZCouture Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 6:58pm
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Putting straws in sounds silly, but ya gotta do whatcha gotta do.

As opposed to...what?

NJsugarmama Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 7:05pm

AAZ. For folks like the op or people who are not in cake decorating find it SILLY/WEIRD/ODD to have straws in their cake.

Obviously, people who decorate understand why. I use McDonalds straws bc we own 2 stores. The reaction on peoples' faces when I pull of those yellow and red striped straws is kinda funny.

That is what I was talking about...sorry to have confused you.

AZCouture Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 7:07pm

Ah yes, that was not clear. Thanks for explaining that.

NJsugarmama Posted 25 Mar 2013 , 7:09pm

AThe OP said she thought it was weird. Didnt think it needed an explanation.

leonilyn Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 8:49am
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AZ. For folks like the op or people who are not in cake decorating find it SILLY/WEIRD/ODD to have straws in their cake.

Obviously, people who decorate understand why. I use McDonalds straws bc we own 2 stores. The reaction on peoples' faces when I pull of those yellow and red striped straws is kinda funny.

That is what I was talking about...sorry to have confused you.

Does McDonalds uses same straw sizes in all countries? Our McDonalds here are using regular sized straws. Is it sturdy enough to support a cake? Our McDonald straws here are a lot harder than the regular straws though.. Maybe I will use this for my baby's two tiered cake of 6" and 4".. Do you think it is still necessary to have support since 4" round cake is relatively small? :)

Spireite Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 10:00am
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Originally Posted by NJsugarmama 

For folks like the op or people who are not in cake decorating find it SILLY/WEIRD/ODD to have straws in their cake.

Obviously, people who decorate understand why.

I made a caravan cake last week for my Dad's 80th birthday, It was 2 layers of vanilla, and a top layer of chocolate.  It stood a good 4 inches high, so I placed 4 straws inside it.  Then all covered in ganache and sugarpaste (fondant).  It was heavy (weight), so of course jokes ensued from my sisters about the cake being dry and not 'light' !!!!  I was also accused of trying to kill people when it was cut and out came the straws icon_razz.gif ..my Auntie also asked where I had bought it icon_eek.gif 

manddi Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 12:19pm

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I made a caravan cake last week for my Dad's 80th birthday, It was 2 layers of vanilla, and a top layer of chocolate.  It stood a good 4 inches high, so I placed 4 straws inside it.  Then all covered in ganache and sugarpaste (fondant).  It was heavy (weight), so of course jokes ensued from my sisters about the cake being dry and not 'light' !!!!  I was also accused of trying to kill people when it was cut and out came the straws :P  ..my Auntie also asked where I had bought it 8O  

You put straws in a 1 tiered cake? Did I misread this?

Spireite Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 12:40pm
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You put straws in a 1 tiered cake? Did I misread this?

I didn't want it to lean or collapse, so thought to use them to be safe, as it had a 3 hour car journey to my parents', and then another half hour to the venue!  I was probably being over cautious icon_redface.gif

manddi Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 12:47pm

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I didn't want it to lean or collapse, so thought to use them to be safe, as it had a 3 hour car journey to my parents', and then another half hour to the venue!  I was probably being over cautious :oops:

Just a little bit over cautious ;) that many straws are used to support an upper tier. 4 inches shouldn't lean but if you happen to be worried about it (that is a long way for a cake to travel) 1 (but no more than 2) straw(s) would've been sufficient ;)

Better safe than sorry though! :)

Spireite Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 12:53pm
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Just a little bit over cautious icon_wink.gif .
Better safe than sorry though! icon_smile.gif

It's the first themed cake I've done for my own family, and I knew my sisters would take every opportunity to take the 'micky', I was probably stressing too much icon_cool.gif

kikiandkyle Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 12:59pm
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Originally Posted by leonilyn 

Does McDonalds uses same straw sizes in all countries? Our McDonalds here are using regular sized straws. Is it sturdy enough to support a cake? Our McDonald straws here are a lot harder than the regular straws though.. Maybe I will use this for my baby's two tiered cake of 6" and 4".. Do you think it is still necessary to have support since 4" round cake is relatively small? :)

Yes they are the same in almost all countries. Don't ask how I know that icon_redface.gif

 

I did a 4/6 cake for my daughter this year and didn't use any straws, it was red velvet with cream cheese so pretty heavy too. But the cake only stayed in my house, if I'd have been traveling with it I would have. 

NJsugarmama Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 1:22pm

AThey are the same in ALL stores, in all the markets.

I just picked up some of these gigantic straws, it says they are for smoothies, but I imagine they are more likely for bubble tea. When using straws that big, do they take the cake with them when you pull them out?

manddi Posted 4 Apr 2013 , 2:15pm

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They are the same in ALL stores, in all the markets.

I just picked up some of these gigantic straws, it says they are for smoothies, but I imagine they are more likely for bubble tea. When using straws that big, do they take the cake with them when you pull them out?

Just the little bit that's inside the straw

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