ellavanilla Posted 3 Jan 2013 , 8:35pm

I live in California and I just got my home kitchen application today. After a successful soft launch over the holiday season,  I've suddenly got cold feet! What if... What if... What if...

 

I guess I just need a boot in the pants, but my hands are shaking and my mouth is dry.

 

I had to close my biz a few years ago when kitchen rental costs became prohibitive. I guess I'm worried about failure. 

 

*whew*

 

anyway, I'm filling out the papers and diving in. A silent thanks to the lobbyists and legislators in CA who finally got this law passed!

 

Jen

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sweetflowers Posted 3 Jan 2013 , 8:53pm

Read these when you get nervous   http://www.inspirational-quotes.info/failure.html

 

I still have to order my packet, so you're ahead of me!

ATCakes Posted 3 Jan 2013 , 8:54pm

AElla First off congratulations on taking the plunge. It takes a lot of courage. I too am starting my CFB. I got all of my info online. How did you get yours? My county had a flow chart set up on their website so it was easy to follow.

Good luck

ellavanilla Posted 3 Jan 2013 , 9:33pm

Thank you for the encouragement!

 

I am in Orange county. I printed the paperwork. It's not even going to require an inspection. Imagine! 

The website for OC is www.ocfoodinfo.com

 

My stomach is in knots! I'm also changing my pricing since the last time I was in business. No more wasted time on cakes that don't make any money! Minimum orders only! Look out Sprinkles! Here I come!

 

Jen

-K8memphis Posted 3 Jan 2013 , 10:18pm

i've said this recently somewhere so forgive me repeating myself but we have cottage food regulations here and in my county this does not include decorated cake except out in the unincorporated boonies where my friend has a shop

 

decorated cake is under catering and it has a whole ton of requirements--like business zoning

 

anyway

 

it's all about how each locality adjudicates these regulations

 

but there ain't nothing in yours about decorated cake either--doesn't use the word cake

 

i'd recommend that you make a phone call if you haven't already

 

don't hate the messenger

 

cottage food laws pertain to products

 

designed specifically to help growers and people in the region generate tax revenue

 

"

Q: What foods can I produce as a Cottage Food Operation?

A: The list of foods is very specific and maintained by the State of California at

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/Pages/fdbCottageFood.aspx

 

. Only foods found on this list are

permitted to be cottage food products. All cottage food products must be “non-potentially

hazardous”, meaning a food that does not require time or temperature control to limit pathogenic

micro-organism growth or toxin formation

 

. If you are in doubt, please contact Environmental

Health prior to producing and selling the product.

 

Approved Food Products List (January 1, 2013):
(1) Baked goods, without cream, custard, or meat fillings, such as breads, biscuits,
churros, cookies, pastries, and tortillas.
(2) Candy, such as brittle and toffee.
(3) Chocolate-covered nonperishable foods, such as nuts and dried fruits.
(4) Dried fruit.
(5) Dried pasta.
(6) Dry baking mixes.
(7) Fruit pies, fruit empanadas, and fruit tamales.
(8) Granola, cereals, and trail mixes.
(9) Herb blends and dried mole paste.
(10)Honey and sweet sorghum syrup.
(11) Jams, jellies, preserves, and fruit butter that comply with the standard described in
Part 150 of Title 21 of the Code of Federal Regulations. 
*see below
(12) Nut mixes and nut butters.
(13) Popcorn.,
(14) Vinegar and mustard.
(15) Roasted coffee and dried tea.
(16) Waffle cones and pizelles.

-K8memphis Posted 3 Jan 2013 , 10:19pm

great good luck though--hope it happens for all y'all!!!

cakefat Posted 4 Jan 2013 , 12:24am

Aren't you in Tennessee? The OP and other posters are in California, different CFL thus different regulations. ( I would presume).

flower123 Posted 12 Jan 2013 , 4:39pm

How did you get the papers, I am looking on line, but all it shows is info about it on the gov website.

Thanks for any help

Paula
 

BakingIrene Posted 12 Jan 2013 , 4:55pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by ellavanilla 

I live in California and I just got my home kitchen application today. After a successful soft launch over the holiday season,  I've suddenly got cold feet! What if... What if... What if...

 

I guess I just need a boot in the pants, but my hands are shaking and my mouth is dry.

 

I had to close my biz a few years ago when kitchen rental costs became prohibitive. I guess I'm worried about failure. 

 

*whew*

 

anyway, I'm filling out the papers and diving in. A silent thanks to the lobbyists and legislators in CA who finally got this law passed!

 

Jen

Well apart from the regulatory stuff, you might find that working from home is pretty special.  I had to make the switch 5 years ago, and I can tell you that I sure don't miss the commute for an hour to get to a cubicle.

 

Being able to do stuff from home at whatever time of day or night  just makes so much sense--that is a positive motivation to make your new venture succeed.  Just think--you will be able to legally bake at night when it's cool out and when electric rates are the lowest. I get out of bed at 6AM when it's quiet and get all my paperwork done in peace.  And I used to HATE pushing paper.

 

I wish you the best.  You have the skills and you have made it back into the biz so far.

Ducky316 Posted 12 Jan 2013 , 5:06pm

AHappy for you!!!! But I am glad we don't have cottage food laws here in Kansas! One less thing I gotta worry about!

jason_kraft Posted 12 Jan 2013 , 7:10pm

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Original message sent by Ducky316

Happy for you!!!! But I am glad we don't have cottage food laws here in Kansas! One less thing I gotta worry about!

Cottage food laws are actually a good thing for home bakers, without them you cannot legally sell food made at home unless you build a separate commercial kitchen that can pass a health inspection.

Gerle Posted 12 Jan 2013 , 8:09pm

Not that I'm going to do it, but I got the paperwork for the CFO in Sacramento County, and the state paperwork didn't say cakes, but the county paperwork did.  On the Sacramento County Environmental Management website I found a 2 page document that contained basic information.  Listed in approved foods it states "Baked goods such as cakes (without cream), cookies, bread, scones, candies, nuts, granola, etc.  (see California Department of Public Health Approved Cottage Foods list for complete list)."  So if you're in the Sacramento County area, I'd double check with the county to make sure you can bake cakes.  Their office is at the old Mather Air Force Base.....Environmental Health Division, 10590 Armstrong Avenue, Mather, CA 95655-4153, (916) 875-8440, emdinfo@saccounty.net.

 

I even went so far as to get the application and everything, but just for informational purposes.  I wanted to know what was involved in it.  They have it broken down into 2 categories - Class A CFO's are only allowed to engage in "direct sale" of cottage food.  Class B CFO's may engage in both "direct sale" and "indirect sale" of cottage food. To get the permit, Class A costs $107; Class B costs $227.  You can have 1 full-time equivalent employee (not counting family members or household members).  I'm retired and a hobby baker.  Thought about doing this, but decided not to.  I think it's a great idea, though.

jason_kraft Posted 12 Jan 2013 , 9:33pm

AThe master list of approved products for cottage food businesses is maintained by the CA state health dept at the site below, the list on the county application is irrelevant since the state's list is codified in the law. The state does not specifically list cakes but since they are baked goods they qualify as long as they are not potentially hazardous (basically nothing requiring refrigeration).

http://www.cdph.ca.gov/programs/Pages/FoodDrugandRadiationSafetyDivision.aspx

-K8memphis Posted 12 Jan 2013 , 10:07pm

i wish that were the case in shelby county tn

 

i have friends who have received cease and desist letters from the local authorities

 

i would be shocked if the the state of tn ever took action against a caker

 

here they let the locals take care of that

 

and in fact i read through some of ca's rules and i know it said subject to local  rules & reg's somewhere

 

decorated cake is a catered item here-comes under more rigorous rules

 

these things are definitely defined differently from jurisdiction to jurisdiction here in tn

 

no debate--this is meant to be just an additional view of the subject

MsMonica Posted 26 Jan 2013 , 5:07am

Congratulations on taking that leap! I just printed out all the info online to read over the weekend. I'm also thinking of making that leap. A little nerve wracking thinking my clients will not be family getting freebies. My family is easier to please. LOL. Let us know how it goes. I'm in LA County so I'm sure it will differ from your county regulations. Good Luck!thumbs_up.gif

cakefanatic Posted 26 Jan 2013 , 8:38am

AThe FCL passed already in CA, you guys could bake from home now?

MsMonica Posted 26 Jan 2013 , 5:24pm

Yes it did! As of this month!

ellavanilla Posted 27 Jan 2013 , 6:40pm

AI'm writing up a budget and biz plan to build a new kitchen in a different part of the house. My stomach is in knots! But I'M ALSO excited!

The last time I had my sister to handle marketing and my husband handled graphics and websites. This time, i'm divorced and my sister is not in the picture. At times I'm so overwhelmed! But I am going to go against type and stick with it!

MsMonica Posted 28 Jan 2013 , 5:31pm

AOh wow!! The works! That's awesome! Have you checked with your city? In reading the packet for LA County, they ask for a letter from my cities approval. I checked the cities website & they don't allow home based businesses! BOOO!! But I'm not giving up. I'm hoping the website is just out of date & I'll be stopping by my cities planning dept. wish me luck!

-K8memphis Posted 28 Jan 2013 , 6:17pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by MsMonica 

Oh wow!! The works! That's awesome! Have you checked with your city? In reading the packet for LA County, they ask for a letter from my cities approval. I checked the cities website & they don't allow home based businesses! BOOO!! But I'm not giving up. I'm hoping the website is just out of date & I'll be stopping by my cities planning dept. wish me luck!

 

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ellavanilla Posted 28 Jan 2013 , 6:46pm

Thanks for the heads up. I happen to live in an unincorporated part of the county, so it all goes through the county.

DisneyDreamer Posted 18 Feb 2013 , 10:47pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by ellavanilla 

I'm writing up a budget and biz plan to build a new kitchen in a different part of the house. My stomach is in knots! But I'M ALSO excited!

The last time I had my sister to handle marketing and my husband handled graphics and websites. This time, i'm divorced and my sister is not in the picture. At times I'm so overwhelmed! But I am going to go against type and stick with it!

Im in san bernardino county and i filled out my paper work but i wasnt sure if i had to go to my city to see if i could have a business out of my home?

nikki4199 Posted 18 Feb 2013 , 11:22pm

Quote:I am wanting to look into it. I am in sacramento. Where did you find the paperwork. I have looked and could not find it online. Thanks.


 

Originally Posted by Gerle 

Not that I'm going to do it, but I got the paperwork for the CFO in Sacramento County, and the state paperwork didn't say cakes, but the county paperwork did.  On the Sacramento County Environmental Management website I found a 2 page document that contained basic information.  Listed in approved foods it states "Baked goods such as cakes (without cream), cookies, bread, scones, candies, nuts, granola, etc.  (see California Department of Public Health Approved Cottage Foods list for complete list)."  So if you're in the Sacramento County area, I'd double check with the county to make sure you can bake cakes.  Their office is at the old Mather Air Force Base.....Environmental Health Division, 10590 Armstrong Avenue, Mather, CA 95655-4153, (916) 875-8440, emdinfo@saccounty.net.

 

I even went so far as to get the application and everything, but just for informational purposes.  I wanted to know what was involved in it.  They have it broken down into 2 categories - Class A CFO's are only allowed to engage in "direct sale" of cottage food.  Class B CFO's may engage in both "direct sale" and "indirect sale" of cottage food. To get the permit, Class A costs $107; Class B costs $227.  You can have 1 full-time equivalent employee (not counting family members or household members).  I'm retired and a hobby baker.  Thought about doing this, but decided not to.  I think it's a great idea, though.

jason_kraft Posted 19 Feb 2013 , 12:07am

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Original message sent by DisneyDreamer

Im in san bernardino county and i filled out my paper work but i wasnt sure if i had to go to my city to see if i could have a business out of my home?

Generally most cities (or counties if on unincorporated land) will require a business license and zoning approval, this is separate from the cottage food license from the county health dept.

-K8memphis Posted 19 Feb 2013 , 1:46am

the fire marshall & code enforcement might have a word or two also

 

they do here

Sandiego Posted 24 Feb 2013 , 6:07am

AIf you are in San Diego County, you can get alot of info from www.sdcottagefoods.com Even if you are in another county, there will be information that's relevant statewide, and tips that will be useful for establishing and growing your cottage food business anywhere!

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