Things Not To Ask/say To A Baker!

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Sweet_Cakes Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 10:05am
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If businesses use Groupon...is it worth it in the end if it brings so much headache? Your statement kinda turns me off from using things like that when I am able to open my own business...

costumeczar Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 10:39am
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If businesses use Groupon...is it worth it in the end if it brings so much headache? Your statement kinda turns me off from using things like that when I am able to open my own business...

Isn't groupon having financial problems because businesses have stopped using it? Too many complaints from customers and businesses about it. I would skip it entirely, it doesn't bring the solid return business that most people hope it will, from what I' ve heard.

Check out the section under "legal troubles" about the coupon expirations. http://www.forbes.com/sites/deborahljacobs/2013/03/01/firing-ceo-wont-end-groupon-woes/

lunawhisper0013 Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 4:06pm
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Isn't groupon having financial problems because businesses have stopped using it? Too many complaints from customers and businesses about it. I would skip it entirely, it doesn't bring the solid return business that most people hope it will, from what I' ve heard.

Check out the section under "legal troubles" about the coupon expirations. http://www.forbes.com/sites/deborahljacobs/2013/03/01/firing-ceo-wont-end-groupon-woes/

I knew someone who used groupon. It was a real problem. You have to charge 1/2 the going price at least and the company gets 1/2 of that. So you are getting 1/4 of your total but you have to pay taxes on ALL of it. The lady I knew was a massage therapist. She sold I think 200 massages through groupon and with the deal, only got 10 per massage. Each massage is 1 hour long. That's 200 hours of work for $2000. She doesn't take more than 4 clients a day 5 days a week. So she pretty much booked a solid 2-1/2 months for only $2000. And it made her less able to accomidate her full paying clients. It DID double her regular clientel after it was done but those 2-1/2 months were hell.

shanter Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 4:06pm
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Yeah, well they can "entitle" their happy selves to a Walmart cake. We are trying to make a living.. 

 

lunawhisper0013 Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 4:09pm
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LOL! Win of EPIC proportions!

costumeczar Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 4:27pm
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I knew someone who used groupon. It was a real problem. You have to charge 1/2 the going price at least and the company gets 1/2 of that. So you are getting 1/4 of your total but you have to pay taxes on ALL of it. The lady I knew was a massage therapist. She sold I think 200 massages through groupon and with the deal, only got 10 per massage. Each massage is 1 hour long. That's 200 hours of work for $2000. She doesn't take more than 4 clients a day 5 days a week. So she pretty much booked a solid 2-1/2 months for only $2000. And it made her less able to accomidate her full paying clients. It DID double her regular clientel after it was done but those 2-1/2 months were hell.

You have to wonder if doubling her clientele is worth the lost income during that time. I don't think that's the best way to increase your customer base, but groupon wants you to think it is!

kikiandkyle Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 4:45pm
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AI know that not everyone feels this way, but to me Groupon is the sign of troubled times. If you are so desperate for customers that you'll do a groupon, I assume you're going under or about to. Sure I use them, but I'm selective about where. I rarely go back somewhere and pay full price.

costumeczar Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 7:48pm
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I know that not everyone feels this way, but to me Groupon is the sign of troubled times. If you are so desperate for customers that you'll do a groupon, I assume you're going under or about to. Sure I use them, but I'm selective about where. I rarely go back somewhere and pay full price.

I just see it as somethng that people are using to try to build their clientele...But I also kind of feel that businesses who use them are suckers because they're probably losing money on it in the long run.

ellavanilla Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 8:04pm
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my father told me that he's getting tired of my buttercream because it's too rich... *snort*

morganchampagne Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 8:07pm
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AI DON'T DO COUPONS. I know some ppl think its worth it but I just don't like what it seems to attract. Seriously not to offend. But once someone uses a coupon I feel like they are more hesitant to pay full price. They're always waiting for the next one. I cut regular customers a break every now and then.

DeniseNH Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 8:17pm
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What about.  "I just looked on your website and see that you're booked on my wedding day, but can you make my wedding cake???????????  Huh!!???

Sassyzan Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 8:42pm
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I DON'T DO COUPONS. I know some ppl think its worth it but I just don't like what it seems to attract. Seriously not to offend. But once someone uses a coupon I feel like they are more hesitant to pay full price. They're always waiting for the next one. I cut regular customers a break every now and then.

Yep...see the latest debacle at Jc Penney. Thy lowered their prices and eliminated coupons and no one would shop there. Once you introduce coupons, customers defy logic and their own financial interests looking a deal. They don't care about price and value. They want a sale.

shanter Posted 16 Jul 2013 , 10:52pm
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Exactly. If a store raised their prices by 30% and then offered a 30% off coupon, customers would be lined up at the door when they opened.

Sweet_Cakes Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 10:45am
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Exactly. If a store raised their prices by 30% and then offered a 30% off coupon, customers would be lined up at the door when they opened.

Again...what happened to common sense? I know that this is economics 101 but it's just people being too lazy to actually pay attention.

manddi Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 10:47am
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Exactly. If a store raised their prices by 30% and then offered a 30% off coupon, customers would be lined up at the door when they opened.

On the same note, something for $9.99 will sell quicker than something for $10.

Sweet_Cakes Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 11:24am
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On the same note, something for $9.99 will sell quicker than something for $10.

When I worked retail I found this secret out really quickly...I don't understand it...now my mind is programmed to round up. It works when I really want something that I can't afford...all I do is round up and that prevents me from buying it LOL.

manddi Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 11:37am
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When I worked retail I found this secret out really quickly...I don't understand it...now my mind is programmed to round up. It works when I really want something that I can't afford...all I do is round up and that prevents me from buying it LOL.

Ditto! I've even said out loud that item x was $10 and had the salesperson say, "no, it's $9.99."

I usually get a goofy look on my face when someone says that!

thelittlecakery Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 12:22pm
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Jeez, it's like "Hey, I want to buy a Ferrari but I only have enough for a Kia. That's cool, right?"   Sheesh! 

 

Now that is the best thing I have heard in a long time!

as you wish Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 12:26pm
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Ditto! I've even said out loud that item x was $10 and had the salesperson say, "no, it's $9.99."

I usually get a goofy look on my face when someone says that!

Here in Canada where we will no longer have pennies they will still say something is $9.99 but if you give them a ten dollar bill to pay for it you won't get your parry back anymore.

Annabakescakes Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 5:03pm
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When I worked retail I found this secret out really quickly...I don't understand it...now my mind is programmed to round up. It works when I really want something that I can't afford...all I do is round up and that prevents me from buying it LOL.
Ditto!
I've even said out loud that item x was $10 and had the salesperson say, "no, it's $9.99."

I usually get a goofy look on my face when someone says that!

I have had that same thing happen to me many times, and the best way to describe the look on my face is "pity", lol. Pity they are so stupid they can't see it is one cent away from being $10, or pity that they are so dumb, they think I will buy that it is only $9.99. I always round up. even $8.97 is $10 in my head.

Sparklekat6 Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 5:16pm
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Now that is the best thing I have heard in a long time!

OMG,  No one is allowed to complain about paying $4 for a cupcake anymore because they are paying SEVEN for a freaking smores!!!!!!

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/inventor-cronut-created-hybrid-dessert-222943405.html

Norasmom Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 5:33pm
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OMG,  No one is allowed to complain about paying $4 for a cupcake anymore because they are paying SEVEN for a freaking smores!!!!!!

 

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/inventor-cronut-created-hybrid-dessert-222943405.html

I actually think $7 is reasonable for that s'more concoction, given it's hand fired and applewood smoked.  Better that than the $1000 hot fudge sundae that is sold with gold leaf on top (somewhere in Manahattan.  Those dummy Kardashian's eat there.)  Apparently there's some really expensive imported chocolate on top. I'm happy with the normal stuff...it all tastes good to me!  As for edible gold leaf, man, they have quite the mark-up!  What I couldn't do with $1000 besides eat ice cream!  And all the hungry little mouths I could feed, too!!

http://icecreamjournal.turkeyhill.com/index.php/2009/09/03/another-look-at-the-worlds-most-expensive-sundae/

Sparklekat6 Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 5:36pm
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Yeah but you know the amount of work.  The masses don't get it and they can't complain about a $4 cupcake if they are not going to complain about a $7 smores treat.  

kaylawaylalayla Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 6:32pm
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AWho says they aren't complaining?

Sassyzan Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 7:04pm
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AI've made s'mores from scratch. Homemade marshmallows and graham crackers from scratch with ghirardelli chocolate. It was way more work than cupcakes.

Sparklekat6 Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 7:12pm
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You could have stopped at homemade marshmallows and I would have paid 7 bucks no complaints!!

Norasmom Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 7:48pm
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What's interesting to me is how similar the recipe for homemade marshmallows is to homemade fondant...many of the same ingredients!

costumeczar Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 9:57pm
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You could have stopped at homemade marshmallows and I would have paid 7 bucks no complaints!!

ooh, me too.

nutcase68 Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 10:22pm
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On the same note, something for $9.99 will sell quicker than something for $10.

I put my time in retail for 11 years.  There is a reason things go on sale 10 for $10.  People think they have to buy 10 to get the deal.  They cannot figure out they are a buck a piece and only need to buy one.

onceuponacake Posted 17 Jul 2013 , 11:38pm
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AI like when someone picks their design them asks c An I see how nits going to look before i order it? Huh? No

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