Things Not To Ask/say To A Baker!

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MissMona Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 5:37am
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Originally Posted by LoveMeSomeCake615 

OMG, chevron! People always think that's so "simple" to do on a cake, and it's a pain in the butt! 

And please tell me how you do it in buttercream????  Seems to me, even if you did, by the time you got it on, it would be "fondant covered"!!!  I was so frustrated recently by a new customer that refused to allow me to do it in fondant because buttercream is cheaper!!!!!!  I didn't do it.  icon_confused.gif

angelbutler Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 7:29am
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AThe "not too sweet" drives me nuts, but to compensate, I make the cake and filling with less sugar, but leave the buttercream or ganache as is....I need a good surface to work on or hold my fondant up, so that's the way it is ....

costumeczar Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 11:25am
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Originally Posted by MissMona 

And please tell me how you do it in buttercream????  Seems to me, even if you did, by the time you got it on, it would be "fondant covered"!!!  I was so frustrated recently by a new customer that refused to allow me to do it in fondant because buttercream is cheaper!!!!!!  I didn't do it.  icon_confused.gif

I could do it in buttercream icon_wink.gif But it wouldn't be cheaper once you take the time to do it right. I don't know why anyone wants Charlie Brown's shirt on their cake anyway, it's a stupid pattern.

LoveMeSomeCake615 Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by costumeczar 

 I don't know why anyone wants Charlie Brown's shirt on their cake anyway, it's a stupid pattern.

Hahaha! I actually like chevron on a cake, I think it can look really nice. But I don't like how everyone wants it and no one wants to pay for it! icon_wink.gif

JWinslow Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 4:27pm
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Originally Posted by costumeczar 

I could do it in buttercream icon_wink.gif But it wouldn't be cheaper once you take the time to do it right. I don't know why anyone wants Charlie Brown's shirt on their cake anyway, it's a stupid pattern.

Hahaha!  Now, every time I see the chevron pattern, I will think of Charlie Brown.........

Carrie789 Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 5:13pm
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Now, I am curious. How would you do a chevron pattern in buttercream? If you can pipe it, I am in awe of your steady hands.

jenmat Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 5:28pm
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Originally Posted by costumeczar 

I could do it in buttercream icon_wink.gif But it wouldn't be cheaper once you take the time to do it right. I don't know why anyone wants Charlie Brown's shirt on their cake anyway, it's a stupid pattern.

I am in the no chevron camp too. I even admitted it to my cake friends. They were horrified......

costumeczar Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 7:25pm
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Originally Posted by Carrie789 

Now, I am curious. How would you do a chevron pattern in buttercream? If you can pipe it, I am in awe of your steady hands.

I could pipe it but it would be easier to do a couple other ways. Buttercream transfer would be easiest. But still a pain in the hiney.

sarahgale314 Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 8:28pm
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AI would do a chevron in buttercream with a stencil. Put the cake in the freezer to harden the bottom coat and then swipe on the chevron color using a stencil.

Annabakescakes Posted 29 Jun 2013 , 8:42pm
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AIf I had it marked on the cake with a toothpick, or impressed with a cutter, I could pipe it, but it still wouldn't look as good as with fondant, so I probably wouldn't.

But yeah, I'm not into chevron either.

MissMona Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 4:28am
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I had the worst experience today.  Remember the cake I mentioned where the owner of the bed & breakfast told me the wedding was the 28th and then on the evening of the 27th told me it was the 29th?  Well, she asked me to deliver @10am today.  I arrived at 9:45...her husband came into the kitchen and was very angry.  He began telling me the cake needed to go outside (wedding was at noon) and that I shouldn't have delivered until 11.  He was SO angry.  I just said, this is what your wife and I agreed to and it's 9:45.  He said, "I'll go get her!" and as he storm out of the kitchen he bumps into me and knocks me aside!!!!  He didn't say a word and stormed out!  He never even slowed down as he hit me on his way through!  There was plenty of room around me, I really believe he did this on purpose!!!!  

Then, his wife and (I assume) her mother come in the kitchen with him.  They approach the cake from the back side, mother coming in first, she ROLLS HER EYES AND BOBS HER HEAD and says, "THAT'S the CAKE????  What ELSE goes on it????"  I said, "Nothing, this is done exactly as requested by the bride"  The wife confirms that it is exactly as ordered.  They debate on how on earth they are going to carry a two tier cake (6" & 10') out onto the porch.....15 feet away.  I am instructed to leave it in the laundry room on the washer and I get the heck outta there ASAP!  wow.  I have never been done that way before!!!!!  

Have y'all ever been treated so badly???

DeliciousDesserts Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 12:09pm
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AMissMona,

NO business is worth that. I would take a deep breath & compose an email. Be as professional & polite as you can.

Let them know that you don't appreciate their behavior (give specific examples). That you understand they may have been frustrated by unseen situations. That you will not tolerate such behavior in the future. While you appreciate the business they should look elsewhere if this is typically how they treat vendors.

costumeczar Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 12:47pm
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Originally Posted by DeliciousDesserts 

MissMona,

NO business is worth that. I would take a deep breath & compose an email. Be as professional & polite as you can.

Let them know that you don't appreciate their behavior (give specific examples). That you understand they may have been frustrated by unseen situations. That you will not tolerate such behavior in the future. While you appreciate the business they should look elsewhere if this is typically how they treat vendors.

You're nicer than I am, I wouldn't even bother to give them the courtesy, they sound like a bunch of a-holes. Just put them on your no-cake-for-that-venue list. I have a couple of places that I won't deliver to, and if a bride calls and says that's her venue I tell them that I won't deliver there. If they ask why I just say that I've had bad experiencees with them in the past but I don't go into details. Let them wonder...

cakealicious7 Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 12:54pm
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AOMG!!! For the way the husband treated you I would have got the police involved, i know its drastic but I would have done it for a scare. People can't go around treating other's that way : (((

Godot Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 1:00pm
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OMG! That is surreal the way those people treated you. Let's hope they treat their clients better than that!

MissMona Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 4:49pm
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AI agree completely with each of you. I just have to figure out which way to deal with it. Costumeczar, the Really odd thing about this was that I never had any contact with the bride at all. I've never worked like this before. The owner (wife) sent a photo and a list of details (flavors, colors, flowers etc) It's very strange to me but I assume any future weddings there will be handled the same way, Through the owner. I don't think I want to do business there in the future. It doesn't seem Worth it to me at all.

carmijok Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 5:11pm
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Originally Posted by DeliciousDesserts 

MissMona,

NO business is worth that. I would take a deep breath & compose an email. Be as professional & polite as you can.

Let them know that you don't appreciate their behavior (give specific examples). That you understand they may have been frustrated by unseen situations. That you will not tolerate such behavior in the future. While you appreciate the business they should look elsewhere if this is typically how they treat vendors.


What she said!  Wow. 

Carrie789 Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 5:27pm
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Wow. What a way to run a business! And, I would guess they charged the bride a premium over what they paid you for the cake.

JWinslow Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 7:28pm
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I'm so sorry you had to be subjected to a bully like that.  I like  DeliciousDesserts advice but also costumeczar - Into the No cake for you column!  Leave it on the washer, indeed!

AZCouture Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 7:33pm
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Originally Posted by costumeczar 

I could do it in buttercream icon_wink.gif But it wouldn't be cheaper once you take the time to do it right. I don't know why anyone wants Charlie Brown's shirt on their cake anyway, it's a stupid pattern.

That is exactly what ran through my head the first time I did that. It was even yellow! At least the other color wasn't black, but still!

MissMona Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 8:24pm
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I should share with you all the last part of the "story" from yesterday.  I am still shook up and unsure of how to deal with what happened to me at this venue....but I wanted to at least know that things went well with the cake......so last night at 9pm I sent the following email and have so far gotten no response:

 

 
Hello, 
As this day comes to a close I would like to follow up with you on the wedding today. How was the cake received by the bride and groom?  Did everything go well today?  Because your husband was so upset with us for our early arrival I wanted to be sure everything went well afterwards. 
 
I realize now that I do not even know the bride or grooms names.  Huh.  I've never let this happen before.  

AllaMarie Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 8:30pm
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A[Quote]"MissMona" url="/t/751860/things-not-to-ask-say-to-a-baker/1440#post_7409773"]I had the worst experience today.  Remember the cake I mentioned where the owner of the bed & breakfast told me the wedding was the 28th and then on the evening of the 27th told me it was the 29th?  Well, she asked me to deliver @10am today.  I arrived at 9:45...her husband came into the kitchen and was very angry.  He began telling me the cake needed to go outside (wedding was at noon) and that I shouldn't have delivered until 11.  He was SO angry.  I just said, this is what your wife and I agreed to and it's 9:45.  He said, "I'll go get her!" and as he storm out of the kitchen he bumps into me and knocks me aside!!!!  He didn't say a word and stormed out!  He never even slowed down as he hit me on his way through!  There was plenty of room around me, I really believe he did this on purpose!!!!   Then, his wife and (I assume) her mother come in the kitchen with him.  They approach the cake from the back side, mother coming in first, she ROLLS HER EYES AND BOBS HER HEAD and says, "THAT'S the CAKE????  What ELSE goes on it????"  I said, "Nothing, this is done exactly as requested by the bride"  The wife confirms that it is exactly as ordered.  They debate on how on earth they are going to carry a two tier cake (6" & 10') out onto the porch.....15 feet away.  I am instructed to leave it in the laundry room on the washer and I get the heck outta there ASAP!  wow.  I have never been done that way before!!!!!   Have y'all ever been treated so badly??? [/quote]

That is soooo wrong! Some people are soo heartless!! Luckily their are more appreciative customers than un appreciative.

End of May I had a graduation cake with a letterman jacket hat and football. I was up all night making it slept for 15 minutes. I sent her pictures and left to my daughters kindergarten graduation. (Pickup at none)She txted me back and said it was not what sne wanted. That she wanted it EXACTLY like the picture she sent me. (In that case she should of contacted that baker.) She asked me what I could do to fix it. Well nothing.. I was pleased with what I did and didnt see that it needed to be fixed. She said "well I guess I will take it since I have no other choice". I took a breath (trying not to cry at my daughters graduation over this) and refused to give to her. I told her I would not let her take and bash my cake infront of all her dinner guest. So I stood there and looked at the caKe when I got home and decided to GIVE it to one of my friends who was also graduation. She offered to pay but I gave it as a gift because I knew it would be appriciated. So here are the before and after it worked out perfectly! [IMG]http://cakecentral.com/content/type/61/id/3045419/width/200/height/400[/IMG]

She showed pigs in highschool :)

After this incident everyone told me that she is the type that is NEVER happy and doesnt appreciate anything. Wow thanks for telking me now lol!

AllaMarie Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 8:59pm
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AAnd also I didnt keep any of the first ladies money.

MissMona Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 9:24pm
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AllaMarie, I love that you did that.  I think if, when these people throw the Diva fit, complaining over nothing, if someone stood up to them and simply said NO, you aren't going to do that to me, they might think twice in the future about lying.  Good job!

costumeczar Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 9:31pm
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Originally Posted by MissMona 

I agree completely with each of you. I just have to figure out which way to deal with it. Costumeczar, the
Really odd thing about this was that I never had any contact with the bride at all.
I've never worked like this before. The owner (wife) sent a photo and a list of details (flavors, colors, flowers etc)
It's very strange to me but I assume any future weddings there will be handled the same way,
Through the owner. I don't think I want to do business there in the future. It doesn't seem
Worth it to me at all.

Aha! Well, I guarantee that what was happening, then, was that the venue offered the bride a package deal, where they take care of everything for one flat fee. They would then charge her more for each item than they're paying the vendors, so they're making money on each transaction. If they told the bride that she's paying $600 for the cake, they're only going to pay you $400 for it. You don't know the difference and neither does the bride, but they're pocketing the balance.

Annabakescakes Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by AllaMarie 

Quote:
"MissMona" url="/t/751860/things-not-to-ask-say-to-a-baker/1440#post_7409773"]I had the worst experience today.  Remember the cake I mentioned where the owner of the bed & breakfast told me the wedding was the 28th and then on the evening of the 27th told me it was the 29th?  Well, she asked me to deliver @10am today.  I arrived at 9:45...her husband came into the kitchen and was very angry.  He began telling me the cake needed to go outside (wedding was at noon) and that I shouldn't have delivered until 11.  He was SO angry.  I just said, this is what your wife and I agreed to and it's 9:45.  He said, "I'll go get her!" and as he storm out of the kitchen he bumps into me and knocks me aside!!!!  He didn't say a word and stormed out!  He never even slowed down as he hit me on his way through!  There was plenty of room around me, I really believe he did this on purpose!!!!  
Then, his wife and (I assume) her mother come in the kitchen with him.  They approach the cake from the back side, mother coming in first, she ROLLS HER EYES AND BOBS HER HEAD and says, "THAT'S the CAKE????  What ELSE goes on it????"  I said, "Nothing, this is done exactly as requested by the bride"  The wife confirms that it is exactly as ordered.  They debate on how on earth they are going to carry a two tier cake (6" & 10') out onto the porch.....15 feet away.  I am instructed to leave it in the laundry room on the washer and I get the heck outta there ASAP!  wow.  I have never been done that way before!!!!!  
Have y'all ever been treated so badly???

That is soooo wrong! Some people are soo heartless!! Luckily their are more appreciative customers than un appreciative.

End of May I had a graduation cake with a letterman jacket hat and football. I was up all night making it slept for 15 minutes. I sent her pictures and left to my daughters kindergarten graduation. (Pickup at none)She txted me back and said it was not what sne wanted. That she wanted it EXACTLY like the picture she sent me. (In that case she should of contacted that baker.) She asked me what I could do to fix it. Well nothing.. I was pleased with what I did and didnt see that it needed to be fixed. She said "well I guess I will take it since I have no other choice". I took a breath (trying not to cry at my daughters graduation over this) and refused to give to her. I told her I would not let her take and bash my cake infront of all her dinner guest. So I stood there and looked at the caKe when I got home and decided to GIVE it to one of my friends who was also graduation. She offered to pay but I gave it as a gift because I knew it would be appriciated. So here are the before and after it worked out perfectly!


She showed pigs in highschool icon_smile.gif

After this incident everyone told me that she is the type that is NEVER happy and doesnt appreciate anything. Wow thanks for telking me now lol!

I am so glad you did that! I hope she learns her lesson! I am sure she was happy with it, how could she not be? She probably just wanted money taken off, of for you to give it to her. I hate it when these idiots get their way because other idiots let them. It rewards bad behavior and  perpetuates it.

 

 It is great, and I love how you turned the pig-skin into an actual pig ;-) that is adorable, and SO creative. You are a natural! You'll go places ;-)

kaylawaylalayla Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 11:59pm
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AWhat was the original pocture? That one looks great

hbquikcomjamesl Posted 1 Jul 2013 , 4:10am
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Just thought of another way to do a chevron without fondant: edible printing media.


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kaylawaylalayla Posted 1 Jul 2013 , 4:37am
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AOr air brush

Annabakescakes Posted 1 Jul 2013 , 4:42am
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A

Original message sent by hbquikcomjamesl

Just thought of another way to do a chevron without fondant: edible printing media.

Wow: this thread just broke 100 pages.

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