SugaredSaffron Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 2:15pm
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I had to get rid of my old website because I had no clue how to edit it and there were loads of little things I didn't like about it. This new ones done in wordpress, opinions please?

www.sugaredsaffron.co.uk

And does the gallery work for you because its only showing some pics up for me but on the laptop its fine :S

Thank you!

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LKing12 Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 2:38pm
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I tried to use WordPress, but no one could tell me how. I need a step by step tutorial. I used a different site.
Yours looks great!

ibeeflower Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 2:53pm
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Your website looks lovely and super sweet. I can access the gallery but for some reason the pics were loading horribly low on my computer. It may be just my computer not wanting to cooperate today. We use Wordpress at work too. It's pretty nifty but we did have someone do it for us and we just maintain it now.

Great job!

mclaren Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 3:00pm
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I checked your new website out and your cakes are amazing, and yes, I could see all the 22 pictures on the Gallery page.

SugaredSaffron Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 4:12pm
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Thanks guys. I found some tutorials on youtube and bought a theme online. I need step by step as well, I don't understand code apart from very basic html from school. Like how to bold words lol

Maybe the photos are too high of a resolution? I will have try to resize them and add them again.

Apti Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 5:11pm
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Beautiful, professional website! You are definitely giving the best possible "first impression" to capture the interest (and $$$) of potential customers. The photography is stunning. This website would make me want to taste the cakes you provide!

I have a high speed computer and all of the photos came up, but they seemed to load slowly. Not SUPER-slow, just slower than I would prefer if I were looking at the site for ideas. When I clicked on a specific gallery photo to get a larger view, that also took a while.

Everything looked great except for this sentence which seems awkward grammatically:

Note that serving suggestions based on the traditional finger portion; this is 1x1x5 inches, for our cakes. For dessert portions, please divide by two.

Perhaps a re-wording similar to this?
"NOTE: The number of servings shown above are based on the traditional finger portion: 1x1x5 inches.
For larger dessert servings, please divide the number of suggested servings in half.

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In the USA, the "traditional" (industry standard) wedding serving, is 1 in. x 2 in. 4". [The cakes are usually two, 2" high layers with filling, which results in a 4" high tier, and are made with a sponge-type recipe.] This is twice as large as a "finger serving". I had no idea that finger servings were standard for UK weddings. Is that because many weddings in the UK utilize a dense, rich fruit cake instead of the American sponge-type cake?

SugaredSaffron Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 5:27pm
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Thanks Apti, I'll try and reduce the photo sizes, if that doesn't work there's a support forum I can get some help on.

Hope you don't mind me swiping the sentence btw.

I think the finger portion has just been adopted from the fruit cake. Fruit cake has a bit of an 'uncool' reputation. Its supposed to be a finger portion of fruit, and dessert portion of sponge but in the end its the venue's who cut the cake and they tend to cut it all the same. Even though it seems small, its the norm here to have this size slice. And a lot of UK'ers do 3 layers of cake and 2 layers of filling, so cakes are even shorter.

I made a wedding cake once and used the american standard, hardly anyone finished their cake. I think its just too much after a meal. You guys like everything bigger icon_lol.gif .

This is a Australian site and she's got a finger next to a dessert portion. I don't know if they auzzies to fp over there as well. http://cakeavenue.com.au/portionguide.html

Apti Posted 24 Aug 2012 , 8:50pm
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You are most welcome to the sentence!

Thanks for the explanation and the link to the Auzzie pic. This is the first time I've come across "finger" portions that are 1x1x5". On the forum you occasionally read about venues that whack out huge pieces and greatly diminish the number of expected servings. I'm pretty sure American wedding guests would be appalled to receive a "finger" slice. (Most of them think the "dessert" slices are too small!)

I'll share a link to a diagram from the Lark Cake Shoppe that I often use when cake people are asking about servings sizes. You'll see a large range of "acceptable" servings sizes:

http://larkcakeshop.com/CakeServeGuide2.pdf

Compare the 10" rounds. On the Auzzie site, these serve 65 coffee/30 dessert servings

on the American chart: 12 Very Generous servings, 25 "sensible" (or "Party") servings, and 39 "event" (or" Wedding") servings.

The Wilton Wedding Cake guide is the standard serving guide for pricing in the USA. Here's a link to that chart which shows 38 Wedding servings per 10" round cake. (Assumptions are that cakes are 4" tall):

http://www.wilton.com/cakes/making-cakes/baking-wedding-cake-2-inch-pans.cfm

Apparently, your "dessert" servings are very close to our standard Wedding serving sizes. (But we'd NEVER get away with that "finger" size!)

I think your website is absolutely stunning and provides the perfect online image of an upscale cake artist. I am an admirer of Amy Atlas here in the States and your work looks perfect just like her photographs.

Momy2Boys Posted 25 Aug 2012 , 12:25am
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Your website looks beautiful! All 22 photos loaded quickly on my iPad.

lissyUK Posted 25 Aug 2012 , 8:39pm

i love your site. Love it. in fact, love your work full stop!

m_mckinney1 Posted 25 Aug 2012 , 10:47pm

When you re-load the photos in smaller resolution to increase the speed, may I suggest that you watermark them? So much photo theft occurs these days that you must protect yourself & consumers who are falsely led by such thieves.

mcaulir Posted 25 Aug 2012 , 11:32pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Apti

You are most welcome to the sentence!

Thanks for the explanation and the link to the Auzzie pic. This is the first time I've come across "finger" portions that are 1x1x5". On the forum you occasionally read about venues that whack out huge pieces and greatly diminish the number of expected servings. I'm pretty sure American wedding guests would be appalled to receive a "finger" slice. (Most of them think the "dessert" slices are too small!)

I'll share a link to a diagram from the Lark Cake Shoppe that I often use when cake people are asking about servings sizes. You'll see a large range of "acceptable" servings sizes:

http://larkcakeshop.com/CakeServeGuide2.pdf

Compare the 10" rounds. On the Auzzie site, these serve 65 coffee/30 dessert servings

on the American chart: 12 Very Generous servings, 25 "sensible" (or "Party") servings, and 39 "event" (or" Wedding") servings.

The Wilton Wedding Cake guide is the standard serving guide for pricing in the USA. Here's a link to that chart which shows 38 Wedding servings per 10" round cake. (Assumptions are that cakes are 4" tall):

http://www.wilton.com/cakes/making-cakes/baking-wedding-cake-2-inch-pans.cfm

Apparently, your "dessert" servings are very close to our standard Wedding serving sizes. (But we'd NEVER get away with that "finger" size!)

I think your website is absolutely stunning and provides the perfect online image of an upscale cake artist. I am an admirer of Amy Atlas here in the States and your work looks perfect just like her photographs.




I wonder if it's partly because cake here is mostly seen as a smallish treat to take home, rather than the dessert at the end of the meal. Usually at weddings, another dessert is served: cheesecake, lemon tart, pavlova etc, and cake is soetimes placed in bags to take home.

CWR41 Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 1:26am

Looks nice. During your next update, you may want to make these corrections:

We're a home based cake boutique,
We're a home-based cake boutique,

We offer wedding cakes, cupcakes, cake pops, iced biscuits and
We offer wedding cakes, cupcakes, cake pops, iced biscuits, and

Our cakes are torted into four layers, filled, and then covered in white, milk or dark
Our cakes are torted into four layers, filled, and then covered in white, milk, or dark

We do all this because we know that a good looking cake that tastes so-so
We do all this because we know that a good-looking cake that tastes so-so

We make an Italian meringue base, with vanilla bean and free range egg whites.
We make an Italian meringue base with vanilla bean and free-range egg whites.

Its a lot more work, but we think you guys are worth it.
Its a lot more work, but we think you guys are worth it.

Coffee italian meringue buttercream
Coffee Italian meringue buttercream

Chocolate ganache (dark, milk or white)
Chocolate ganache (dark, milk, or white)

Unfortunately although none of our recipes contain nuts we cannot guarantee a nut free environment.
Unfortunately, although none of our recipes contain nuts, we cannot guarantee a nut-free environment.

All of our products are suitable for vegetarians, extract and alcohol free and are therefore Halal.
All of our products are suitable for vegetarians, extract and alcohol free, and are therefore Halal.
OR
All of our products are suitable for vegetarians (extract and alcohol free), and are therefore Halal.

We frequently use Organic ingredients such as butter and chocolate,  however if you would
We frequently use organic ingredients such as butter and chocolate, however, if you would

Its important to get the right size cake for your wedding.
Its important to get the right size cake for your wedding.

and a 2 tier in grand hall with 200 guests would be out of place.
and a two tier in a grand hall with 200 guests would be out of place.

See are serving chart below for an estimation on cake sizes and their servings.
See our serving chart below for an estimation on cake sizes and their servings.

Theyre baked with the same care and attention as all of our cakes, and are topped with the same delicious buttercream. With the addition of cute sprinkles of course.
Theyre baked with the same care and attention as all of our cakes, and are topped with the same delicious buttercream with the addition of cute sprinkles, of course.
OR
Theyre baked with the same care and attention as all of our cakes, and are topped with the same delicious butter cream (with the addition of cute sprinkles, of course).

Banoffee A fluffy banana cupcake filled with our homemade caramel sauce topped with a chocolate ganache.
Banoffee A fluffy banana cupcake, filled with our homemade caramel sauce, topped with a chocolate ganache.

You dont need to stick to Vanilla, try surprising your guests
You dont need to stick to vanilla try surprising your guests

Please take a look at out Gallery to see the tables weve designed.
Please take a look at our Gallery to see the tables weve designed.
 
and they can be even be personalised for each wedding guest.
and they can even be personalised for each wedding guest.
  
We can add sprinkles, flowers, and even piped detail.Individual
We can add sprinkles, flowers, and even piped detail. Individual

Dont forget to include the date of the wedding/event, the confirmed venue, any colour schemes
Dont forget to include the date of the wedding/event, the confirmed venue, and any colour schemes

Check out the latest news, cakes, delicious photos and foodie updates on the blog.
Check out the latest news, cakes, delicious photos, and foodie updates on the blog.

SugaredSaffron Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 9:13am

Thanks for all the compliments, I really appreciate them.

Thanks CWR41 - I've made all the changes. Just out of curiosity did you read every page and make those corrections yourself? icon_biggrin.gif

m_mckinney1- I haven't resized the photos yet but I have thought about watermarking but I don't really see that so much on websites, just on fb/flickr etc.

mcaulir Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 9:50am
Quote:
Originally Posted by CWR41

Looks nice. During your next update, you may want to make these corrections:

We offer wedding cakes, cupcakes, cake pops, iced biscuits and
We offer wedding cakes, cupcakes, cake pops, iced biscuits, and

Our cakes are torted into four layers, filled, and then covered in white, milk or dark
Our cakes are torted into four layers, filled, and then covered in white, milk, or dark

Chocolate ganache (dark, milk or white)
Chocolate ganache (dark, milk, or white)

Check out the latest news, cakes, delicious photos and foodie updates on the blog.
Check out the latest news, cakes, delicious photos, and foodie updates on the blog.




I have to disagree that these commas are necessary. Oxford commas aren't in accepted use everywhere.

SugaredSaffron Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 10:27am

You're right mcaulir, I think I'll change them back to how they were.

BakingIrene Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 3:26pm

Before you go to watermark your photos, you need to deal with the ones that show somebody else's copyright.

Your gallery should ONLY include cakes that you yourself made.

A separate page for "examples of work that can be considered" is the way to display somebody else's copyrighted designs/photos. I don't know what your local laws say but you need to show some respect for the general idea that you can't call them "your" cakes.

CWR41 Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 4:18pm
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Originally Posted by SugaredSaffron

Thanks CWR41 - I've made all the changes. Just out of curiosity did you read every page and make those corrections yourself? icon_biggrin.gif



Yes and yes.

CWR41 Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 4:25pm
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Originally Posted by mcaulir

I have to disagree that these commas are necessary. Oxford commas aren't in accepted use everywhere.




It's best to be in the habit of using "comma and" to remove any confusion or doubt to what the author intended to convey, especially for business and legal.

Regarding comma and; to be used when three or more items are listed in a series. Place a comma before the and preceding the last item. (Although this is optional today, it should be added for business and legal reasons.)
As an example, think of it this way: If you were disarming a device and the instructions say to cut the orange, yellow, black and red wires, it means there are three wires to cut because black and red would most likely refer to one wire that is a combination of both colors. If the instructions said to cut the orange, yellow, black, and red wires, it means there are four wires.

In another example: If my last will and testament states that my estate is to be divided equally between the children of my marriage, John, Mary and Ruth, John would receive 50%, and Mary and Ruth would share 50%, not only because the extra comma was omitted, but also because of the keyword between meaning two. If this wasnt my intended wish, I should have written ...divided equally amongst the children of the marriage, John, Mary, and Ruth, so that they all receive one third of my estate. (This conveys the importance of using "comma and" for business and legal reasons!)

paulstonia Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 6:20pm

wouldn't it be: orange, yellow, and black and red wire. If it were three wires?

SugaredSaffron Posted 26 Aug 2012 , 10:58pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by BakingIrene

Before you go to watermark your photos, you need to deal with the ones that show somebody else's copyright.

Your gallery should ONLY include cakes that you yourself made.

A separate page for "examples of work that can be considered" is the way to display somebody else's copyrighted designs/photos. I don't know what your local laws say but you need to show some respect for the general idea that you can't call them "your" cakes.




Pardon me? I haven't quite firgured out how to add text yet, I need to actually add the photographer/stylist etc to some of the photos, but could you kindly let me know which of the photos on my site don't belong to me or have sonebody else's watermark on them.

m_mckinney1 Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 1:20am

I may be wrong, but I believe BakingIrene is probably referring to the slideshow on your homepage which has the copyright attributed to the photographer. While the photographer does own the copyright, if they have given you permission to use the photos & they are your cakes then you are fine in using them.

BakingIrene Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 3:46am
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Originally Posted by m_mckinney1

I may be wrong, but I believe BakingIrene is probably referring to the slideshow on your homepage which has the copyright attributed to the photographer. While the photographer does own the copyright, if they have given you permission to use the photos & they are your cakes then you are fine in using them.




It's not the homepage, there is a cake in the gallery with a carter hewson website listed on it. Edit that out.

SugaredSaffron Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 4:51am

Your presumptuous reply was bordering on rude. Of course that is MY cake, I have the same one in my cake-central gallery icon_rolleyes.gif

And a quick google would show that Carter Hewson is in fact a wedding photographer, not a cake decorator. So yes, I have permission to use his photo of my work, hence the watermark.

mcaulir Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 10:27am
Quote:
Originally Posted by CWR41

Quote:
Originally Posted by mcaulir

I have to disagree that these commas are necessary. Oxford commas aren't in accepted use everywhere.



It's best to be in the habit of using "comma and" to remove any confusion or doubt to what the author intended to convey, especially for business and legal.

Regarding comma and; to be used when three or more items are listed in a series. Place a comma before the and preceding the last item. (Although this is optional today, it should be added for business and legal reasons.)
As an example, think of it this way: If you were disarming a device and the instructions say to cut the orange, yellow, black and red wires, it means there are three wires to cut because black and red would most likely refer to one wire that is a combination of both colors. If the instructions said to cut the orange, yellow, black, and red wires, it means there are four wires.

In another example: If my last will and testament states that my estate is to be divided equally between the children of my marriage, John, Mary and Ruth, John would receive 50%, and Mary and Ruth would share 50%, not only because the extra comma was omitted, but also because of the keyword between meaning two. If this wasnt my intended wish, I should have written ...divided equally amongst the children of the marriage, John, Mary, and Ruth, so that they all receive one third of my estate. (This conveys the importance of using "comma and" for business and legal reasons!)




I definitely see what you mean in these examples, and agree that they're very important to convey meaning in some cases.

'White, milk or dark chocolate' isn't unclear, though. I doubt there would be anyone who didn't understand that there was three options there. This isn't writing for a legal contract, and excess commas make things look cluttered, I think. I don't think they're wrong; just unnecessary in this case.

SanDiegoBeautifulCakes Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 3:19pm

All of your greaphic files are way too large in size. There are multiples that are over 4MB in size and one that is over 5MB in size. That is way, way too large. There are some that are even 600KB in size, even that is too large for what you are showing on a website. All 20 of the file together should add up too about 600KB. Currently all 20 greaphic files that you have listed in your slide, is well over 20MB. Our website total is not near 20MB and we have a little over 600 images and about 200 pages. That is just totally not acceptable for a website. They are only a small image. But you have adjusted the size of the image by html code, not by resizing the actual image file. That is not at all the way to code a website.

You should have two files for each and every graphic in the slideshow, a very small sized file for the slide, and a normal large file for the show.

Also, I noticed that you are using the file domain path in all your images and links. You should use a direct path statement. Everytime that the web server comes across that path, It goes all the way out to the first DNS server to look up domain name, and it sees that the IP Address is on the webserver that it just left. That takes a lot of time to do that. Where if you use direct path statements, you will have a hyge increase in speed. Plus, if that DNS server is busy, you must wait in line to get back into the webserver that you just left. Do not go off the webserver to call your own we pages.

SugaredSaffron Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 3:27pm

Hehe, sorry my website is totally unacceptable icon_lol.gif

I'm sorry I have no idea what DNS, direct path statements and the other technical stuff your talking about means, I didn't code the site. I used wordpress. I haven't had a chance to re-size the photos yet, but I've got that. I tried to go on your website but just a loading bar comes up.

SanDiegoBeautifulCakes Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 3:43pm

Another thing that came to mind were your file names. They are awful. Make the file name as sort as possible, while still describing the content. If you do the math on the amount of data that the server and the network is actually moving, you see a huge increase in speed when the network does not have as much data to move. Also make your directory names small. Instead of the name "Images" or "Graphics" use "i" that simple directory name will save you over 8MB in network traffice on only one website on one webserver when viewing that site by only one person if you have only 100 images. The word "images" or "graphics" have to be transported as part of the path tothe file when the file is requested.

And a web server can and usually does have thousands of websites per server. So there is no need at all to make the server, the routers, switches and the network do all that extra work for no reason.

Do not include the file dimension size as part of the file name. Do not use hyphens in the name. Some routers that data passes thru do not allow a hyphen in a file name, or the hyphen means soeting different. Especially if you are using a database backend on your site. There are naming conventions for websites for a reason. I use numeric values for my graphic name, they are all stored in the database, so I really don't care about an actual name. The path to the file is stored in the database as well. The file name is the ID of the row. Nice and small name.

SugaredSaffron Posted 27 Aug 2012 , 3:49pm

icon_eek.gif Word.Press

SugaredSaffron Posted 28 Aug 2012 , 9:24am

I resized all the gallery pics, now they all come up way faster.

Thanks to those who helped icon_biggrin.gif

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