mudderteresa Posted 25 Jun 2012 , 11:37pm
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hi everyone can someone give me some advice please i am semi new and a girl at church wants a 4 tier cake 12, 10,8,6 with red cornelli lace and matching red ribbon. all buttercream. i'm at the point now that i'm tired of not making any profit but i feel bad for charging too much..... do yall think that 300 is a reasonable price?Should i lower to 280 ? i'm so confused! thanks in advance!

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spring Posted 25 Jun 2012 , 11:59pm
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How much profit will you make if you sell the cake for $300?

I am not my customer. My customer will pay much more for our cake than I would...just saying.

Minette

MJbakes Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 12:11am
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I think you could go higher. I actually created a post about a week ago because I got an order for a 3 tier fondant covered grad cake. I orginally wanted to charge her $175. Put some were saying they it was way too low, and some said they would start at $300. I ended up charging her $225. I was happy with what I charged her and so was she. I made enough to cover costs of supplies, utilities, clean up and profit.

Those 4 tiers would give you 130 servings using the Wilton chart, so my price would start at around $450. But it all depends on your area and your price of goods and what you think your labor is worth icon_smile.gif

Good luck!

mudderteresa Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 1:00am
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thank yall so much it costs me 75 to make and i think i feel good about charging 250...so what 175 profit...

PinkLotus Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 2:29am
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It's not necessarily 175 straight profit, because your time and labor is worth something as well.

jason_kraft Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 2:29am
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Make sure to take into account the cost of your time and overhead costs (licensing fees, commercial liability insurance, utilities, etc.)

carmijok Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 2:56am
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Are you even ready to do a cake of that size and magnitude? I looked at your gallery and I only saw a couple of small 2-tier cakes among a few other layer cakes!

A 4-tier cake with those sizes is a BIG heavy cake. Have you considered the structure involved? Do you know how long it will take you to do this cake? Because believe me, it will take twice as long as you think it will...and a lot more costs to account for than you realize.

Apti Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 3:13am
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Are you even ready to do a cake of that size and magnitude? I looked at your gallery and I only saw a couple of small 2-tier cakes among a few other layer cakes.

A 4-tier cake with those sizes is a BIG heavy cake. Have you considered the structure involved? Do you know how long it will take you to do this cake? Because believe me, it will take twice as long as you think it will...and a lot more costs to account for than you realize.




I agree 100%. I am a hobby baker, but have done about six 3-4 tier cakes and one large cake project with 4 cakes (12/10/8/6) on separate stands. I keep thinking I'll get "faster" since I make mistakes (er....have opportunities to learn....) on each project.

I just did this cake (as a gift) for a stranger. (Long story.....my unlicensed hobby version of an Icing Smiles cake.). This sucker took me about 20-30 hours, cost about $50, and I STILL screwed up on the middle tier. [The middle tier was white cake and by the time I torted and filled with raspberry and lemon, it got fat and squishy and unstable and barely held together under the fondant. That is why it is "rounded" and the cake is leaning.]

This was a very important cake for this young person, so I soldiered on and did the best I could. Even with all my classes and practice and tools and ingredients, it STILL was messed up (albeit acceptable).

I strongly suggest you do a practice 4 tier before making a promise and/or commitment. (I jokingly told my family that if I was charging for this cake, I would charge $10,000 because it was so aggravating!)
LL

Pearl645 Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 3:16am
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Wow that is really "a great price"! 4 tier cakes in my country are sold for the equivalent of $620 - $775US. Make sure you make something back or you will regret it as midnight and 2 am approach.

cai0311 Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 4:22am

Invest in Cake Boss software to help with pricing.

mudderteresa Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 11:31am

thanks so much to everyone..i definitely am ready to do this cake, my photos were the ones i did a year ago i have not posted since,, i have done a 3 tier several times including a 50th anniversary. i am very confident that i can do it, just don't wanna over charge...thanks so so much to everyone

Apti Posted 26 Jun 2012 , 6:16pm
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Originally Posted by mudderteresa

thanks so much to everyone..i definitely am ready to do this cake, my photos were the ones i did a year ago i have not posted since,, i have done a 3 tier several times including a 50th anniversary. i am very confident that i can do it, just don't wanna over charge...thanks so so much to everyone




Cool! Charge the moon! For a well-done 12/10/8/6 the minimum should be $300. (And this time, we want to see CURRENT photos! ok?)

Good luck.

CupcakeQT82 Posted 27 Jun 2012 , 2:32pm

$300 seems cheap! I am doing a 3-tier wedding soon and it's going to be around $300 total. And I know my price is lower.

Pearl645 Posted 27 Jun 2012 , 4:23pm

Yes it does seem cheap. 3 tier cakes in my country go for $500 US on average.

josilind Posted 27 Jun 2012 , 11:50pm

Have you tried calling your local bakeries and checking to see how much they charge per slice? How much they charge for buttercream icing orders and how much they charge for fondant orders?

Where I live, depending on which part of the city you live, a cake can cost 2.50 a slice and on another part of town the bakeries there are 5.00 or 7.00 a slice.

If you do that , then it would be easier in the future to calculate your cake prices.

Then any add ons / accessories like ribbon, dowel rods, support systems, figurines, flowers, etc., you can charge at face value.

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