Seashell48 Posted 10 Jun 2012 , 1:15am
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Does anyone here use Sugar Veil? I purchased the whole thing, the powder, the mat, the comb, everything it looked so nice and fairly easy to use on their video. Spent a lot of money and after a year trying to use it with different ideas from their site, it does not work, either so stiff that breaks or to soft that sticks to the mat. I am really upset to have waisted all that money in something that does not work.

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sweettreat101 Posted 10 Jun 2012 , 9:43am
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I was planning on ordering the Sugarveil icing and using a silicone mold. I would never spend that much money on the machine since you are supposed to be able to use decorating bags and tips. I plan on buying the 2 oz Squeezit Mold Painter Bottles Pk/2 you can use cake tips with these bottles. I hope it works. I figured I could make the decorations ahead of time for a large cake I have due in a couple of months. If anyone has had success with Sugarveil please let us know. Any tips greatly appreciated.

BakingIrene Posted 10 Jun 2012 , 1:41pm
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If it makes you feel better, Buddy Valastro had the same problem with Sugarveil for his own anniversary cake.

The solution they came up with shown on TV was to warm the sugarveil+lace mold on a cookie sheet. When they got it up to about 100F, the lace peeled out in one flexible piece.

Me, I think that the Sugarveil video was "too good to be true" and therefore I didn't fall for it.

tripleD Posted 10 Jun 2012 , 2:10pm
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I use sugarveil. When I have used it I Loved it. I have never used it in a mold. I love to use it for guitar strings, Shoe strings, Flags to drape over cakes. I only bought the mix not the whole kit.

emilyg Posted 10 Jun 2012 , 5:20pm
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Hi Seashell,

I'm happy to help you with SugarVeil. In a nutshell, here are some basics: if SugarVeill sticks at all to the mat, it simply means it is not yet set, and you need to dry out the surrounding air by turning an oven on nearby, and/or having a fan blow across the mat. Or if you turn on only the light in your oven, it becomes a big food dehydrator that's great to use to set SugarVeil when you have lots of humidity.

When SugarVeil is set, it will be dry to the touch, not stretch out of shape, and peel easily from the mat. If you don't want to use it right away, place it between sheets of parchment in a zipped bag to keep it flexible - otherwise it will pass the set stage and dry out, which is what you noticed when it became stiff and broke.

Here are tips for working with SugarVeil: http://www.facebook.com/SugarVeilicing/notes. Also, please take a look at our Facebook page www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing and read about beginners just like you who first had a few SugarVeil questions (which are usually easily answered) and then posted photos of their wonderful results. SugarVeil is unlike any other product used for decorating. It's like going from buttercream to fondant - a new process to learn that will give you many new things to add to your cake decorating toolbox.

I am currently doing a tradeshow, but if you PM me your tel number, I'll be happy to call you when I can and assist you personally.

Thank you for your post - I am pleased I discovered it so I can help you out.

Kind Regards,

Michele Hester

bobwonderbuns Posted 10 Jun 2012 , 6:01pm
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I've been using SugarVeil for a couple of years now -- I love it! I have two mats -- the regular lace mat and one of the fancy ones -- the regular one I finally got to work and I use it all the time. I'm still on the learning curve with the fancy lace mat. Each mat is different and some take longer to figure out. There is an excellent fact sheet that Carina uses here on FB: http://www.facebook.com/carinascupcakes?ref=ts#!/notes/carinas-cupcakes/sugarveil-fact-sheet/359507054063694 If you look at her cupcakes -- she often uses SV on the cupcakes and they're GORGEOUS!!

The trick to using SugarVeil is to really work with it to figure out how it works -- the learning curve as it were. Once you're over that it's like a gift from God.

emilyg Posted 11 Jun 2012 , 3:51am
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Thanks, BobW - Here's a tip for you when working with the more delicate Confectioners' Mats [the Circle Bouquets and the Flower Net are the sheerest lace of all the Mats http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/sugarveil-mat.htm]: When you are using a mat design that is new to you, fInish spreading/scraping it and allow it to partially set (so that it doesn't leave SugarVeil on your finger when you touch it). Then, re-beat the SugarVeil mixture for one minute again just before use, and spread/scrape another session of SugarVeil on top of this previous, partially-set layer.

Doing this second treatment when you work with a mat unfamiliar to you will strengthen the lace beneath, and also give you a little practice in spreading, which is critical with the more delicate lace. Your fingertips need to push down onto the back of the spreader, and the angle of the spreader should be close to the mat. Raising the top of the spreader away from (perpendicular to) the mat will scrape SugarVeil out of, rather than press SugarVeil into, the tiny lines.

bobwonderbuns Posted 11 Jun 2012 , 1:36pm
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Thanks Michele, that does help! icon_biggrin.gif

bobwonderbuns Posted 11 Jun 2012 , 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by BakingIrene

If it makes you feel better, Buddy Valastro had the same problem with Sugarveil for his own anniversary cake.

The solution they came up with shown on TV was to warm the sugarveil+lace mold on a cookie sheet. When they got it up to about 100F, the lace peeled out in one flexible piece.

Me, I think that the Sugarveil video was "too good to be true" and therefore I didn't fall for it.




While I appreciate your thoughts, I disagree with them. Buddy has problems that nobody else seems to have (on a regular basis no less) -- enough said there.

As for the "too good to be true" -- have you tried it? I have. I own two mats and I'm saving for a third. It's a little tricky at first until you get used to it, then once you do it's truly amazing. There is nothing fraudulent about the SugarVeil videos. And yes, I do speak from experience.

[edited for spelling error]

shelbycompany Posted 11 Jun 2012 , 2:21pm

WOW!!
This info is so great to know as I am new to Sugar Veil myself. Now if you will excuse me, I have to go play with my sugar veil!! icon_biggrin.gif

aprilismaius Posted 11 Jun 2012 , 9:03pm

shelbycompany, I do hope you keep playing with your SugarVeil. I really love using it. I have used it on a few first communion cakes this year, and my customers can't say enough nice things about the way it looks. Don't give up. Skills worth learning often times require practice. icon_surprised.gif)

Seashell48 Posted 12 Jun 2012 , 10:45pm

I was wondering why it was not very popular, I though it's because the price...no, it takes a lot of mastering to end up with poor results, I just going to trow it away, I have no space in my cabinet for thingS I don't use.. The one thing I just ordered today is a frill tool to make one of those frill cakes. I will let you know if it works icon_smile.gif.

http://www.carinascupcakes.co.uk/Cutters-and-Tools.html
LL

sweettreat101 Posted 13 Jun 2012 , 7:32am

Don't throw it away. Put it on Ebay and sell it. I have looked several times on Ebay for the Sugarveil system and all I find is the frosting.

Claire138 Posted 13 Jun 2012 , 10:55am

I would absolutely love to buy the sugar veil kit, it's been on my list forever but I'm worried about postage & how much extra that would add (I live in France). I've also bought a few lemons (the Mat for one) so always hesitate now about big purchases. If I'm just starting out with SV would I be ok with just the mat(s) and icing mix or do I need something else too?

bobwonderbuns Posted 13 Jun 2012 , 2:43pm
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Originally Posted by Claire138

I would absolutely love to buy the sugar veil kit, it's been on my list forever but I'm worried about postage & how much extra that would add (I live in France). I've also bought a few lemons (the Mat for one) so always hesitate now about big purchases. If I'm just starting out with SV would I be ok with just the mat(s) and icing mix or do I need something else too?




I started with the SV lace mat and 5 lbs of mix. Then I saved for another lace mat. Now I'm saving for yet another lace mat! icon_biggrin.gif Here's what the lace mat looks like: http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/originalmat-pop.htm

You can buy the whole system but that's not really necessary. I use parchment cones to pipe instead of spending the $220 for the system.

Claire138 Posted 13 Jun 2012 , 7:20pm

Thanks Bobwonderbuns, So would I be all right with just ordering the icing mix and a mat? I'm a little confused by their site bc I see so many things and I'm not sure what they are for. Icing dispenser? If I want to start of slowly yet still be able to make something pretty what is a must?

sweettreat101 Posted 13 Jun 2012 , 7:37pm

You can use piping bags and cake tips if you don't want to purchase the powered icing machine. I plan on ordering these bottles I found. They are inexpensive and use cake tips. If you want to make lace then you would need the silicone molds. I don't really like the patterns they have so I plan on trying to make my own with amazing mold putty. I have used it successfully in the past so I figured I would give it a try. You can do a search for the bottles if you are interested. I can't post the actual cake site because CC will block it. 2 oz Squeezit Mold Painter Bottles Pk/2 two bottle cost 3.79.

Claire138 Posted 13 Jun 2012 , 7:48pm

Thanks for your help, this is definitely going to be my next big buy.

Narina Posted 6 Aug 2012 , 5:33am

Hello all!
I have a question. I made some cutouts with sugarveil and had some scraps left over... I was wondering if I could do anything to the scraps to make them back to a liquidy consistency. Also, I do not yet have a silicone mold and would be willing to purchase it from someone who might not need their particular mold any more.
Thanks in advance!
Narina

CandiceSlabbert Posted 9 Dec 2012 , 4:39am

I'm Dying to try Sugarveil and I'm struggling to get hold of it in South Africa, If anyone is wanting to sell their mat, please let me know!!!!

kkmcmahan Posted 9 Dec 2012 , 5:07am

Don't give up on sugarveil.  I don't think there is such a big learning curve and I'm fairly new to decorating  With my first batch I did not wait long enough for the sugarveil to dry after spreading it on the mat (a very sticky mess).  One batch makes up multiple sheets so I cleaned up my first mess and tried it again.  No problem thereafter. Once you get the right consistency then it's pretty straight forward.  Here is a picture of my second try...I really love this although this would not be a design I would use too often, waiting to get another mat.  Try again, you will get it!

 

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Claire138 Posted 9 Dec 2012 , 10:51am

I finally bought the sugar veil mat with spatula and mix and I love it albeit I've only used it once and it worked a charm - I was seriously worried bc I did not realize I needed to prepare it ahead of time (another post asking for help on friday), anyway, it peeled away from the mat beautifully. I used it on an engagement cake with just the couple's name on top (the sugar veil was around the sides of the cake) and it needed no further decoration. It speaks for itself. So, so happy with it and will definitely buy another mat.

JanDunlevy Posted 9 Dec 2012 , 11:52am

AI have used Sugarveil on several occasions and absolutely love it! I am amazed at its possibilities and capabilities. I have printed off patterns of various designs from the Internet and just placed a piece of parchment paper over it and used the Sugarveil in a decorator bag and a piping tip to trace the design. I have bought serveral of the mats but usually end up wanting and needing something more design specific so I resort to google and trace!

Theodor Posted 9 Oct 2013 , 2:55pm

Tried so many times and gave up, bought a beautiful mat and sugarveil icing, spreads nicely looks beautiful in the mat, tried everything to get it off, air, overnight, oven lamp, it is dry and not sticky but sticks to the mat, tried buddy's idea, nothing, tried cornstarch once, shortening on the mat once , nothing.

 

wasted a lot of my time

chqtpi Posted 2 Jan 2014 , 9:51am

Ok,

This may be a bit off topic, and I apologize if I am out of turn, but I have a BIG problem. I am helping a friend out by doing a cake for her while she is out of town. It involves using sugarveil. I think it is amazing btw. Well, I was told after taking the icing out of the mold, to put it on wax paper. Everything was going fine...until I went to peel it off the wax paper, and it is sticking like mad. I have 8 of the 16 pieces under a fan and two more in an oven with the light on, hoping to dry it out and be able to use it. I am out of the sugarveil, and there is no possibility to get more locally before I need to have the cake finished. Does anyone know if it is possible to use it like this, or am I going to have to hand-pipe the entire design instead? Thank you, and again I apologize for thread-jacking, but I am beyond sinking at this point. Thank you! 

julzs71 Posted 2 Jan 2014 , 2:13pm

AIf that doesn't work then try royal icing.

Johnschrock Posted 9 Jul 2014 , 8:25pm

I would like to purchase used sugar veil equipment if anyone is selling I have been tempted to buy new but am looking for someone that might not want it any more

 

John

emilyg Posted 10 Jul 2014 , 5:00pm

Hi Theodor - not sure how this post escaped us long ago, but here are oven-setting instructions to follow for setting SugarVeil within minutes: http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/SugarVeil-Confectioners-Mats.pdf. And if you've ever a question in the future, please post it to our Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing so we can catch it and answer you immediately - thank you!

emilyg Posted 10 Jul 2014 , 5:14pm

Chqtpi, so sorry to have somehow missed your post here. Parchment paper is a better choice than wax paper for parking SugarVeil (if you must use wax paper, then grease it with solid vegetable fat so the SugarVeil will release easier), and store the decorations air tight until you are ready to place them onto the cake. To set SugarVeil within minutes, follow these oven-setting instructions: http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/SugarVeil-Confectioners-Mats.pdf. And if you've ever a question in the future, please either call us at (800) 563-0074, email us at info@sugarveil.com, or post it as so many others do to our Facebook page at http://www.facebook.com/sugarveilicing so we can catch it quickly and answer you immediately - thank you!

 

cakesforu Posted 13 Aug 2014 , 4:00am

hi ill take it from you if you are going to throe it out as i have had an interest with lace decoration and want to start this up.

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