Haven Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 4:30pm
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I am in need of lots of help in making my daughter's wedding cake! I would so appreciate any help/advice you can give me. The wedding isn't until September, but I am trying to get everything together and hopefully practice before the wedding! First of all, where can I find hexagon separator plates? They are discontinued from Wilton. Is there somewhere else to get them? How do you attach gumpaste flowers to the cake to be sure they don't fall off? How do you attach a swag on to the side of the cake? Where can I get lemon filling? I know that I am extra worried because it is for my daughter, and I want it to be perfect. So, I would appreciate ANY advice. Thank you so much!

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LeeBD Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 5:53pm
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Hmmm don't know where you can find hex sep plates. Did a search and came up blank. Globalsugart carries pastry fillings and hexagon masonite cake boards. I would advise you to do a google search or a tutorial search here on how to attach flowers and swags. I know you will find something. It's much easier to do once you've SEEN it being done. HTH

LeeBD Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 5:54pm
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Sorry, that's "Globalsugarart"

pmarks0 Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 5:59pm
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Here are some answers. Just remember Google is your friend. I found all of this by going to google and searching on line,

Hexagon Separator plates - Try eBay. but you will probably have difficulties finding them. It may be better to change the shape of the tier.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Large-Lot-Wilton-Heart-Square-Hexagon-Cake-Plates-Pillars-35-Pc-Lot-/260968066547?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cc2e8adf3

Gumpaste flowers - if they're not on a wire, you could use royal icing

Fondant swag - a little water

http://cakecentral.com/tutorial/how-to-make-fondant-swags
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDQPpoYruH8
http://www.wilton.com/idea/Essence-of-Elegance-Cake

Lemon Filling - you can buy it or make your own

http://www.wilton.com/recipe/Lemon-Cake-Filling
http://www.oprah.com/food/Lemon-Curd
http://www.globalsugarart.com/product.php?id=19570&name=Lemon%20Filling%20by%20Henry%20&%20Henry

Apti Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 6:04pm
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Welcome and kudos for having the chutzpa to learn how to make your daughter's wedding cake in September! You are definitely on the right track by starting now with practice cakes and you'll have a lovely wedding cake at the end of your learning curve.

The most helpful thing you can do as your questions arise over the next months is to attach a photo. A photo of your proposed cake, or a photo of the sketch. A photo of what "went wrong" when you need help fixing it.
It is also helpful to let us know your skill level with cakes. Have you taken all the Wilton courses or other classes? Do you have experience with large cakes? etc.

Hexagon separator plates: try eBay
Alternatively, you can make your own hexagon plates with foamcore (another learning curve) and use alternative dowels/pillars, etc. I'd try eBay first.
Lemon filling: I recommend sleeve filling. Here's a good source online:
https://www.slice-heaven.com/store/show/LF76K4151
How to attach swags/gum paste flowers to cake? This is all part of the learning curve. Go to Youtube and enter the search term "fondant swag". You will find a LOT of video tutorials.
We can't tell you how to attach the gum paste flowers because we don't know your design. Will the flowers be made by you? Will they be wired? Will they just be laid flat against the cake?

kakeladi Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 10:11pm
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As someone who did exactly what you plan some 30 yrs ago I wish you lots of luck. I didn't find it all that hard. And ended up making 3 more wedding cakes in the next month or two before seeking out lessons! icon_smile.gif
My one suggestion is that hex cakes are *hard* to do unless you have lots of experience/gumption(sp?)
Apti's suggestion of using foam core is not bad. I never could cut it straight/smooth enough to use.
And the rest of her advice is right onicon_smile.gif

lilmissbakesalot Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 10:29pm
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You can use round plates with hexagons.

ptanyer Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 10:43pm
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Don't forget Bakery Crafts SPS for the separator plates and supports. Best investment you will make for this very special wedding cake!

Good luck thumbs_up.gif

Pam

matthewkyrankelly Posted 26 Mar 2012 , 11:04pm
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One thing to put on your checklist now to prevent problems later - Will you or won't you refrigerate?

This will help you choose the best fillings(perishable or not), where you will store the cake, and what you will need from the venue for storage.

Given the events you will be attending before the wedding, non-perishable fillings would probably save your sanity and allow you to decorate earlier than perishable fillings. You also have plenty of time to try some of the better non-perishable fillings out there. Non-perishable will also allow you transport the cake a little more freely and leave it on display at the reception.

KoryAK Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 1:34am
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Originally Posted by lilmissbakesalot

You can use round plates with hexagons.




This.

Haven Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 3:29am

Thank you to all of you for your time and help! Somehow, I am going to make this cake work! LeeBD, I also tried to search for the hexagon sep plates, and they are no where. Thank you for trying to find them, too. I will look into Global Sugar Art for the fillings, and will also check out the tutorials. pmarks0, she has her heart set on a hexagon tier. Thank you for all the great information. I will be checking out all these sites. Apti, Thank you! I am totally self taught. I did a few wedding cakes - years ago - back when everything was just a ton of buttercream roses. Things are different now! I have some of the gumpaste flowers made already. I did some with wires and some without. I did try eBay with no luck. I will check out what this foamcore is. Kakeladi, Thanks! I guess I have "gumption"! Just want to make my girl happy! Lilmissbakesalot and KoryAK, Use round sep plates? Will that support the entire hex tier? Thanks Pam, I will need tons of luck! Matthewkyrankelly, Non-perishable it is! Thank you for reminding me!
Thank you everybody! You are all great!

ReneeFLL Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 3:54am

Some of the venues will not allow outside food to come in. If you don't already nknow, please check with them so you are not caught off guard at the last minute. Also, where are you located? If you are in S. Florida then I can help/guide you.
Renee

KoryAK Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 5:56am

If you use a round plate that is larger than the cake, you will have no problem at all (and round looks fine under hex). If you want to use a smaller plate so that it doesn't show, you just need to make sure that your cake is on a doubled cardboard (same size as cake - won't show) and then the overhanging edges will be fine. I've done this with square cakes too which have larger overhangs.

wonkycakes Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 11:37am

For the lemon filling, just use your favourite vanilla buttercream recipe, add freshly grated lemon zest (be sure to use either organic lemons or scrub the lemons very well with hot water to remove any preservatives!) and replace all or some of the milk with lemon juice. How much lemon juice is really dependent on personal preference. This is a great filling that doesn't require refridgeration and guaranteed to be lemony!!

Haven Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 1:31pm

Renee, I am baking the cake in our church kitchen, so that covers the license issue, and the reception venue is fine with that. Thank you so much for your offer to help! Unfortunately, I am in Minnesota. A little too far away from you!
KoryAK, Thank you! I will try this on my practice cakes. I appreciate your advice more then you know!
Wonkycakes, Sounds great! I will try this and let the bride taste it and see what she thinks.
Thanks again to all of you for your advice! You are so helpful! I may be asking for more help as I make practice cakes and 'problems' come up! It's so nice to have this site. I don't feel like I am just on my own with this very important cake. You guys are great!!!!!

tiggy2 Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 5:58pm

If you want to use foamcore (available at craft stores and art supply stores) it will cut like butter with a hot knife http://www.hobbymasters.com/excel-electric-soldering-iron-hot-knife-and-tip.aspx

kakeladi Posted 27 Mar 2012 , 8:11pm

......Use round sep plates? Will that support the entire hex tier?.......

As was replied, no problem using round plates icon_smile.gif Let;s say the hex cake is 9"; put it on a 10" round and there will be no problems.
I tried for yrs to cut my own cake board from foamcore and *never!* could make them smooth and nice looking. The small cost of buying ready made cake boards is a great peace of mind icon_smile.gif In the above mentioned sizes put the 9" hex cake on an 8" board before placing it on the 10" plate.
If you don't want the plate/board to show then put the 9" cake on an 8" plate. Yes, that will support the cake just fine.

Haven Posted 29 Mar 2012 , 1:28pm

Thank you - all of you - for your tips and tricks. The cake that I will be making (with changes to fit my daughter's wishes) is on the cover (and page 9) of the Jan/Feb 2012 American Cake Decorating magazine. It will have roses, peonies and hydrangeas. Possibly brushed embroidery in place of the lace on the top 2 tiers. We have to come up with something different for the bottom tier, because I don't want to spend the whole day decorating, and miss all the activities! What size do you think these pans are? Any other hints for doing this cake? Thanks again!

Apti Posted 29 Mar 2012 , 6:31pm

Haven~~I just saw a review of a new book by Autumn Carpenter online. It seems to be exactly the sort of resource that new bakers need (especially if they wish to tackle an important project like a wedding cake!).

Personally, I benefit from videos online and rarely look at books, but this one looks like a treasure for newbies. Check it out, it may be worthwhile for you to purchase.

The Complete Photo Guide to Cake Decorating

http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Photo-Guide-Cake-Decorating/dp/1589236696/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

leah_s Posted 29 Mar 2012 , 7:02pm

ditto the round plate under a hex. I've always done that, but If the hex is 9" I use a 9" round. I cut a cardboard to the hex shape, using the pan as a guide. It works fine.

And as a PP said, look into SPS for your support system. it will take a lot of stress of you (and the cake.)

Haven Posted 3 Apr 2012 , 2:34am

I just took a look at the book online and it looks great! I am going to see if it's at B & N this week! Thank you to everyone for all of your help and great ideas! I will be back as I get started on practice cakes for more helpful advice.
I so appreciate everyone of you!

denetteb Posted 3 Apr 2012 , 3:10am

Where in MN are you?

Apti Posted 3 Apr 2012 , 4:21am
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Originally Posted by Haven

I just took a look at the book online and it looks great! I am going to see if it's at B & N this week! Thank you to everyone for all of your help and great ideas! I will be back as I get started on practice cakes for more helpful advice.
I so appreciate everyone of you!




If you get the book, would you please come back on this thread and give a review? Thanks!

dandymom Posted 4 Jun 2012 , 1:17am

Haven, I am in Minnesota as well. If you are anywhere near the cities there is a great cake and candy store in Fridley. They have TONS of cake supplies and I think they even rent out pans.

-D

denetteb Posted 4 Jun 2012 , 1:30am

Can you give me the name and address of the Fridley store? Thanks, Denette

dandymom Posted 4 Jun 2012 , 3:05am
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Can you give me the name and address of the Fridley store? Thanks, Denette




I sent you a PM.

denetteb Posted 4 Jun 2012 , 3:19am

Thanks, Dandymom.

VaBelle Posted 4 Jun 2012 , 3:52am

Since you're going to be making a hexagon cake, I would suggest buying a hexagon shaped cake dummy and practice icing and covering with fondant, whichever your daughter wants so you can practice. Getting those sharp, clean edges can be tricky. Best of luck to you!

BakingIrene Posted 4 Jun 2012 , 2:43pm

You have the time to get a local shop to cut hexagon shapes out of 1/4" plexiglas. I had to do this for a tiered cake before Wilton started making the hex separators.

I would prefer to do this because having 6 sides to the cake and 4 pillars looks odd. If you can buy the studs that SMS uses under their plates, you are all set.

Haven Posted 6 Aug 2012 , 5:49pm

Hello friends,
I am totally confused about what size pans to get for the cake tiers. Could someone please help me? The cake is pictured on the cover of the January/February issue of American Cake Decorating magazine. Also on pg. 9. I have got to get started on practicing doing this cake - but really don't know what size to make the tiers. Thank you so much for your help!

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