Chantilly Lace?

Decorating By sebrina Updated 11 Aug 2011 , 8:12am by LisaPeps

sebrina Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 4:13am
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I have a request from a daughter for a surprise reproduction of her mother's wedding cake for their 50th wedding anniversary. Sounds great, right? The bad thing is she never could get her hands on a picture of the darn thing. She has a newspaper clipping that describes the cake as white with a bottom and a top layer & chantilly lace. Anyone know what they considered to be chantilly lace? I know what cornelli lace is, I am thinking she might be misreading it?

TIA everyone!

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shanter Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 4:35am
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If you go to Google Images and search for "chantilly lace" you will see what it looks like. It's been around for eons. Not that I've been around for eons icon_smile.gif but I remember seeing pictures of chantilly lace wedding dresses from the 40s, 50s, 60s......

shanter Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 4:43am
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If you have a Joann's Fabrics near you, I'm sure they will have it on a bolt in several colors.

shanter Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 4:49am
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Let's see if I can attach a picture....

shanter Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 4:49am
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Nope. Didn't work. icon_sad.gif

JSKConfections Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 5:20am
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All the pics I googled for Chantilly Lace looks like Cornelli lace to me...must be one and the same?

JanH Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 8:07am
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Originally Posted by JSKConfections

All the pics I googled for Chantilly Lace looks like Cornelli lace to me...must be one and the same?




Not exactly, Chantilly lace has definite patterns....

Here are some links to Chantilly lace:

http://www.housefabric.com/categorysubview.asp?CategorySubID=603&CategoryID=109

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004NQSDEC/?tag=cakecentral-20

http://www.neimanmarcus.com/store/catalog/prod.jhtml?itemId=prod45780002&ecid=NMCIGoogleBaseFeed&003=5840816&010=H25LT&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=H25LT

HTH

shanter Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 3:55pm
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Do an image search for cornelli lace and you will see the difference. Cornelli lace is a piping technique for baked items and it much simpler--a simpler design, not necessary simple to accomplish. icon_smile.gif As far as I know (having haunted fabric stores and cake web sites), cornelli lace is never a fabric, whereas Chantilly lace is.

sebrina Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 8:48pm
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Originally Posted by shanter

As far as I know (having haunted fabric stores and cake web sites), cornelli lace is never a fabric, whereas Chantilly lace is.




Yeah, that is what has me thinking she must of read it wrong. From what I know, cakes were mostly iced with buttercream back then. I don't see them draping real lace over a cake? icon_confused.gif (I would hope...)

Thanks everyone! icon_smile.gif

southerncross Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 9:28pm
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depending on where you want to go with this, I would consider SugarVeil's confectioner's mat...Or perhaps it's just me desparate to try this lace on fondant

http://www.sugarveil.com/mat/sugarveil-mat.htm

southerncross Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 9:35pm
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or perhaps you could stencil lace on the cake. I doubt if the wedding cake of 50 years ago had fondant but you could update the cake and still pau homage to the original cake


http://247bestshop.com/?q=Designer+Decorating+Cake+Stencil+5+tier+Lace+Set

in any event we can't wait to see what you do

shanter Posted 10 Aug 2011 , 9:50pm
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I think the terms have gotten mixed up. I just found a tutorial for a "Chantilly lace cake" but it was definitely cornelli lace. I know Chantilly lace was around 50 years ago; I don't think that's true about cornelli lace, but I don't really have anything to base that on.

These are pictures of cakes described as having been decorated with Chantilly lace designs:
http://www.sharicakes.com/images/cakes/116/ChantillyLaceGift007.jpg
http://www.layers-cake.com/wp-content/gallery/wedding-cakes/chantilly_lace.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oK_EBI0PQX0/TWz7K2TaAyI/AAAAAAAAAro/kFNwaCAftc0/s1600/Wedding%2Bcake%2BChantilly.jpg
This one wasn't called Chantilly lace, but someone commented that it looked just like Chantilly lace.
http://media.cakecentral.com/gallery/23624/normal_1259788974.JPG

Since she can't provide you a picture, sketch a design that you think she will like (or show her some pictures of other cakes) and if she okays something, then go for it! Without a picture that's about all you can do.

southerncross Posted 11 Aug 2011 , 12:39am
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Shanter....i believe the first pic is chenille, the second pic is alencon lace style made with a stencil and embellished with pearls, the third lace style is called hardenger (a lace that is actually embroidery work) and probably done with royal icing, and the fourth is Chantilly done with brush work...very nice selection of pics

shanter Posted 11 Aug 2011 , 1:05am
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I disagree. The first doesn't look at all like chenille to me. This is what I would call chenille:
http://cn1.kaboodle.com/hi/img/c/0/0/25/f/AAAADMN56OQAAAAAACX6vg.jpg?v=1231570524000
like an old bedspread.

As to the second one, you could say the top part looks like Alencon but the bottom part looks like Chantilly.

The third one is definitely not Hardanger. I am half Norwegian and have done Hardanger embroidery and it doesn't look like that. It is done on an even-weave fabric or canvas, so one couldn't get a 5-petaled flower. This is a Hardanger design:
http://www.lynxlace.com/images/h103.jpg

Anyway, I don't really care. I'm sure whatever cake the OP comes up with will be a success. icon_smile.gif

Mexx Posted 11 Aug 2011 , 1:22am
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50 years ago, the cake was undoubtedly a fruit cake covered in royal icing. Chantilly lace originated in France. I don't think the cake would have actually been covered in real lace, just some piped version...perhaps matching the lace from her wedding gown.

southerncross Posted 11 Aug 2011 , 1:46am
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50 years ago, US weddings didn't have fruitcake as did my cousins in Ireland, England and Scotland. I'm old enough to have had a US wedding cake 50 years ago.

I agree that there wasn't real lace on the cake. Everything here was butter cake with buttercream frosting. I'm not sure the OP meant that the news clipping described a two tier cake that was decorated with a chantilly lace design in buttercream or whether there was actual chantilly lace around the base of the cake in a ruffle....I remember those cakes.

The buttercream designs of long ago weren't as sophisticated as they are now...lots of swags and such and . Today we see various laces replicated in intricate designs with brushes, impression mats, etc.

Narie Posted 11 Aug 2011 , 2:03am
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50 years ago the cake would have been white cake. Definitely not fruit cake. 100 years ago fruit cake might have been the choice but definitely not in the 60's. The idea of using a stencil for the lace effect sounds good to me.

gscout73 Posted 11 Aug 2011 , 2:16am
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Here is a picture of Chantilly lace

I can't get the pic to upload. dagnabbit. I used to be able to do it.. but is not working for me.

JanH Posted 11 Aug 2011 , 6:46am
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Royal icing chantilly lace wedding cake:

http://lusciouslayerscakes.blogspot.com/
(Have to scroll down.)

Chantilly lace, Irish crochet, Sotas and Cornelli cakes:

http://lusciouslayerscakes.blogspot.com/

HTH

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