Marla84 Posted 30 Jul 2011 , 12:16am

I went to the store to buy Baker's Joy Baking Spray, and when they didn't have any, I made the mistake of thinking PAM Baking would work just as well. It doesn't.... I used it tonight and both of my cakes completely broke, crumbled and stuck when I tried to release them from the pan. It's a basic box mix cake that I've made a million times, and the same pans I always use. The only change was the spray. I borrowed Baker's Joy from my MIL, re-baked and they came out perfectly. Lesson learned!

Has anyone (who does not also line with parchment) had success with PAM Baking spray?

31 replies
TheOtherCakeLady Posted 30 Jul 2011 , 1:06am

I use Pam Baking Spray most of the time. I've had no problem as long as I make sure every inch of the pan's bottom and side is covered. In a pinch, I've also sucessfuly used the regular Pam spray dusted with flour.

kimmi1963 Posted 30 Jul 2011 , 1:25am

I am also a PAM user. I also use boxed mixes and have never had a problem. My husband once bought the Wal-Mart version and still perfect. Sorry this happened to you.

sheepmanswife Posted 30 Jul 2011 , 1:25am

I always use crisco and flour. Never have had a problem. The one time I used a spray, it would not release. Lesson learned!

ladij153 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 4:32am

Hi Marla84,

I use a substance called Pan Grease.....I just brush it in my pans on bottom and sides and haven't had any problems with sticking or breaking....

Pan Grease

1 cup shortening
1 cup flour
3/4 cup vegetable oil

Mix well with electric mixer and store in airtight container. Does
not need refrigeration.

I got the recipe from someone here on CC but for the life of me I can't remember who it was...

yummy_in_my_tummy Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 4:57am

That "pan grease" is amazing. The first time I used it, I was SO surprised at how nice and clean my cakes popped out of the pan with no problems. I refuse to use anything else now!

SSCakery541 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 5:05am

ladij153: I've been using cake release for as long as i've been doing cakes and it works wonders... however, I have run out before and that pretty well sucks... how's the shelf life of pan grease? If it's as good as you all say and it has a good shelf life - why pay for cake release? icon_smile.gif

ladij153 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 5:10am

hi SSCakery541,

I've found the shelf life to be really good...you may have to give it a good stir if you haven't used it in awhile tho....I've had mine for as long as a year without it getting funky....

I've used Baker's Joy and Pam for Baking and both work equally as well but the cost doesn't make sense when making your own is sooo much cheaper and goes further...jmho! Let me know how it works for you!

carmijok Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 5:11am

I always use Pam. But I apply it after I've put Crisco and flour in too. Pam is my back-up for spots I may have missed with the crisco and flour. It has NEVER given me any problems!

I had the same problem with Baker's Joy. I used it twice and both times it crumbled the sides of my cakes...at least that was the only common denominator. I threw it out.

mo63 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 5:42am

Dont you have teflon sheets in the US? Thats what I use. Just cut them to size to fit the bottom of my tins and never a problem. icon_smile.gif

angelleyes Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 7:41am

I always use pam never had a problem either..

shaekae81 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 8:21am

When yall say you use Pam w/out a problem, do you mean the regualar cooking Pam or do they make a baking version with flour in it too? (I have lived in Germany for the last 5 years and our American commissaries are limited in their products). I can't imagine that regular Pam would work for a liquidy batter if you didn't dust it with flour also.

I use Baker's Joy and LOVE it.....I remember the day my sister and I discovered it (about 11 years ago) and the little happy dance I did in the store and home once I had used it! LOL

I might take a try at the pan grease though. I have used (before I found Baker's Joy....and since then when I've ran out) Crisco and flour and it works well as long as I use enough....but the spray is less time consuming.

Foxicakes Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 9:06am

I, too, used to use the ""sprays" until I read something about an ingredient in the aerosol makes the cake darker. I then tried the pan grease and I am a converted believer!! It works better,in my opinion, AND it doesn't give the cake that dark shade. Not to mention its cheap and I always have the ingredients to make more!!

neelycharmed Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 10:53am

Thanks for putting the pan grease recipe on icon_smile.gif
I only use the baker's spray, but good to know I have "an at home option" when I run out...
Jodi icon_smile.gif

dcarylmk Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 11:18am

I have always used Pam baking spray and I have not had a problem with any of my cakes sticking!

kakeladi Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 11:55am

For those of you using the hame-made pan 'grease': In really humid areas you can/should add about 1/2 cup cornstarch to the flour/oil/shortening mixture.

This mixture has been round for over the 35+ yrs I have been baking icon_smile.gif I keep it in an old plastic container on the kitchen counter. I also keep a thick round (2") pastry brush nearby for brushing it on the pan. Don't store the bursh IN the mixture container.
I alwasy mixed it up w/my KA - wire whip for about 5 minutes - until it is light, fluffy like whipped cream. As it sits on the counter - especially in warmer weather - it will seperate some w/the oil seperating out on the bottom. If it's done that it's time to rewhip it.

JillyPlot Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 12:39pm

I've been using the Pam for Baking with no problem, but recently decided to try the pan grease. My recipe is 1 c. oil, 1 c. shortening, 1 c. flour. I just used that this past week for the first time because I've heard it works better and is more cost effective, and I loved it. The Pam for Baking works great also in my opinion though.

cakegrandma Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 1:05pm

I used Pam spray for many years and had not problems. I will still use it if I run out of spray from Restaurant Depot and no problems even if I don't put any parchment circles in. I hate using shortening and flour, to me it leaves an oily flourly film on the cakes, thus the spray. OP sorry you had a problem with your cake.
evelyn

Marla84 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 1:24pm

Thanks for all the replies everyone.. I'm not sure what went wrong with the PAM. I've made a lot of cakes with other sprays, and also the shortening/flour method and never had a problem like this. I'll probably try the homemade pan grease at some point, but for now the Baker's Joy is working great.

Lori123456 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 1:38pm

I used a spray grease once. Overspray ALL over my floor. Slipped and down I went! I obviously can't be trusted with an aerosol can...

AnnieCahill Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 2:35pm

I use Baker's Joy. It works great for me when I'm too lazy to do the shortening/flour routine (which is often).

I have used Pam for Baking and it trashes my cakes. I don't know why, but I'll never use it again.

SSCakery541 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 3:09pm

I don't keep vegetable oil on hand.. Will olive or canola oil work with the recipe? I don't see what it'd hurt...

m_willford Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 3:48pm

I always use parchment on the bottom of my pan, and liberally spray the sides with a baking spray. I've used both baker's joy and the pam for baking with no problems as long as I parchment the cake pan too.

I may have to try this pan grease stuff though seeing as how it's cheaper. As long as I store it out of my 2 yr old's reach! (He is a genius for getting into things...)

kimmi1963 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 4:16pm

I have just used the regular PAM. Never a problem. The cake grease how do you put it on your pans and isn't it harder to get into the the shaped pans?

shaekae81 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 4:25pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by SSCakery541

I don't keep vegetable oil on hand.. Will olive or canola oil work with the recipe? I don't see what it'd hurt...




To me, olive oil has a very distinct flavor and most often it is really strong. I LOVE it to cook with, but I do not think that would be a pleasant taste in a cake.

I don't see why canola oil couldn't be used though.

mo63 Posted 31 Jul 2011 , 4:52pm
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lori123456

I used a spray grease once. Overspray ALL over my floor. Slipped and down I went! I obviously can't be trusted with an aerosol can...




You should use teflon sheets then. Much safer haha icon_biggrin.gif

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