Do I Need Dowels And Cake Boards For This Cake?
Decorating By Cakekiasan Updated 15 Feb 2011 , 10:16pm by Cakekiasan
Hello oh-wise-CC-forumites!
I am a proud new member of CC as of yesterday and already need your help.
I am new to cake baking, but very enthusiastic and optimistic indeed, so even though I have used fondant only twice in my life, I am attempting a Barrel cake for my boyfriend's birthday! Yes, I must be mad, and it will probably look more like a giant heap, but let's humor me for a second
The best part is that I have never stacked, or carved a cake before!
So I am pretty sure you'll be seeing me in the forums a lot... I apologise for that in advance
It might help to think of me as your nagging but well-meaning little sister.
But for now, stupid question number 1:
As all my 5 stacked cakes will be the same circumference, do i need dowel rods and cake boards, or are those only necessary when stacking different size cakes?
I am confused as to how I will be able to carve the cake if needing to gently saw through a dowel rod! But I don't want a squished bottom cake layer either...
You definately need dowels and boards. If not all cakes will sink down into one another because of the weight or 5 tiers....
Welcome Cakekiasan!
I'm no expert but I would say yes dowel it! I would also say make sure you get good even layers of filling between the layers and definitely use a board at least between the 3rd layer and the first two so it's essentially two cakes (a 2 layer stacked on top of a 3 layer). You should also chill it prior to carving because the chilled/cold cake is much easier to carve than warm/soft cake. Most importantly have fun and don't be afraid to enter the forums and ask questions because everyone has to start somewhere and needs a little help along the way. Good Luck!
look at Wilton's instructions for building a stack cake:
http://www.wilton.com/cakes/tiered-cakes/stacked-tiered-cake-construction.cfm
you'll see the dowel supports are not close to the edges of the cake. when carving a barrel, it's not to extreme on either end, so you shouldn't have to encounter them.
Welcome Cakekiasan!!!! I don't really have anything to offer about cake stacking. I wanted to welcome you to cake central and just say Hi and have fun with your caking!!!! Amy
Thank you so much everyone! I can't believe how quickly you all responded! You are amazing, thank you!
And for the welcome messages too! I no longer feel like I'm alone, waddling around in the dark with my rolling pin!
@metria, I am planning on making my cakes 10" rounds. That should be a rather decently-sized barrel Thanks for the link!
@pastryqueen9, that makes sense, thanks!
I was planning on freezing the cake overnight before carving it. Which brings me to stupid question number 2:
Do I fill and dowel the cake and then freeze the whole thing? Won't that make me buttercream filling watery when it thaws?
But if I fill and dowel the cake only once it has thawed, what's the point in freezing it at all?
Cakes are hard and confusing! I told my mother that at lunch and she thought I was bonkers: "Don't you just mold the cake into any shape? Like plasticine?" I do NOT want to know what weird cakes she's been eating!
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As all my 5 stacked cakes will be the same circumference, do i need dowel rods and cake boards, or are those only necessary when stacking different size cakes?
I am confused as to how I will be able to carve the cake if needing to gently saw through a dowel rod! But I don't want a squished bottom cake layer either...[/quote]
Oh Yes, dowel your cakes. Anything over 5" is about the industry norm.
The easiest way for me is... set all cakes, without boards, in their stack. all you want to do is carve them to get the shape. After you get the shape right, put your cakeboards (cut to the size you need for each layer) inbetween the appropriate layers as you are filling the cake layers. Make sure that you cut all the doweles the same height. (don't mark one then cut one- mark one then cut them all for that particular layer) otherwise there is no use in using doweles because it has to be supported evenly. Your cakes may be easier if you bake a day early and freeze or refrigerate overnight.
GOOD LUCK!
Hihihi, it all seems so obvious when I read your responses! I think I was confusing myself by reading so many different articles online.
Thanks @Cheriepie, that is a great guide. Your outline has put every step back in order!
I am sure that my kitchen will look like a sugary war zone in a couple of weeks when I get to it, but I will be sure to take a picture of the result for this thread, whatever it may be! (I figure if I fail miserably, I can just roll the cake into 1000 cake pops and pretend that was the whole idea to begin with )
Here are some fabulous pix of barrel cakes!
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/1154384
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/1341354
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/1910986
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/1904365
none of these are mine, but they're all wonderful!
@genevieveyum, those are seriously good indeed. The apple one is unreal! No pressure then
Hi everyone!
I finally made the barrel cake last week. The pictures are up if you're interested in the results!
http://cakecentral.com/gallery/1938288
I learnt SO much making this cake. It took much longer than expected so I had to cut a few corners here and there, but I'm pretty happy with it... I am mostly proud of my apples
Thank you for bearing with my stupid questions and for your support!
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