gscout73 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 2:30am
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I once purchased pre-made diamonds but once I got them they were cloudy, almost milky. So I decided I should be able to make my own. Heck, I make most everything else. icon_smile.gif

So, I purchased the isomalt stix... I purchased a plastic mold. Well, it had multiple mold wells. And they were so clear, like glass. but they were flaton one side, like they were only the top half of a gemstone. And no facets. The molds look like there are supposed to be facets. But you cannot see them on the finished gems. They look stupid. Like smooth little pieces of glass. thumbsdown.gif

I am so saddended icon_cry.gif .

I have spent so much time looking for silicon molds that would make the beautiful whole diamonds that you can purchase pre-made. About 1/4''

I am frustrated. icon_confused.gif

Is there anyone out there in CC-land who can help me?

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gscout73 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 3:27am
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Is there anyone who has any ideas?

All4Show Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 4:37am
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Have you tried a silicon mold? I was just curious because I was thinking of doing the same thing when I saw the isomalt stix, but I was going to buy the new silicon molds that S U N F L O W E R S U G A R A R T has.

gscout73 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 5:58am
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I'll take a look. The isomalt stix are awesome. No mixing or anything. Just melt and mold.

gscout73 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 6:06am
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I took a lood and they are large. And only side or top view, not whole 3d diamond. There is a large 3d diamond but it is huge. There has to be a way to get the mold for the diamonds that everyone sells.

icer101 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 7:07am
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does first impressions molds have the smaller cavity one. i do think they do. i think my friend has it. so check it out.hth

can2d Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 7:47am
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I know you said pre-made but i just want to let you know that you do have the option of makeing your own mold. I purchased some amazing mold putty you mix and it is dry in 20 min. it is non toxic so you can use it to make diff. molds with no worries. icon_rolleyes.gif You can purchase it at michaels for $20.00 or if you have a coupon for cheaper. Iam more then sure you can find it also at any craft store. Good Luck!!! icon_biggrin.gif

jerseygirlNga Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 8:08am
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Should you make a mold or locate the three D, clear gem...please post here with pic or pm... I am looking for the same. Currently, I use a stick pin with a non edible crystal on top. They look great and fairly cheap. I sterilize before inserting and let receiver know to remove before serving.

LisaPeps Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 9:04am
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Are these what you are looking for?

http://www.firstimpressionsmolds.com/g101assortedgemset134x114x14.aspx

http://www.firstimpressionsmolds.com/g102assortedgemset218x34x18.aspx

http://www.firstimpressionsmolds.com/g103assortedgemset318x34x18.aspx

gscout73 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 6:22pm

LisaPeps,
Those are the molds that I have. But unfortunately, the facets are not that defined. The gems almost look smooth. I even applied the non-stick lightly with a q-tip to make sure there was not too much. I wish mine came out looking like that.

But those are still flat on the bottom. I am looking for a mold that would make them full 3d gems just like the ones that can be purchased.

-K8memphis Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 6:29pm

I put two together to make one gemstone.

gscout73 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 6:30pm
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I put two together to make one gemstone.




and that works?

-K8memphis Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 6:35pm
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I put two together to make one gemstone.



and that works?




It works for my purposes. You gotta finesse it so they fit right.
That's how you make a 360 degree anything out of a flat mold.

gscout73 Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 6:59pm
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I put two together to make one gemstone.



and that works?



It works for my purposes. You gotta finesse it so they fit right.
That's how you make a 360 degree anything out of a flat mold.




I was thinking about that, but was not sure it would work. Do yours come out looking like the picture?

bakencake Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 8:14pm
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I saw lauri from cakealchemy do something like this for her big blue diamond. it worked. She made the top and bottom separate and then she melted the sides she wanted to glue together and then combined them. To get the air bubbles she got a blow torch (same way she melted and glued both top and bottom) and heated the surface till the bubbles went away. I went to a store in NY and got one of those diamonds. When i got them they were glass clear but after handling them (i was like a 5 yr old with a new toy) and them being exposed to moisture they got cloudy. hth

bakencake Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 8:19pm

I just looked this up. it's a sneak peek at the show and it kind of shows her doing it. it's in the middle of the video
http://www.wetv.com/video/610686250001/amazing-wedding-cakes-episode-306-sneak-peek

-K8memphis Posted 31 Dec 2010 , 8:47pm

(ramble ramble ramble)

Picture? LisaPeps pictures in those links? Yes I have made those. They are not easy to work with. Especially different colors--you gotta cook each one and burn off the liquid in the food color or they stay real sticky. Stickier than they need to be. Stickier than they already are.

They do take on every finger print and are nothing but high maintenance.

But those new isomalt sticks come already colored so that's cool. But if I was making them it would be a la minute and I would want to incorporate fewer jewels that are larger--I've made the little bitty ones--huge pain in the arse. But the facets do hold.

I did make some 'settings' for some jewels out of pate choux too that I was gonna color with gold or silver.

Honestly, I think using them poured onto fishing line or whatever medium won't melt and used on strings I think is a really good way 'cause you don't have to freaking touch them. Like I've seen done on the Challenges.

But I would think that faking it out with silver or luster colored painted poured chocolate in the mold would be just as efficient. Because once you place the isomalt gem on something they are almost as opaque as the surface they are placed ontoy'know? Which is why you want to double them.

LoveIsInTheAir Posted 12 Jan 2011 , 5:07pm

I read somewhere that if they become cloudy (duh, like that\\'s a GIVEN) that you can wipe them with cooking oil and a paper towel to renew their clarity. Don\\'t know if that works because I have not tried it.

imagenthatnj Posted 12 Jan 2011 , 5:24pm

[quote=\\"bakencake\\"]I just looked this up. it\\'s a sneak peek at the show and it kind of shows her doing it. it\\'s in the middle of the video
http://www.wetv.com/video/610686250001/amazing-wedding-cakes-episode-306-sneak-peek[/quote]

All the Amazing Wedding Cakes videos are available at iTunes, including the third season.

cownsj Posted 12 Jan 2011 , 7:33pm

You can buy fake gems (even at the dollar store), in sizes and shapes you want, then make your own mold using Amazing Mold Putty. You can also try doing them out of geletin instead of isolmalt.

gscout73 Posted 19 Jan 2011 , 2:34am
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You can buy fake gems (even at the dollar store), in sizes and shapes you want, then make your own mold using Amazing Mold Putty. You can also try doing them out of geletin instead of isolmalt.




The Jello option is interesting. I will have to try this.

cownsj Posted 19 Jan 2011 , 3:06am
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You can buy fake gems (even at the dollar store), in sizes and shapes you want, then make your own mold using Amazing Mold Putty. You can also try doing them out of geletin instead of isolmalt.



The Jello option is interesting. I will have to try this.




Don't use Jello, use Knox gelatin.

cylstrial Posted 1 Feb 2011 , 12:58pm
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You can buy fake gems (even at the dollar store), in sizes and shapes you want, then make your own mold using Amazing Mold Putty. You can also try doing them out of geletin instead of isolmalt.



The Jello option is interesting. I will have to try this.



Don't use Jello, use Knox gelatin.




Can you tell me more about making the jewels with Knox gelatin? I don't know how to do that. I'm picturing gelatin jigglers here - but I think you mean that they are like the gelatin bubbles that everyone is talking about.

Thanks! icon_smile.gif

cownsj Posted 1 Feb 2011 , 4:04pm
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You can buy fake gems (even at the dollar store), in sizes and shapes you want, then make your own mold using Amazing Mold Putty. You can also try doing them out of geletin instead of isolmalt.



The Jello option is interesting. I will have to try this.



Don't use Jello, use Knox gelatin.



Can you tell me more about making the jewels with Knox gelatin? I don't know how to do that. I'm picturing gelatin jigglers here - but I think you mean that they are like the gelatin bubbles that everyone is talking about.

Thanks! icon_smile.gif



Sure. Put 2 tablespoons cold water into a bowl or cup, anything you want to pour from. If you want to add color to your jewels, add it now and stir. The tiniest bit of color will be very bold. But this works great to make Rubies, Saphires, Emeralds, etc. Geletin is slightly yellow in color, but you can add a tiny, tiny bit of violet to it to get it clear. (I know, sounds crazy but it works) At this point put one pkg. of Knox gelatin into the mix, carefully making sure it is all submerged, but don't stir as it will add air bubbles into it. Let it sit for 5 minutes. At this point it will feel almost like rubber, or silicone. Nuke it for about 10 seconds. Sometimes you get a gloppy piece, just lift that out and toss away. You can gently stir or just swirl it around. Again, you don't want to add air bubbles into it. If it's too thick, you might want to nuke it a tiny bit more. Then pour into your mold.
The nice thing with this, is that it will set up in the mold very quickly, depending on the size of the mold, 10 - 15 minutes for most, but you can judge as you go. While it's still rubbery, if you don't like it for any reason, you can just renuke it and start over again. Remember when using them though, you don't want to put water on them as it will still melt the gelatin.

cylstrial Posted 1 Feb 2011 , 4:53pm

Thank you Cownsj! So what is the final consistency of the gems? Are they like the jello jigglers? Or do they dry up a little bit? I'm thinking about using them on a treasure chest cake.

Reimagining_Confections Posted 1 Feb 2011 , 5:32pm

Gelatin will dry and start to curl. It won't stay the nice clean shimmer jiggly shape when first removed from the mold. i tried a gelatin snowflake last month and it looked awful after it dried 2 days later. looked great when i first unmolded it. Gelatin is great, just not for thick shapes. The balls are cool or anything thin like insect wings, flowers, leaves etc.

cownsj Posted 1 Feb 2011 , 5:48pm
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Thank you Cownsj! So what is the final consistency of the gems? Are they like the jello jigglers? Or do they dry up a little bit? I'm thinking about using them on a treasure chest cake.



I did ice cubes this way, about 1/4 inch or so thick. They felt very rubbery. And they stayed that way. I decorated the cake in the morning and we had it that evening. It was for a friend, and he took the rest home and it was still fine for him a week later. (I just checked with him now to be sure before saying it.). Another friend made a gem this way, maybe 2 months ago, and I know hers was still just as it was at least 2 weeks later. As far as I know she still has it, but I did call and leave her a message and I'll let you know if I hear differently from her.

I can tell you that with the first bubbles I made, 2 balloons either lost their air or popped while the gelatin was still setting and they did shrivel up to nothing. So now I know I want to experiment to see how long they will last. But I do know for sure that if used right away, they are beautiful and perfect.

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cylstrial Posted 1 Feb 2011 , 7:49pm

Thanks for all your help everyone!

cownsj Posted 1 Feb 2011 , 8:31pm

I'm going to be making a tiny bubble with the gelatin later tonight, so I'll use of the extra and pour it into another mold or two and just wait and see what happens to it over the next few days....

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