Please Explain Difference Between All The Dusts?

Decorating By Cute_lil_bean Updated 27 Mar 2011 , 3:40am by sweetaudrey

Cute_lil_bean Posted 25 Nov 2010 , 7:35pm
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Petal, pearl, luster, highlighter, etc, etc, etc....all those dusts are confusing to me. I'm not sure which one to use for what.

How do I achieve a perfectly solid metallic or gold colour to recreate things like shinny coins by paining it on? I've tried mixing dust with vodka but it got very gooey. I can't remember what kind of dust I used.

I've also tried airbrushing, which worked out beautifully but I'd like to try the paint on method.

TIA

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bakingatthebeach Posted 25 Nov 2010 , 7:42pm
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I use the CK products gold highlighter for the metalic gold look. Ive painted it on dry and Ive added a few drops of vodka so I could paint it on.

brincess_b Posted 25 Nov 2010 , 7:58pm
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petal: matt finish, with colour
pearl: shimmery finish, hint of colour - pearlised look
lustre: metalicy finish, with colour
highlighter: usually just gold or silver 'extreme' lustre dust. i honestly dont know if there is a difference, or its just a brand thing. google search suggests most are non edible?

a lot of companies call their dusts something different to be 'special' and 'unique'. just watch for the ones that arent edible (although petal, pearl and lustre dusts are usually safe from this!).

you can use airbrush colours to paint with.

if painting with lustre dust, it can take some experimenting to get the ration of alcohol to dust for the look you want. do you mean the mix got gooey, or your icing? it helps to colour your icing a similar colour first, so yellow icing for gold paint.
xx

Cute_lil_bean Posted 25 Nov 2010 , 8:29pm
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do you mean the mix got gooey, or your icing? it helps to colour your icing a similar colour first, so yellow icing for gold paint.
xx




Yeah my mix got very gooey. I don't think I used the right dust. Thank you so much for all this info. I'll give it another try.

Cute_lil_bean Posted 25 Nov 2010 , 11:46pm
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Hmm I think I used Wilton's "shimmer" dust as opposed to a luster dust. I'll order some luster dust and highlighter dust.

THe only problem is every site I look up says "highlighter dust" is not edible.

brincess_b Posted 26 Nov 2010 , 10:53am
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it appears that highlighter generally isnt edible. so lustre dust will work fine.
the less alcohol you add the more pastey it will be. the more alcohol you add, the thinner it will be. certainly wiltons products in this field do not work as well as other brands.
xx

bakingatthebeach Posted 26 Nov 2010 , 11:49pm
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I only use the wilton dusts when Im shading my gumpaste flowers. Ive also used nontoxic chalk for this too.

tavyheather Posted 27 Nov 2010 , 12:00am
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U can just paint with the airbrush color icon_wink.gif

Cute_lil_bean Posted 27 Nov 2010 , 2:51pm
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U can just paint with the airbrush color icon_wink.gif




I've tried this with silver paint before but I found it to be streaky and not as solid. I only used one coat though. Maybe I should've done a few additional ones.

tavyheather Posted 27 Nov 2010 , 5:01pm
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Originally Posted by Cute_lil_bean

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Originally Posted by tavyheather

U can just paint with the airbrush color icon_wink.gif



I've tried this with silver paint before but I found it to be streaky and not as solid. I only used one coat though. Maybe I should've done a few additional ones.




hmm... I had wonderful results w/ the Americolor gold...?? I started with yellow fondant though and waited until it was dry so maybe that helped?

tonedna Posted 27 Nov 2010 , 5:15pm
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Originally Posted by Cute_lil_bean

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Originally Posted by tavyheather

U can just paint with the airbrush color icon_wink.gif



I've tried this with silver paint before but I found it to be streaky and not as solid. I only used one coat though. Maybe I should've done a few additional ones.




Maybe you are diluting the powder too much
Edna icon_smile.gif

sweetaudrey Posted 23 Mar 2011 , 8:03am
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So I've heard that some people that use dusts on their flowers (regardless of non toxicity status) reccomend to their customers that they not eat them because of the dusts. So if I was going to use any form of dust that was considered non toxic and therefore, "edible," to paint or decorate large portions (if not all) of a cake...is this considered a bad thing? Would you take off the fondant/icing before serving? I just read that somewhere and it scared me so I thought I'd ask everyone on here. Thanks and I hope I don't sound too ignorant lol...still learning.

seedrv Posted 23 Mar 2011 , 12:06pm
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Originally Posted by bakingatthebeach

I only use the wilton dusts when Im shading my gumpaste flowers. Ive also used nontoxic chalk for this too.




What kind of chalk do you use? Kid's sidewalk kind of chalk?

pbhobby Posted 23 Mar 2011 , 12:20pm
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I have had a lot of luck with CK luster dust. Just like the others have already mentioned. I add a few drops of vodka until I get the right consistency. If you add too much just let it sit for a few mintues and the alcohol will evaporate. Then you can try again. I've used the CK "gold" luster dust several times with good results. The CK "Old Gold" isn't quite as shiney.

pbhobby Posted 23 Mar 2011 , 12:30pm
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Originally Posted by Cute_lil_bean

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Originally Posted by tavyheather

U can just paint with the airbrush color icon_wink.gif



I've tried this with silver paint before but I found it to be streaky and not as solid. I only used one coat though. Maybe I should've done a few additional ones.




I've had the same problem with with airbrush paint. Airbursh color works great in the airbursh but personally if I'm going to hand paint I prefer the CK luster dust mix with a small amount of vodka. That way I have more control over the consistency of the paint.

StephW Posted 23 Mar 2011 , 1:26pm
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Originally Posted by sweetaudrey

So I've heard that some people that use dusts on their flowers (regardless of non toxicity status) reccomend to their customers that they not eat them because of the dusts. So if I was going to use any form of dust that was considered non toxic and therefore, "edible," to paint or decorate large portions (if not all) of a cake...is this considered a bad thing? Would you take off the fondant/icing before serving? I just read that somewhere and it scared me so I thought I'd ask everyone on here. Thanks and I hope I don't sound too ignorant lol...still learning.





Beth Parvu and her husband make a line of completely edible dusts that can also be used to color icing. They are called crystal colors. Here is the link....

http://www.sugarpaste.com/colors/colors.htm

ajwonka Posted 23 Mar 2011 , 1:32pm
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Great info! Clarifies for me too!

pbhobby Posted 23 Mar 2011 , 3:08pm
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Originally Posted by StephW

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Originally Posted by sweetaudrey

So I've heard that some people that use dusts on their flowers (regardless of non toxicity status) reccomend to their customers that they not eat them because of the dusts. So if I was going to use any form of dust that was considered non toxic and therefore, "edible," to paint or decorate large portions (if not all) of a cake...is this considered a bad thing? Would you take off the fondant/icing before serving? I just read that somewhere and it scared me so I thought I'd ask everyone on here. Thanks and I hope I don't sound too ignorant lol...still learning.




Beth Parvu and her husband make a line of completely edible dusts that can also be used to color icing. They are called crystal colors. Here is the link....

http://www.sugarpaste.com/colors/colors.htm




I've also used these Crystal Colors. I like them alot.

sweetaudrey Posted 24 Mar 2011 , 4:05pm
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How do you use these to color fondant? Can you just nead it in?

KSMill Posted 24 Mar 2011 , 5:15pm
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I use only the Crystal Colors. If I'm coloring an entire batch of fondant the same color, I add it as I'm making the fondant, otherwise, just knead it in. After a few uses, you'll be able to guess about how much you'll need for the depth of color you want to accomplish.

cookiemama2 Posted 24 Mar 2011 , 5:30pm
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So Disco dust/ rainbow dust is non toxic but not edible... is there anything else that is that sparkly but edible?

Claireybear1121 Posted 24 Mar 2011 , 5:31pm
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I find that any time I need to achieve a metallic luster on something it is always necessary to apply several coats of whatever I'm using. I have purchased the bottles of pre-mixed edible gold paint (Gold Glaze) and it works quite nicely. As for the different kind of dusts, I appreciate the advice from other members, I don't use them often as I try to keep things as natural as possible, but good to know icon_smile.gif

sweetaudrey Posted 24 Mar 2011 , 5:53pm
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This is so interesting because you see all these cake shows on tv and hear from pro bakers about how they mix luster dust with vodka and paint entire tiers of cake! So if it's not edible...how is this possible? Maybe this is just a confusion and someone can help me out. But is this what I'm understanding correctly or am I misunderstanding? How can they paint huge amounts of cake with this stuff if it's really not edible?

jenmat Posted 24 Mar 2011 , 6:11pm
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so in that same vein, I'm fairly new to sugar flowers, at least adding dusts to them.
I have ordered dusts from sunflower sugar art and their petal dusts just don't seem to be very bold. They are downright wussy in my opinion. But I don't have much to compare it to. Most of my manuals show painting entire petals from say, white paste to dark african violet. With these dusts, that just doesn't seem possible!

Are these Crystal Colors a better way to achieve an more even, bold finish? I have heard of using straight powdered food color, and I was thinking about trying that.

sweettoothmom1 Posted 24 Mar 2011 , 9:16pm
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i think you can also use the paste colors and thin a bit with vodka.

sweetaudrey Posted 26 Mar 2011 , 4:16am
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I asked this before, but I'm guessing it go lost in the posts. So here it is again if anyone can respond that would be great!!

This is so interesting because you see all these cake shows on tv and hear from pro bakers about how they mix luster dust with vodka and paint entire tiers of cake! So if it's not edible...how is this possible? Maybe this is just a confusion and someone can help me out. But is this what I'm understanding correctly or am I misunderstanding? How can they paint huge amounts of cake with this stuff if it's really not edible?

cab333 Posted 26 Mar 2011 , 7:46pm
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Originally Posted by tavyheather

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Originally Posted by Cute_lil_bean

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Originally Posted by tavyheather

U can just paint with the airbrush color icon_wink.gif



I've tried this with silver paint before but I found it to be streaky and not as solid. I only used one coat though. Maybe I should've done a few additional ones.



hmm... I had wonderful results w/ the Americolor gold...?? I started with yellow fondant though and waited until it was dry so maybe that helped?





I too have recently tried the Americolor Gold and Silver, and loved the results! I did paint it directly on, and had to do two coats to get the look that I was going for....try two coats next time!

kakeladi Posted 26 Mar 2011 , 11:21pm
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Sweetaudrey - how can they? Why not *until someone takes you to task for it*??
They get away with it because the general public is not aware of the rateings on things like that and think since if it is shown on tv it must be o.k. And bakeries get away with it until some health dept employee finally cracks down.
I have had HD inspectors say you can't have a drink in the work area but I have seen many, many chef/cooks have a drink right near them. I saw this just last week at a local resturant. It just depends on when the inspector comes/what they see and what they say.......each one is different..,...each one hones in on one thing where as another lets it pass.

sweetaudrey Posted 27 Mar 2011 , 12:26am
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Oh ok. So You really shouldn't use those dusts on cakes? People just do it because they can get away with it? That makes sense I guess. thumbsdown.gif

bakingkat Posted 27 Mar 2011 , 1:52am
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I would say it's mostly the highlighter dusts that are non-edible. Most of the other dust are edible so it's fine to paint a cake with it. This thread had lots of good information, thanks guys! I just took over all of someones cake decorating supplies and i've pretty much always used gel colors, but now I have a ton of different dusts and I wasn't sure what all of their uses were. Helpful as always! icon_smile.gif Thanks

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