How Many Of Us Crumb Coat Cakes???...

Decorating By Mikel79 Updated 27 Aug 2010 , 8:59pm by Rose_N_Crantz

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Mikel79 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 2:33pm
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Hi Cakers!! icon_biggrin.gif

I am curious about crumb coating. Personally, I do not. I bought Sharon Zambito Buttecream DVD awhile ago and she states she does not do it either. I thought, if the best don't use it, then I don't need to!! =)

However, for those of you who do crumb coat, is there really a huge difference?

I don't get crumbs in my cakes, so I was wondering if crumb coating can help in any other ways??

Thanks,

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debbief Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 2:49pm
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I don't crumbcoat when I cover my cake in fondant. If it's just buttercream, then yes I crumbcoat it.

ETA: Ok so after I posted this, I looked at your gallery. Your cakes look great and you're right, no crumbs! I don't think I'd be able to get that clean look without crumbcoating first. You obviously got it down! thumbs_up.gif

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leily Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 2:51pm
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i don't crmbcoat either. i use the icer tip so i don't have to worry about pulling any of the cake up, i just smooth out the icing

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TexasSugar Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 2:53pm
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I don't crumb coat every cake. If it is chocolate cake, and I am using white icing and it seems to have some lose crumbs on it I will crumb coat.

If it is a carved cake that has exposed cuts, then I will crumb coat, especially since I don't use the cake icer tip alot on carved cakes.

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michel30014 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 3:00pm
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Generally, I don't crumbcoat either. Unless, it's a chocolate cake, then I will crumbcoat. I don't want the chocolate to show through if I'm using white frosting. If it's a colored frosting, I don't worry about it so much. I use buttercream for the most part and generally, my accents are in fondant but I haven't learned (yet) how to cover an entire cake with fondant. (I will learn one of these days!!)

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CWR41 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 3:02pm
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I don't, however, I can certainly appreciate the benefits of crumb coating on carved cakes.

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jones5cm Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 3:05pm
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I've always heard that crumb coating when you have to let tiers sit for any length of time helps retain moistness too; anyone else heard this?

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itscake Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 3:15pm
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I always crumb coat...for fondant covered cakes...and it does help to keep the cake moist...if you are working on several layers at a time...

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Mikel79 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 3:17pm
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Originally Posted by debbief

I don't crumbcoat when I cover my cake in fondant. If it's just buttercream, then yes I crumbcoat it.

ETA: Ok so after I posted this, I looked at your gallery. Your cakes look great and you're right, no crumbs! I don't think I'd be able to get that clean look without crumbcoating first. You obviously got it down! thumbs_up.gif




Thanks Debbie!!

All of my cakes are BC iced. In order for my cakes to settle, I place them in a food safe plastic bag. The bag keeps it nice and moist. This was a tip from Sharon Zambito on her BC DVD.

Thanks folks for replying!!

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cakesdivine Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 4:40pm
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If I don't have to trim or level the cake any or if using the icing tip then no, but if it is a carved cake or I have had to do alot of "surgery" to get it level or cut off edges then yes I crumb coat.

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ddaigle Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 4:53pm
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I always crumb coat every cake..every time and let sit in frig overnight to rest and firm up.

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Rose_N_Crantz Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 4:53pm
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I crumbcoat on a case by case basis. If the cake looks kinda crummy and I'm working with an icing that's rather stiff, then I do. But if the icing is easily spreadable, the cake isn't crummy, then no. I use a speed icer too, so that helps a lot.

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Loucinda Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 5:31pm
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If it is a cake for a client, it gets crumbcoated no matter what kind of cake it is. If it is for home use, I don't worry about it.

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janeoxo Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 5:47pm
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Originally Posted by ddaigle

I always crumb coat every cake..every time and let sit in frig overnight to rest and firm up.




Ditto

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sweet-thing Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 5:52pm
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Originally Posted by Loucinda

If it is a cake for a client, it gets crumbcoated no matter what kind of cake it is. If it is for home use, I don't worry about it.





Same here.

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Sassy74 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:02pm
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Same as TexasSugar. If it's a chocolate cake, or a red velvet cake (any cake with a dark crumb) then I crumbcoat. Also, if I carve, I crumbcoat. Otherwise, nope.

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awatterson Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:12pm
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Mikel79, your cakes are amazing! I wouldn't change I thing if I were you. Whatever you are doing is working for you!

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sugaah Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:14pm
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I need to crumb coat but I have the icer tip and would love to use it but i need a larger size bag rather than having to stop and refill after a swipe. Where would i purchase large size icing bag and what size should i get.

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HobbyCaker Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:14pm
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Originally Posted by janeoxo

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Originally Posted by ddaigle

I always crumb coat every cake..every time and let sit in frig overnight to rest and firm up.



Ditto




Me too!

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Rosie2 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:23pm
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I always feel I need to crumb coat...I mostly use the Wasc recipe and it has a lot of crumbs---does everyone has the same experience or is it me??
Can someone recommend a nice firm white cake to minimize on the crumb coating?

I noticed in Sharon Zambito's videos that she works with cakes that look soooo smooth and firm...is there a recipe here in CC for a firm but moist cake??

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leily Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:24pm
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Originally Posted by sugaah

I need to crumb coat but I have the icer tip and would love to use it but i need a larger size bag rather than having to stop and refill after a swipe. Where would i purchase large size icing bag and what size should i get.




Wherever wilton is sold they typically carry larger bags. (not disposable) I use a 20", but i bought mine at a restaurant supply store. I would suggest at least a 16", but i like the larger the better. I have only two bags that are not disposable and one is cut for the icer tip and the other is cut for the large tips like 2M.

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Mikel79 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:30pm
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Originally Posted by awatterson

Mikel79, your cakes are amazing! I wouldn't change I thing if I were you. Whatever you are doing is working for you!




Thank You!! Still practicing so I can come as close to perfection that I can! I have a looooong way yet!.

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Michael

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Mikel79 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:33pm
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Originally Posted by Rosie2

I always feel I need to crumb coat...I mostly use the Wasc recipe and it has a lot of crumbs---does everyone has the same experience or is it me??
Can someone recommend a nice firm white cake to minimize on the crumb coating?

I noticed in Sharon Zambito's videos that she works with cakes that look soooo smooth and firm...is there a recipe here in CC for a firm but moist cake??




I also use the WASC from this site. I don't find it to be that crumbly. But, different folks get different results =(

Sharon Zambito has told me via PM that she uses the WASC shown on this site. In her Back to Basics DVD she provides a booklet with recipes. There is the WASC and the DURABLE cake recipe. The durable is super tight crumb. However, very moist!!!

HTH =)
Michael

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imagenthatnj Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:43pm
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sugaah, I don't make cakes, but I buy a lot of toys... My icing tip came with a 24" bag and when I look at it, the size scares me. It's almost as long as my arm! I got it at PastryChef.com.

http://www.pastrychef.com/CAKE-ICER-BAG-WITH-TIP_p_1455.html

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Rosie2 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 6:48pm
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Originally Posted by Mikel79

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rosie2

I always feel I need to crumb coat...I mostly use the Wasc recipe and it has a lot of crumbs---does everyone has the same experience or is it me??
Can someone recommend a nice firm white cake to minimize on the crumb coating?

I noticed in Sharon Zambito's videos that she works with cakes that look soooo smooth and firm...is there a recipe here in CC for a firm but moist cake??



I also use the WASC from this site. I don't find it to be that crumbly. But, different folks get different results =(

Sharon Zambito has told me via PM that she uses the WASC shown on this site. In her Back to Basics DVD she provides a booklet with recipes. There is the WASC and the DURABLE cake recipe. The durable is super tight crumb. However, very moist!!!

HTH =)
Michael


Ahhh, thank you Michael, I will look for the video!

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indydebi Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 7:16pm
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I do simply because it just makes for a smoother cake when putting on the final coat of icing (for me). Once in a blue moon, I've had a great cake cooperate and the crumb coat turned into the actual final icing.

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cakeythings1961 Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 8:22pm
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Crumb coating works great for me, but only if I can chill it before putting on the final coat. Otherwise, I might just as well skip it.

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Rose_N_Crantz Posted 27 Aug 2010 , 8:59pm
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Originally Posted by imagenthatnj

sugaah, I don't make cakes, but I buy a lot of toys... My icing tip came with a 24" bag and when I look at it, the size scares me. It's almost as long as my arm! I got it at PastryChef.com.

http://www.pastrychef.com/CAKE-ICER-BAG-WITH-TIP_p_1455.html




I use a 24 inch bag too. I can't imagine base icing without it. I got some 10 inch bags from my mom once and I'm like "what the heck am I gonna do with this?"

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