What Happens When???

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jovigirl Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 12:34am
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I've read many times about people adding a piece of chocolate bar to their cupcake just befr baking... I'd like to try this tecnique , but i was hoping to find out ahead of time what happens to the chocolate once the cupcakes are baked & cooled??? Does is just melt while baking & incorporate with the batter? I will not be eating them while warm so I'm wondering if adding a piece of milk chocolate to a chocolate cupcake makes any difference?

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Jayde Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 12:43am
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I have heard that some people say that it creates a gooey center, but I have tried this with chocolate kisses and after they cool, they are just a hard blob of chocolate in the middle. Not a good thing if you are not expecting a hard ball of chocolate in the middle of your cuppy.

Now, I know that many people have talked about just thrusting in a large tip and filling a cuppy, but I prefer to take a small round circle cutter and make a small core in the middle. I can make a tiny one or a biger one (I usually do the big one) and then you can fill that with a rich gooey chocolate mousse or ganache. Much more edible, creamy and delish instead of a hard ball of chocolate.

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jonahsmom Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 1:39am
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I use the bismark tip (I think that's what it is!) to fill my cuppies. It's a long one with an angled hole at the tip. Just jab 'er in and squeeze. Be careful not to fill too full or you'll explode the cuppie, but if you just cause some cracking on top, its not a big deal as long as you're putting a nice big buttercream swirl on top! YUMMY!

I've never tried a solid piece of chocolate in the middle. I would think it would harden upon cooling. But I bet a reese's pb cup inside would be yummy!

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cupcakefrost Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 2:12am
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i have actually wondered this myself, and experimented with Kisses, PB cups, pieces of cookies, and even Ferrero Rocher and Lindt truffles. My favorite wasLindt truffles! they stayed melted after the cupcake cooled, and was absolutely delicious! be careful with your cupcake recipe, though, because it adds oils, o if you have a very moist recipe, cut down on the oil or it will be greasy when you bite into it.

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jovigirl Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 12:16pm
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i have actually wondered this myself, and experimented with Kisses, PB cups, pieces of cookies, and even Ferrero Rocher and Lindt truffles. My favorite wasLindt truffles! they stayed melted after the cupcake cooled, and was absolutely delicious! be careful with your cupcake recipe, though, because it adds oils, o if you have a very moist recipe, cut down on the oil or it will be greasy when you bite into it.



Did the Ferrero solidify once cooled? Sounds like a dilish combination!!!

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KHalstead Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 12:27pm
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Here's the thing with chocolate and chocolate candies........the chocolate candies like hershey's kisses, etc. are all tempered chocolate. Meaning it has been raised to a certain temperature and then cooled and raised and cooled (however the process goes) so that it WILL resolidify once it cools again.

If you use good quality untempered chocolate....once it melts it will not resolidify again. That's what you want to plunk into your cake batter!

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rvercher23 Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 12:34pm
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I like to make ganache using the 2:1 ratio, like for making truffles, and I make a round truffle, and stick that into my cupcake or mini-cakes.....yummy and melty!!!!

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cakesbymark Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 12:52pm
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i have done milkyways inside my cupcakes and after cooled...( were talking the next day) they had a nice gooey caramel centers and no hard blobs of chocolate...and my guests loved them..

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jovigirl Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 12:54pm
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If you use good quality untempered chocolate....once it melts it will not resolidify again. That's what you want to plunk into your cake batter!




What's a good brand of Chocolate to use then?
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Melvira Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 1:08pm
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Yah, I can agree with the yukiness of using kisses in the middle. They're great for about an hour. icon_rolleyes.gif Later they're hard again, and a little chalky from being baked. Yuk. But yah, ganache is another story. (And, Lindt truffles are either a gift directly from God, or an invention of Satan's. I've yet to figure that out.) icon_lol.gif

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jovigirl Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 2:34pm
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So do you use a full lindt truffle for a reg size cupcake ir just half?
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Spuddysmom Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 2:50pm
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(And, Lindt truffles are either a gift directly from God, or an invention of Satan's. I've yet to figure that out.) icon_lol.gif



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Melvira Posted 22 Jun 2010 , 3:13pm
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So do you use a full lindt truffle for a reg size cupcake ir just half?
sounds devine thumbs_up.gif Can't wait to try it icon_biggrin.gif




Well, I'm into decadence, so I've used the whole thing. icon_redface.gif I recently found the bags of Lindt truffles on sale at WalMart, the bags that are normally almost $4... $1!! I bought every bag they had! icon_redface.gif Checking out was fun that day. Of course they know me, so they weren't shocked!

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Yum2010 Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 12:46pm
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OOOOOHHHHHHH!!! I LOVE Lindt truffles!! I will def be trying them in my cuppies for the 4th coming up! Thanks!

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confectionsofahousewife Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 12:55pm
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Well, I'm into decadence




I think more people should be into decadence! I certainly am.

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Melvira Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 1:07pm
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icon_biggrin.gif Amen sista!!

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PinkZiab Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 1:30pm
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Here's the thing with chocolate and chocolate candies........the chocolate candies like hershey's kisses, etc. are all tempered chocolate. Meaning it has been raised to a certain temperature and then cooled and raised and cooled (however the process goes) so that it WILL resolidify once it cools again.




Sorry to get all technical, but tempered chocolate only remains tempered until it's heated. If you take a tempered piece of REAL chocolate and heat it (either through baking or other means) it will lose temper. Will it resolidify somewhat? Yes, but it will never completely reset to temper and it will be softer then it was before. Hershey's kisses--while they are real chocolate--also have other additives to help them hold their shape even when they get warm/hot and re-cool, although even then they won't complete reset perfectly.

Good, high quality, pure chocolate is always sold tempered and must be tempered anytime it is re-melted and used That is the reason it will stay soft if you bake it in the middle of something, because it will fall out of temper through the baking process and it doesn't have the added stable fats that many commercial chocolates (like hershey does) to help it stay in a tempered-like state.

As far as the original question goes, you'll have better luck with a filled candy (like a mini peanut butter cup) so it's not a solid lump of chocolate and it will remain somewhat soft after baking.

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LindaF144a Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 3:01pm
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Yah, I can agree with the yukiness of using kisses in the middle. They're great for about an hour. icon_rolleyes.gif Later they're hard again, and a little chalky from being baked. Yuk. But yah, ganache is another story. (And, Lindt truffles are either a gift directly from God, or an invention of Satan's. I've yet to figure that out.) icon_lol.gif




My heat is palpitating just thinking of biting into a cupcake and finding this surprise. I'm putting Lundt truffles into my next batch of cupcakes. Now do I just lay it on top and let it fall in as it cooks, or do I put some batter down, lay the truffle and then more batter?
Thanks.

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Melvira Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 4:09pm
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The way I do it is to freeze the truffles because they'll stand up a little better to the heat. I use a scoop to measure my cupcakes, so I just plop a scoop of batter in there, then drop the truffle on top and push it down into the batter. You can plop a little more batter on top if it's not covered. The large truffle are really good for jumbo cuppies too. Or, you can make your own rather thick ganache, let set, then roll smaller truffles, freeze, and do the same.

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Echooo3 Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 4:23pm
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Melvira you always have the greatest ideas and are always so freely giving of your information Thank you for that.

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Melvira Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 4:26pm
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Melvira you always have the greatest ideas and are always so freely giving of your information Thank you for that.




Bless your heart, sweetie! Thank you for that. I just like knowing that there are still a few of you out there that appreciate and enjoy me! icon_lol.gif

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cutthecake Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 4:32pm
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Didn't Ruth Wakefield invent the chocolate chip cookie by grating or chopping chocolate into cookies?

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Melvira Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 4:37pm
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That's the story I read. thumbs_up.gif And that they named them after her tollhouse. I think that's a really cool story! Here's a link to one version of it. I don't endorse this site or anything like that, this is just one of the many that comes up when you google it. http://www.kitchenproject.com/history/AmericanHeritageRecipes/ChocolateChipCookie/

ETA: Sorry, Toll House, not Tollhouse. icon_lol.gif

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sugalips Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 4:47pm
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Has anyone tried putting a marshmallow in with it to keep it gooey?

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Melvira Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 5:05pm
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Now there's an idea. I have not tried that. Do you mean to melt the chocolate and marshmallow together first? (I just want to be sure I get the idea and don't go running amok in my mind. I do that enough!) icon_surprised.gificon_lol.gif

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sugalips Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 8:31pm
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I have a recipe where the "surprise" in the middle was the gooey marshmallow so if the chocolate melted with the mm.....?? icon_rolleyes.gif Looks like another experiment!

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sweet56pooh Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 9:12pm
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If I made some ganache using semi-sweet chocolate morsels and used that to fill my cupcakes. Am I going to be expecting the same results as if I put the Hershey's kisses? A piece of hard rock chocolate? Oh, and I froze my cuppies after filling too. Was this a mistake? Thanks!!

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Dolledupcakes Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 9:23pm
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So do you use a full lindt truffle for a reg size cupcake ir just half?
sounds devine thumbs_up.gif Can't wait to try it icon_biggrin.gif



Well, I'm into decadence, so I've used the whole thing. icon_redface.gif I recently found the bags of Lindt truffles on sale at WalMart, the bags that are normally almost $4... $1!! I bought every bag they had! icon_redface.gif Checking out was fun that day. Of course they know me, so they weren't shocked!




Lindt truffles are dangerous... icon_cry.gif
Can you melt Lindt and add it into the batter? I want to try other chocolates for my recipes...

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Kitagrl Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 9:36pm
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Peanut butter Lindt truffles are soooooooooo sinfully good....

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KKristy Posted 1 Jul 2010 , 9:42pm
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ya'll are in trouble....now I am sitting here craving truffles and marshmallows and I can't concentrate on anything , lol !
I foresee many baking experiments going on because of this topic !
Did you see Bakerella's recent post about putting brownies inside of chocolate chip cookies...yum

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