Duff's Fondant Question-Urgent!

Decorating By Lcubed82 Updated 9 Jun 2010 , 2:06pm by Lcubed82

Lcubed82 Posted 3 Jun 2010 , 7:03pm
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I needed black for loopy bows, so got Duff's and added 1 tsp Tylose to 1lb. fondant. Rolled well, cut well, formed loops well. 4 days later, they are "dry" but flexible. I am not sure if the loops will stand up, or collapse from their weight.

I mixed Wilton/tylose same proportions, then colored orange, and they are much more stable. I didn't use Wilton black, because I would have to buy two boxes to get enough, and have the other colors left over. GRR! I wish they had large packs of Wilton black!

Any ideas on drying these more, firming them up? Or am I going to need to go buy Wilton black, or color gumpaste, and redo these loops? Of course, I need for Sunday, which is why I started a week ahead!

I think I will lay one loop down, and see what it does over the next few hours, till I have to do something!

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lizabu Posted 3 Jun 2010 , 7:20pm
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For black bow loops nothing works better than pastillage. You can mix colouring in with the pastillage but when it dries it will only be grey. You can paint the dry loops with a mixture of food coloring and alcohol like rum or vodka to make it dry fast. A pasta machine is a gem when rolling out the ribbons too.

Lcubed82 Posted 3 Jun 2010 , 7:34pm
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Do you have a recipe for pastillage that is TNT? Can I airbrush the loops without them getting too sticky?

lizabu Posted 3 Jun 2010 , 7:53pm
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This is a great resource for pastillage http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/69493-demo-intro-to-pastillage/
Airbrushing should work. This stuff is like a rock when it dries. Unless you are like drenching it it should be ok.

KTB4 Posted 3 Jun 2010 , 9:46pm
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I haven't managed to get Duff's fondant to dry on it's own, even mixed with gum tex. The only success I had with it was when I mixed it with Wilton's.

sberryp Posted 3 Jun 2010 , 10:24pm
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Wow, you really do not want your bow to look like mine. lol The weight of the bows were too heavy and plop...went the bow.lol Hope you find the answer soon.

Lcubed82 Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 12:15am
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5 hours later, and the one loop still looks loopy! I have now turned all of them to see how they sit overnight. It has been rather humid the first part of this week, so maybe they will be OK now that we've haven't had rain since last night!

If this doesn't work, I guess I'll be gumpasting or pastillaging tomorrow, and airbrushing for my black!

(Don't cha love made-up words!)

cheatize Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 4:03am
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I tried to make 2 teeny arms for a figure today. I added gum-tex and it was as floppy as if I hadn't added anything. I think his stuff just soaks it up and spits it out somewhere invisible to the naked eye. LOL

Lcubed82 Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 4:13am
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"I think his stuff just soaks it up and spits it out somewhere invisible to the naked eye. LOL"

So funny! I'll let you know how my loops are in the morning!

Lcubed82 Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 3:19pm
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My loops are still standing! My worry seems to be for naught! Cake layers everywhere! Thank goodness I don't have to redo the bow loops! Just have to put it together.

lmra323 Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 3:35pm
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OMG! I was JUST getting ready to post the EXACT same question!!! I also bought his black fondant because I would have needed 2 packs of the Wilton and I also can't get mine to dry! I'm making tap and jazz shoes as a cake topper. I also mixed it with gumpaste!!

I also lost the 'shine' of the original fondant. How can I make the shoes 'shine'????

ACK!!!!!!

cheatize Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 4:30pm
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Yay! I'm glad it worked! I just got a cake order for next week that will include a fondant figure so I really needed this figured out.

CNCS Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 4:47pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lmra323

OMG! I was JUST getting ready to post the EXACT same question!!! I also bought his black fondant because I would have needed 2 packs of the Wilton and I also can't get mine to dry! I'm making tap and jazz shoes as a cake topper. I also mixed it with gumpaste!!

I also lost the 'shine' of the original fondant. How can I make the shoes 'shine'????

ACK!!!!!!




I read somewhere you can spray them with cooking spray. Havent tried it yet.

I'd rather brush them with a damp pastry brush myself.

lizabu Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 5:26pm
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I have a book that recommends brushing a little shortening on. When I read that I didn't have any shortening so I brushed on a little vegetable oil and it was nice and shiny and you couldn't taste it.

cakemadam21 Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 5:59pm
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When I used it and added tylose, it still didn't get really firm. If I ever bought it again, I would probably only use it for covering and maybe some simple pieces that didn't require extreme firmness.

PDXSweetTreats Posted 4 Jun 2010 , 7:00pm
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Lizabu,

What a great link! Lots of information and the photos that go along with the instructions are really helpful. icon_smile.gif

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Originally Posted by lizabu

This is a great resource for pastillage http://forums.egullet.org/index.php?/topic/69493-demo-intro-to-pastillage/
Airbrushing should work. This stuff is like a rock when it dries. Unless you are like drenching it it should be ok.


Lcubed82 Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 3:44am
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Though the black loops were definitely more flexible, they held up OK. One loop started to droop towards the end of the graduation reception at church. I actually still have the bow here at home now, with paper towel stuck in that loop to hold it up. Otherwise, it looks wonderful! I will try to post pix tomorrow.

I probably will not use Duff fondant/tylose for loops again, as the stress wasn't worth it! I'll just take a little time to color gumpaste.

Lcubed82 Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 4:20am
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Here is the cake and the bow. Only one droopy loop, and it's not really that bad!
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roosterroses Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 4:35am
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Your cake looks great!!! For more stable loops, you can knead some white gumpaste into the colored fondant.

PDXSweetTreats Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 4:37am
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Linda,

Your cake and the bow turned out GREAT! I'm sure no one even noticed the one bow loop -- if you hadn't pointed it out, you would miss it entirely. Great job! icon_smile.gif

Jess1019 Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 5:07am
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The only thing I have found Duff fondant to be good for is pushing through the clay gun. It is super soft so it doesn't kill your hand. I had attempted roses but the cones NEVER dried.

jerseygirlNga Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 5:35am
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Your cake turned out great...

I was contacted on Saturday evening to have a cake due on Monday...at 4PM. So...at 11:40 PM...I started making loopy bows!

I never made oen before so I prayed alot! To me, if the results turn out fine, there is no right or wrong.

Here is what worked for me:
Made a mix of 70/30 ...that is 70% gumpaste/30% fondant mix...put it through the pasta machine to make them uniform and thin. Used Wilton cake supports as my dowel rack supported by books on either side. (gotta make do when you don't have what you need, right?) To help form and used cosmetic sponges and fiber fill to hold the shape. Stuck them inside the oven, turned on the light and shut the door! When I checked on Sunday night...they were doing great and removed the sponges and fill. (Fiber fill was a tip from Nicholas Lodge's class)

I assembled on Monday and it worked out better than fine. The bows held their shape and when I needed some smaller than what I had...I was able to take the knife and trim them. They were dry enough, yet still pliable.

Lcubed82 Posted 9 Jun 2010 , 2:06pm
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"The only thing I have found Duff fondant to be good for is pushing through the clay gun"

I agree! The thin black lines are extruded, which was very easy to do.

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