OMGoodness!!!! My husband just figured up (for the 1st time) that EACH BATCH of icing costs $8.90.
For the SMALLEST (8" AND 6") 2- tiered cake, I use 2-2.5 batches of icing. That means that at least $18 if that cake is JUST THE COST OF ICING!!! The cost of the cake is $7-$8. The cake box is $1, and the 2 boards that I use are $2. The fondant cost for this size cake is AT LEAST $5-$8. So that is a total of $33- $37.
I charge $60 for this cake with fondant work. It takes me at least 3-4 hrs to make and decorate one of these. So that means my 3-4 hrs of work makes me around $25. Maybe I should apply at McDonald's?????? I would make more per hr, apparently!
I honestly had NO IDEA that I had that much cost!! (I had figured about 20 bucks in cost for a cake this size). WOW! I'm still in shock...
Wow, that seems like a lot...I can make a batch of icing for less than $5. Do you live in a high cost area?
I don't think so... I would have thought my area was LOW cost, if anything. I use brand name shortening and Dream Whip in it- that's what adds the biggest portion of the cost.
you'd be surprised at how much cake batter, icing recipes, fllings all cost to make, then add on the box, the foil, the board, a little for over head, it all adds up. Cakeboss really opened my eyes to this. I wish everyone looked at what it was really costing them.
kansaslaura- I don't think I put more than average???
Sweetcakes- I wish I had figured this b4 now!!!!
Yup.
I only do free cakes, but a while back I decided to figure out what my little hobby was actually costing me. I came up with a $1.00 per serving.
People are shocked when I tell them that they can buy a Wal-Mart cake for less than it costs me just for ingredients.
This is one case where home-made is definitely not cheaper.
it's great that you shared your experience. A lot of people don't take the time to actually figure up what a cake cost them. They just charge a number and then divide that total by how many hours they put into it. Which may sound good for an hourly rate, but as you found out, at your prices you are not even making minimum wage.
Yup, yup, ayup. My frosting isn't that high but it all adds up, doesn't it? I created an Excel file for myself so I can just input the amounts used and labor hours (estimated) and it gives me the cost of the cake. It needs updated since grocery prices have risen, but a year ago the average overhead costs alone for a 3 tier cake was $13.80. Just for overhead- and I don't have a storefront.
oh yeah, this little hobby can suck the life out of your wallet. I did a wedding cake for a friend at cost. It was 160.00 dollars just for the ingredients !!! I have to hand it to her she didnt bat an eye, she hauled out her checkbook and said, you can depoist this today, girlfriend. IT is good when your friends actually know WHAT & HOW MUCH goes into a cake.
I'm in the same boat with my cost and pricing. My husband constantly reminds me of my ingredient costs and that I'm under pricing. I'vr been charging $45 for a 9-6 and it cost me $23-30 just for ingredients (including fondant). I know that's way too low. I'd love to charge more and it make it really worth my time but pricing is just the toughest part for me.
Btw, I'm in south ga too!
I don't think so... I would have thought my area was LOW cost, if anything. I use brand name shortening and Dream Whip in it- that's what adds the biggest portion of the cost.
How much icing do you put on your cakes?
I use Indydebi's recipe and it cost me less than $4.00 for each batch that I make. The Dream Whip is the most exensive item and 3 tablespoons cost me roughly $1.29. My ps is $1.50, 1 1/3 cup of crisco is about .90 and the vanilla is only a few cents. I use only about half of the recipe to ice my cakes so it actually cost me about $2.00 or so. I crumbcoat with this icing and my final coat of icing is about 1/4 of an inch thick. Still I use only about half of the recipe.
I'm trying to understand how it cost you $8.90 to ice a 6/8 inch tiered cake.
I've figured my total cost for a 6/8 inch tiered cake I use origional WASC by kakeladi, Indydebi's buttercream, Michele Foster's White Chocolate Fondant and it cost me a total of $16.00 for the entire cake. This is just the cost of the ingredients. I'm factoring in everything. I wouldn't be able to do cakes for my family if it cost me that much to make icing.
my mom can attest that this is a truely expensive hobby but we dont buy anything unless its on sale or we have a coupon.
My most recent cake cost me 96.00. It was over 200 servings- and the top tier was a dummy. Nope- not a cheap hobby at all!
I'm with mamawrobin, how much icing do you put on your cakes? I use Indydebi's icing recipe, and I just recently did a full sheet cake (18'x24") and it took me about 2 1/2 batches to crumb coat, final layer of icing, and decorate and I still had a good amount left over.
I wonder if your icing recipe makes a smaller amount, but it still seems very expensive for icing...
Don't forget to factor in that things CAN go wrong....and that amount that you added up is IF everything goes perfectly from start to finish the first time around!
--The vanilla can get spilled
--the cake could split beyond repair
--you could drop the cake
--The fondant can get mis-applied and then have too much icing on it to try again....
I think about that more and more....because you really do have to factor in for your own mistakes, too!
Yes ma'am, a very, very expensive hobby!
Nope not cheap. I'm just a hobbiest and if my husband knew how much I spent on "free" cakes for our families, I think his head would explode But I love doing it, wouldn't give it up for the world
I am a hobby baker to...my DH has no clue how much it cost me to do all of the cakes that I do for friends and family. So SHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't tell him! Lol!
I wish clients knew how much "simple" cakes really do cost. I get them in for consultations and they are shocked when the total comes. Sometimes I wish they would try to make a carved fondant covered cake just once. I had a client who wanted a car cake for 40 guests for $50.00 and when I gave them the actually total they were shocked.
I am a hobby baker to...my DH has no clue how much it cost me to do all of the cakes that I do for friends and family. So SHHHHHHHHHHHH! Don't tell him! Lol!
I'm not exactly forthcoming with the $ of ingredients to my DH either but if he called me on it, I can just point to the stack of unopened video games he has yet to play!
Don't forget these additional costs: dish soap, paper towels, Saran Wrap, Aluminum Foil (if you freeze your cakes), water, electricity, and you need to figure in the cost for wear and tear on your oven and dishwasher. And, the gasoline it takes to deliver the cake.
Amen to all that.... home made fresh cakes are EXPENSIVE! and it is not my hobby it is my career.
Clients are ALWAYS so surprised by the price... "oh but I only wanted to spend_____" equivalent to buck and a half or two per serving for one of the fanciest flavors and designs they could pick. OH....and if my DH had a clue how much money I have tied up in equipment and ingredients he would go psycho on me!
I was reorganizing the bakery yesterday.... first impression molds, cake pans, gumpaste flower cutters, impression mats, embossing rolling pins, cake plateaus, cake stands, airbrush, edible printer, sugarveil, boxes, cake boards, dummy cakes, tweezers, pliers, you name it and as glendale said not even to mention the dish soap, paper towels, plastic wrap, ziplock bags, electricity etc..... then there is the cakeboss program, the website, the labor hours emailing clients back.....
I must be CRAZY. But I do love what I do. Just hope I can keep the bills paid!!!!
I did my figures to double check and my maximum icing cost is less than $5.
That will ice a 2 layer 9 inch, so it would be less than 2 batches (or $10) to frost that size cake.
What recipe do you use that has such expensive ingredients; imported chocolate, $3 each vanilla beans, or something?
Back in the day when I took classes from Country Kitchen in Indiana, it was explained to us that you figure the cost of your ingredients then TRIPLE that price. This would cover most everything...electric, your time, etc. Of course if you had to add extras to the cake, you charged accordingly. Haven't figured it out in a good while though since I really don't do many cakes anymore & don't sell anything.
Don't forget these additional costs: dish soap, paper towels, Saran Wrap, Aluminum Foil (if you freeze your cakes), water, electricity, and you need to figure in the cost for wear and tear on your oven and dishwasher. And, the gasoline it takes to deliver the cake.
Most true yet!!!! and you forgot the actual hassle of cleaning up, scary and overwhelming sometimes.I am just not going to cost that part grrrrrrrrhhhh!!!!.
On average, after I take all of my expenses into account, including advertising, operating costs, materials, etc., I net annually about 2/3 of my gross receipts. My food costs are NEVER more than 1/10 of the total gross for the week.
Yeah this is generally why when I make cakes for friends parties and their friends say "Oh you should do this for a living"
I say "No"
Which is usually followed by "But why you could make money?!"
And I say "Because I have a job."
Don't ever use ganache to torte and cover your cakes with before covering in fondant. This is what I do, as I was taught the planet cake method, but geeeezz it's expensive.
Plus I really only make mud cakes, which are probably the most expensive type of cake to make. I am expensive, but I also should be charging more. I'm happy to get a bit less for now. But plan on bumping my prices up.
People just have absolutely no idea of what it costs to make cake because nobody does it these days...
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