So Torn!!! Cricut Expressions Of Cricut Cake????

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blue123 Posted 21 Apr 2010 , 9:32pm
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I have read the debate, am leaning toward the expression, but.....still have no clear answer. Will the Cricut cake do the same things as the Expression (Paper, fabric, etc.)? I would appreciate any input...thank you!

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metria Posted 21 Apr 2010 , 9:46pm
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it seems to me that you shouldn't use the same machine for both papercraft and foodcraft projects for food safety reasons.

JudyDP Posted 21 Apr 2010 , 10:01pm
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Originally Posted by blue123

I have read the debate, am leaning toward the expression, but.....still have no clear answer. Will the cake do the same things as the Expression (Paper, fabric, etc.)? I would appreciate any input...thank you!




YES....It will do the same thing.

blue123 Posted 21 Apr 2010 , 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by JudyDP

Quote:
Originally Posted by blue123

I have read the debate, am leaning toward the expression, but.....still have no clear answer. Will the cake do the same things as the Expression (Paper, fabric, etc.)? I would appreciate any input...thank you!



YES....It will do the same thing.




So, basically, it's really all about the price?

metria Posted 21 Apr 2010 , 10:09pm
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it's my understanding that it's the same as the Expression but the parts that come in contact with material are 100% food safe. and it's a shiny, pretty red.

shanasweets Posted 21 Apr 2010 , 10:23pm
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you can use the expression for cake, i have one set of mats, markers and deep housing blade only for food and other set for paper. The cricket cake is 100% food safe but also has a better housing and blade. It can cut things a little thicker also better than expression. you can by the food safe mats and use in either machine, but my understanding that is the only thing that is interchangeable. The is a blog that compares the two. cutting edge cake i think is its name. if you don't buy the cake mats, you have to take the sticky off the regular mat before using it for food.

drummerg68 Posted 21 Apr 2010 , 11:42pm
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I found this Comparison online its towards the bottom of the page.

http://www.cuttingedgecakeart.com/blog.php

fondantfrenzy Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 1:44am
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1. First you need gumpaste. Fondant is too soft and doesn't dry fast enough. If you can't find gumpaste, mix about 1 tbs of gum-tex per lb of fondant.

2. Roll out gumpaste into a thin 'sheet' using pasta machine. You need to get the gumpaste as thin as you can get it without being able to see through it when you hold it up.

3. Let gumpaste dry slightly - just dry enough to hold it's shape but not so dry that it cracks or isn't at all pliable. This is the most important thing about all of this - too wet and it makes it bunch up too dry and it pushes it ....

4. Prepare mat - remove glue form cricut mat OR use the backside of it! OR get a regular plastic chopping mat found a the Dollar store and if necessary cut it down to fit your machine. Lightly 'grease' with Crisco/shortening - this will act as the 'glue' to hold the gumpaste while being cut.

5. If making a small cut, position gumpaste or image 'between' the machines rollers (so that they don't leave a mark on your image). If making a large cut you need to move the middle rollers to the sides.

6. Use any cartridge you have for your cricut to cut out gumpaste images or use any SVG file you have via SCAL or MTC software.

Machine Used: Cricut Expression
Blade: the regular blade (not the deep cut one)
Pressure Setting: settings vary depending on how dense/stiff the gumpaste has gotten - mine is usually set to 4 but I've also used 5. What I do is make a test strip of gumpaste and then play with the pressure setting until it works/I get the result I want.
Speed: is always set to medium (by default) - I just leave it there.

If you search Google and YouTube you will find various methods for cutting gumpaste and for cutting a cool prodcut called SugarVeil. Plus a lady who is selling a video she put together. I've never seen it so can't comment on it's content. And Provo Craft (the company that makes the Cricut) has now built and is selling a version of the machine just for cake decorating. I'm sure others will follow

SuperJoy Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 1:58pm
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I wrote this post comparing the Cricut Expression and the Cricut Cake that you might find helpful. thumbs_up.gif
http://joyslife.com/how-the-cricut-cake-machine-is-different-from-the-cricut-expression/

Sweet-Sensation-Cakery Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 3:25pm
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There really is not a different. Linda McClure started the use of the cricut for cakes and she used the regular cricut expression. They stole the ideal from her and came out with the cake cricut checkout her video on you tube. Also google her and go to her website. The cake cricut is just for that company to make money. The cake is just hype. Watch there video also on youtube. People are asking them at the show and they can't really tell them anything different.

SpecialtyCakesbyKelli Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 3:36pm
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I don't know about expressions...but I'm loving my cricut cake! Takes a little tweeking to get it right, but so far I have been doing fine with it!

GGFan Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 3:46pm
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How about all the copyright or licence fee that they were talking about? Can we avoid that by using SCAL and not the cartridges?

SuperJoy Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 3:57pm
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How about all the copyright or licence fee that they were talking about? Can we avoid that by using SCAL and not the cartridges?





They have a new policy:
From Cricut Message Board Administrator Cara Cloward:
There have been a lot of questions about the Angel Policy and how it
applies to those who have and will purchase Cricut Cake. After
thoughtful consideration, Provo Craft has come to a conclusion that
we know will please our Cricut Cake fans. Starting now and moving
forward, Provo Craft content used in cutting edible material in
connection with the Cricut Cake machine is exempt from the Angel
Policy. We know many of you are interested in making and selling
cakes, cupcakes, cookies and other sweet treats and we are certain
this decision will support your endeavors. If you have any
questions, please feel free to call Provo Craft customer service at
877-7CRICUT.

Here's a link to their angel policy:
http://www.provocraft.com/company/legal/angel.policy.php

GGFan Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 4:40pm
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Thank you so much Superjoy icon_biggrin.gif

ChristysCakes88 Posted 22 Apr 2010 , 4:42pm
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Originally Posted by blue123

I have read the debate, am leaning toward the expression, but.....still have no clear answer. Will the cake do the same things as the Expression (Paper, fabric, etc.)? I would appreciate any input...thank you!




I have the Cricut Expression and I also ordered the Cricut Cake during the HSN launch. I have read and read and read about this and made my own decision about it. The Expression will do what the Cake does and the Cake will do what the expression does BUT and a big BUT in my opinion....The Cake is made with all food safe parts and the E is not. I personally would not want to eat a cake that was made with a machine that had been used for both paper and food. Also the blade is different on the cake machine. There is no way for icing/fondant/dough to get stuck in the blade housing but this can happen on the E. Also, everything on the inside of the Cake is stainless steel so it can be cleaned easily.

I think it is really up to each person what they would want to do. And this is just my opinion. And NO I do not work for PC!! HAHA icon_lol.gif

BACI Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 3:28pm
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OK - Now to throw a monkey wrench into the mix... Can you use the Original Cricut machine on fondant/gumpaste?? AC Moore has it in sale for $99 & cricut cartridges for about $40. I'm a hobby baker & don"t need to buy the Cricut Cake (yet! icon_lol.gif ) - but also don't want to buy an expensive paperweight! icon_rolleyes.gif

If anyone has used or knows anything about using the Cricut Original I'd love to get some feedback!

(Sorry - did a forum search & so much Cricut came up didnt know where to start!)

Thanks in advance! icon_smile.gif

Ange1mom Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 4:53pm
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The creator of this technique, Linda McClure, is now offering classes on it. If you are in the area she is teaching you can sign up to take her class BEFORE you go buy a machine. You will learn all about using all different kinds of electronic paper cutters and software like SCAL and MTC. I know she will be in Rocky Mount, NC in June 2010. You can go to her website and email her for more details. Her site is deseretdesigns.com
Hugs,
Angie B in NC

lyndim Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 5:19pm
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I'm wondering if in the near future the price of the circuit cake will come down. If the only difference is the food safe issue parts and a longer blade, it seems that the cost to make the circuit cake is the same as the expression. Maybe once the "hype" of the cir. cake wears down the price will come down too. icon_cool.gif

ctinaw Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 8:19pm
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I bought the cricut cake because it's marketed as being "food safe" and seemed like it might be easier to clean. I do also plan on using it for paper cutting - though I'll use a separate blade and blade housing - and of course the mat that is made for paper cutting. I am not really into scrapbooking but I think making cards for people might be fun.

tiggy2 Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 8:33pm
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I think the big difference might be not having to clean the blade after each cut. I used my expression and had to take the blade out and clean it after each et of cuts. Supposedly you wont have that problem with the cake. I pre ordered mine a couple of months ago and am waiting for it to arrive.

CiNoRi Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 8:50pm
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Originally Posted by Ange1mom

The creator of this technique, Linda McClure, is now offering classes on it. If you are in the area she is teaching you can sign up to take her class BEFORE you go buy a machine. You will learn all about using all different kinds of electronic paper cutters and software like SCAL and MTC. I know she will be in Rocky Mount, NC in June 2010. You can go to her website and email her for more details. Her site is
Hugs,
Angie B in NC




Hey!

Im near Rocky Mount and would love to go to her class... where do i get info? (the link was banned)

Thanks!!

ctinaw Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 8:54pm
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Originally Posted by tiggy2

I think the big difference might be not having to clean the blade after each cut. I used my expression and had to take the blade out and clean it after each et of cuts. Supposedly you wont have that problem with the cake. I pre ordered mine a couple of months ago and am waiting for it to arrive.




The only time I had to really "clean out" the blade was after trying to cut some cut out cookies - the dough kept wanting to gum up in the blade. Fondant hasn't been messy though.

brooklyncaillouet Posted 23 Apr 2010 , 9:07pm
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Originally Posted by Ange1mom

The creator of this technique, Linda McClure, is now offering classes on it. If you are in the area she is teaching you can sign up to take her class BEFORE you go buy a machine. You will learn all about using all different kinds of electronic paper cutters and software like SCAL and MTC. I know she will be in Rocky Mount, NC in June 2010. You can go to her website and email her for more details. Her site is
Hugs,
Angie B in NC




Any mention of the McClure's web site is always removed. She is still in time out for answering someone's question and refering them to it for the imformation they needed
www. deseretdesigns . com She is more then happy to answer your questions and has been a great help to me.

Ange1mom Posted 24 Apr 2010 , 12:08am
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I am sorry I didn't know you couldn't put other people's websites on here. Is it okay if I give you my website and you can email me from my contact page? amemoryworthmaking com is mine, once you email me I can then pass along her website. She has been super helpful to me. I am sorry others have had issues. I LOVE the technique she created though and I cannot wait to take the class and soooo close to home!
Hugs,
Angie B in NC

Ange1mom Posted 24 Apr 2010 , 12:14am
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I just thought of another thing you could do...search Google for Deseret Designs or Linda McClure. Her website should come up for you. I hope to see you at her class in Rocky Mount, NC! I can't wait!
Hugs,
Angie B in NC

blue123 Posted 24 Apr 2010 , 12:50am
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I want to than everyone for all of their time and input. You all have been very helpful. icon_biggrin.gif

CiNoRi Posted 24 Apr 2010 , 3:17am
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I emailed Linda earlier this evening about getting class info <it is no on their home website> I just got a response back from Her husband Jeff:

"The class will be held 10-11June in Rocky Mount. The class costs $400 for the two days, and is going to certify students to be instructors in the Creative Designs method, which Linda invented / developed. It will be very good, with each student having a computer to use, and access to several different types of cutters. I have attached a flyer from the class we are doing in Natchez, MS in May (it's full). Details like location, etc are different but the class will be the same.

We'll have a full description at www dot creativedesignsclasses dot com."

I'm sure that class is going to be loaded with good info... im' just really discouraged of the price. Especially for those looking to take the class to get a feel for the new Cricut...for that cost I can get the Cricut Cake... then research and figure it out...

I don't mean to be so negative.... its just disheartening, i want to support the information and ideas of other cakers and to learn from the best is awesome...but sometimes i feel the costs of some of these classes out there has gotten a little nuts... Am i crazy?

Ivy383 Posted 24 Apr 2010 , 3:42am
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I have the expression and the cake. I love the expressions because it's great on paper. I just used my cricut cake tonight for the second time and I got good results. icon_smile.gif I think you will like the Cricut Cake.

zoraya Posted 24 Apr 2010 , 3:57am
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Originally Posted by BACI

OK - Now to throw a monkey wrench into the mix... Can you use the Original machine on fondant/gumpaste?? AC Moore has it in sale for $99 & cartridges for about $40. I'm a hobby baker & don"t need to buy the Cake (yet! icon_lol.gif ) - but also don't want to buy an expensive paperweight! icon_rolleyes.gif

If anyone has used or knows anything about using the Original I'd love to get some feedback!

(Sorry - did a forum search & so much came up didnt know where to start!)

Thanks in advance! icon_smile.gif




Yes you can use the little one. I bought that one to use for fondant so I wouldn't ruin my E that I use for scrapbooking. It works perfect you just can't cut out huge pieces to put on the top of the cake. HTH

tiggy2 Posted 24 Apr 2010 , 1:03pm
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Originally Posted by CiNoRi

I emailed Linda earlier this evening about getting class info <it is no on their home website> I just got a response back from Her husband Jeff:

"The class will be held 10-11June in Rocky Mount. The class costs $400 for the two days, and is going to certify students to be instructors in the Creative Designs method, which Linda invented / developed. It will be very good, with each student having a computer to use, and access to several different types of cutters. I have attached a flyer from the class we are doing in Natchez, MS in May (it's full). Details like location, etc are different but the class will be the same.

We'll have a full description at www dot creativedesignsclasses dot com."

I'm sure that class is going to be loaded with good info... im' just really discouraged of the price. Especially for those looking to take the class to get a feel for the new ...for that cost I can get the Cake... then research and figure it out...

I don't mean to be so negative.... its just disheartening, i want to support the information and ideas of other cakers and to learn from the best is awesome...but sometimes i feel the costs of some of these classes out there has gotten a little nuts... Am i crazy?



Would you be willing to travel, pay lodging, food and supply machines and computer for several people for less money? I don't think I would. Just sayin.

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