rfeagin Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 4:30pm
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How do I apply an edible image to fondant without the image bleeding? (I heard water will make it bleed through). What is the correct method to put on the icing sheet?

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lisamenz Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 4:52pm
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I have been using my edible image machine for over 10 years, it has been great. I do alot of wedding cakes, and I do what you call wallpapering the the wedding cake. I can take any design from scraping book designs and using my edible image machine , print and wrap the cake in the design the bride choses. I also will 2-D or 3-D the prints to make it look more professional and not cheesy looking. Now on to how to apply to fondant. Use some piping gel with a very light mixture of water with a good soft artist brush. Mix well. More piping gel, then water, Just a small amount of water. Put that on the fondant and then very carefully lay the edible image on the fondant, working it with your hand in a soft patting or soft circular motion, so not to rip the edible image. You have about a 1 minute to work with image before it becomes to soft. Take your time and work with it with patience, its easy. Hope this helps. Lisa icon_biggrin.gif

Kiddiekakes Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 4:55pm
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Hi Lisa, Welcome to CC!! I am interested in knowing more about wallpapering....I am just getting into edible images but would like to know how to this technique as well..Is there a certain site I go to get the prints?


Thanks

Laurel icon_smile.gif

lisamenz Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 5:14pm
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Just go to the craft stores, like Micheal's Crafts or Hobby Lobby, etc. Go to the scrap booking section and have fun. You can take that print and print onto your icing sheets and cut and measure according to the size you are wanting for your cake. I use a nice heavy ruler and a very sharp xacto knife to cut my edible image icing sheets. It gives me a clean , sharp cut. Sometimes scissors will give you a ragged edge. Make sure to store your icing sheets well. Air is the killer for them. Make sure your icing sheets are very flexible before you put them in your machine. Not brittle or it will break off in the machine and give a not so clean image. Always use fresh soft sheets of icing sheets. I have a big file of images from all types, sports, baby, flowers, scrolls greeting cards.etc. You can buy them anywhere and print them onto your icing sheets. Let me know if you have any more questions. thumbs_up.gif

Kiddiekakes Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 5:17pm
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What do you mean take any print..Do you buy paper and scan it? do you buy some sort of program and load it into your computer?

Sorry not sure what you mean icon_redface.gificon_redface.gif

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lisamenz Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 5:28pm
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Yes any print of paper type. That is just a print. You are not laying that on the cake. The paper print is being copied onto the icing sheet from the printer. Also of course its all edible ink. So all your doing is copying what ever print you are wanting to transfer onto the cake. YOu don't have to buy any program, yes they have them, but you can get better stuff by just going to the craft store and buying your own and getting more options and in my opinion more beautiful prints. Whatever I see , I pick up. Please, glad to help you. Send me the questions, love answering icon_biggrin.gif

Kiddiekakes Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 5:36pm
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Okay so let me get this straight....you scan the scrap booking paper..Then you use your edible image printer to copy the print you scanned....sounds wonderful!..What brand of paper and inks,image program are you using?

so many questions...Sorry icon_redface.gif


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lisamenz Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 5:47pm
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Please don't say your sorry, thats what this website is for. and I love it. Yes, to your questions. It's so great to have such a place to learn from all levels of decorators. If you need any image icing sheets, inks, etc. go to Photofrost.com. He also has alot of information on many things that will answer all your questions. Also they address any problems on tutorials on the website. I have known them for many years personally. In fact I introduced them to I.C.E.S . Now every year they go to the conventions here in the U.S. Let me know if you need anything else? icon_biggrin.gif

Kiddiekakes Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 5:55pm
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Thanks Lisa..I do appreciate your time....I can't wait to get started.

lmnettles Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 5:57pm

Lisa,

What do you mean by 2-D or 3-D the prints? I think this technique that is going on my ever growing list of things to try!

Thanks! icon_biggrin.gif

lisamenz Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 6:07pm

Let me try to explain this hopefully :0) I lay the print on the buttercream or fondant., then lets say the print image had flowers like roses, sunflowers, etc. I will make fondant or gumpaste flowers and lay them on top of the print (thur out) to make them look more dimesional. You are looking for depth of field or motion on the cake. I hate when a cake looks flat. You just have to be creative, after you look at your image you have decided to use on your cake. You may have a print that has a field of flowers with grass blowing in the wind, then take some icing with the grass icing tip in a bag and make buttercream grass blowing with motion on top of the the printed image on the cake, while still letting some of the print show thru. It doesn't have to be alot, just a little here and there to make it look interesting. I guess I am trying to say, look at your print and get creative my using other mediums of sugar to make it look interesting and artistic, does that make sense???? icon_biggrin.gif

sugarinspired Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 6:08pm

im debating over photofrost or kopy kake and i also want to try to projector for my designs any advice on this

lisamenz Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 6:12pm

Photofrost. I have seen and worked with the other brand. Not my choice, but then thats just my opion. I have used Photofrost for many years with great results. Plus their customer service is great and very knowledgable. Hope this helps icon_biggrin.gif

lmnettles Posted 27 Feb 2010 , 8:26pm

Lisa,

That does make sense. Thanks so much!

Mark_Mywords Posted 14 Dec 2010 , 2:55am

I've just ordered some photofrost paper with edible ink and catridges.

I've got a question or two I'm not sure about...

If a print on photofrost paper contained pale or white areas that are part of the wanted image, can you apply this onto a dark fondant? In other words, will the white still be white if put onto a deep coloured fondant?

If you had an irregular shaped design that you wanted to print onto photofrost paper. Is it easier to cut the shape out before removing the backing sheet?

Can you apply the piping gel to the frost sheet rather than the fondant?

Any help appreciated. thumbs_up.gif

Mark.

lisamenz Posted 14 Dec 2010 , 2:13pm

I like for my image to be cutout with a xacto knive, before I lay it on fondant or butter cream. It is easy to do , a little time consuming, but worth the look. Looks more professional.

Yes the color will show thru onto the white , from a dark fondant background.

Put your piping gel on the fondant, then lay the piece onto the cake. Its works better this way., because if you put the piping gel on the image first, then it gets wet and messy and harder to handle.

I hope I have answered all question for you. If not ask some more or personnel email me. I am always glad to help. Plus I have used the system for 9 years and used it in alot of different ways and mediums.

If you go to my website, look under wedding cakes, look at the tatoo cake, that is a PhotoFrost image , cut out and laid on fondant, icon_lol.gif Happy Decorating.

Mark_Mywords Posted 14 Dec 2010 , 11:48pm

Thanks for the info Lisa. There are some incredible cakes on your web site. Stunning work! I love the way you use Photofrost paper - you have some imagination! icon_smile.gif

I have one problem that I'm trying to get my head around...



I'm trying to find an easy way of placing the heart shaped logo onto the stadium seats as above. I used rice paper before, simply by sitting the paper on top of the fondant dry. I really want to find a way using Photofrost paper instead as the quality is far superior.

Any advice is helpful. icon_smile.gif

Mark_Mywords Posted 14 Dec 2010 , 11:55pm

Thanks for the info Lisa. There are some incredible cakes on your web site.
Stunning work! I love the way you use Photofrost paper - you have some imagination! icon_smile.gif

I have one problem that I'm trying to get my head around...


I'm trying to find an easy way of placing the heart shaped logo onto the stadium seats as above. I used rice paper before, simply by sitting the paper on top of the fondant dry. I really want to find a way using Photofrost paper instead as the quality is far superior.

Any advice is helpful. icon_smile.gif

Mark_Mywords Posted 14 Dec 2010 , 11:58pm

Sorry mods/admin... I can't edit the previous posts to remove the large pic as I can't scroll to the right. I've tried using both explorer and Firefox.

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lisamenz Posted 15 Dec 2010 , 4:20pm

This is a good question. I love using wafer paper in certain mediums also, but I don't like using it on cake that has to be cut and ate., its thicker and heavier as you know. I like using PhotoFrost printing with the wafer paper for butterflies, etc.

The PhotoFrost sheets are really nice to work with. of course he makes them right in his business . So they have hands on with them. They are not made else where and shipped in. Always fresh.

YOu definetyly have me on this question and how to do it the way you are thinking. Even I keep learning as I work with the icing images, and from other people.

I am sorry on not being able to help you on this one;0)

mdiaz Posted 15 Dec 2010 , 5:47pm

I would also like to know about edible images, because I'm thinking of purchasing one of those printers, but not sure which one will work better

lisamenz Posted 15 Dec 2010 , 7:38pm

YOu bet, go with PhotoFrost System, they make eveything in house and quailty controled right here in the USA... I have watched PhotoFrost do all icing sheets and edible inks right in house. I like this. Plus they have very great personnel services and Youtube and they have great information videos on alot of questions that you may have, but you can also call PhotoFrost personnelly, they are always glad to help you and help you make the decision.

I recommend that you go with Canon printers. They have the whole printer kit, icing sheets, cartidges, etc with this system available.

Again, I like it because its not made in china cartidges, sheets etc.. icon_biggrin.gif

I am more then glad to help, Lisa

mdiaz Posted 16 Dec 2010 , 2:57am

lisa, thanks so much for the info!!! icon_biggrin.gif

infinitsky Posted 16 Dec 2010 , 3:22am

laylascakes thank you for asking this question, I was looking for an answer to the same quesion. icon_smile.gif

Lisa thank you for all the information. I checked your web site, your cakes are really amazing and beautiful!!! icon_biggrin.gif

icingimages Posted 17 Dec 2010 , 4:22am

I know with our Premium Icing Sheets you can use a little bit of crisco on the back of the icing sheet. This allows you time to manipulate and move the icing sheet without bleeding.

Mark_Mywords Posted 29 Dec 2010 , 1:28am
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Originally Posted by lisamenz

This is a good question. I love using wafer paper in certain mediums also, but I don't like using it on cake that has to be cut and ate., its thicker and heavier as you know. I like using PhotoFrost printing with the wafer paper for butterflies, etc.

The PhotoFrost sheets are really nice to work with. of course he makes them right in his business . So they have hands on with them. They are not made else where and shipped in. Always fresh.

YOu definetyly have me on this question and how to do it the way you are thinking. Even I keep learning as I work with the icing images, and from other people.

I am sorry on not being able to help you on this one;0)




I found a workaround for my problem. I colour matched the maroon colour within the heart shape and simply stuck the heart onto the seats using a thin layer of water on the icing.

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lisamenz Posted 29 Dec 2010 , 2:32am

Looks awesome!!! I love learning from others also. icon_biggrin.gif

Bull Posted 3 Jan 2011 , 2:21am

I can not print my own edible image, but I have Wal-Mart make them for me, such as pictures of the grandchildren. About the scrapbook pages.
Do you mean, I can choose a sheet of printed scrapbook paper and have an edible image made from the sheet? I doubt that Wall-Mart will do that, on second thought, because they will say it's has copywright rules. But if they will, can I have an image made from the scrapbook page? Thanks,
Opal

Karen421 Posted 3 Jan 2011 , 2:51am

Mark Mywords that looks awesome!!! That is how I do it too, when I need something like that. icon_smile.gif

cakeandpartygirl Posted 3 Jan 2011 , 2:51pm
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Originally Posted by sugarinspired

im debating over photofrost or kopy kake and i also want to try to projector for my designs any advice on this




I don't know about photofrost but the kopykae ones are thumbsdown.gif

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