When People E-Mail You Comp Fonts...

Decorating By LuvLyrics Updated 13 Feb 2010 , 7:45pm by sweetiesbykim

LuvLyrics Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 3:12pm
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I have a customer that wants a cake for her sister, her theme is a martini party/shopping, she wants me do make martini glasses with blue martini in it, and also add something about shopping, yes I welcome Ideas... but she also send me the font she wants for the cake. The font came from the comp and I don't have the cutter for that font, acutally I am having problems finding font cutters...

What do you do in this case? Should I trace and cut out the letter on fondant? I am afraid this customer won't want to pay for all the work she wants done on her cake...uuurrggg icon_confused.gif

Anna

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jenmat Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 3:28pm
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use either piping gel or royal icing, flip the image in reverse, and then press it into the cake.
Kind of high maintenence for someone to need a specific font, but hey, to each his own. Good luck!

kellymarie Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 3:29pm
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Firstly giver here quote that is fair to you- and that way if she does not want to pay you haven't wasted your time! Secondly- tell her you can try your best to copy the font but no promises. I have used melted chocolate wafers and traced fonts before, but it's tedious because they break easily... and unless the cake is flat it will be difficult. Another way might be to print out the wording, and use a pin to prick the font through the paper onto the cake, and then try and trace it... but it culd be hard.

I would definitely tell her you cannot match it exactly though!! Do you have a sample of the fint you can attach? maybe someone would know of cutters or a better technique to help you out icon_smile.gif

sadsmile Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 3:42pm
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This is where the cake cricket is going to come in handy.But it is $$$

sadsmile Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 3:44pm
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I just saw you are in Miami... Right now it's illegal as
Florida Law does not allow us to sell cake from an unlicensed kitchen. icon_cry.gif

LuvLyrics Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 3:58pm
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Originally Posted by sadsmile

I just saw you are in Miami... Right now it's illegal as
Florida Law does not allow us to sell cake from an unlicensed kitchen. icon_cry.gif




Right now I am baking for friends and family, but I am thinking about starting to rent my churche's kitchen.

How did you get your kitchen license?

Thank you
Anna

LuvLyrics Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 3:59pm
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Originally Posted by sadsmile

This is where the cake cricket is going to come in handy.But it is $$$




What's the cake cricket?..is that the cutter bug?

LuvLyrics Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 4:02pm
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Originally Posted by jentreu

use either piping gel or royal icing, flip the image in reverse, and then press it into the cake.
Kind of high maintenence for someone to need a specific font, but hey, to each his own. Good luck!




LOL that's what I thought but didn't want to say myself LOL... Thanks for the advice and the "good luck" I'll need it.

sadsmile Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 4:04pm
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I don't have a licensed kitchen and I don't charge as I only bake for my family mostly my kids. You can't sell cake so I don't until they change the law, then I will look into doing everything under the sun to do it the right way and get into wedding cakes. thumbs_up.gif
Cricket has a cake model coming out that cuts gum paste and fondant. It's amazing!!!

sadsmile Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 4:08pm
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Here you have to see this!


http://www.cricut.com/cricutcake/

CaribbeanCakes Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 4:08pm
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LuvLyrics Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 4:11pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kellymarie

Firstly giver here quote that is fair to you- and that way if she does not want to pay you haven't wasted your time! Secondly- tell her you can try your best to copy the font but no promises. I have used melted chocolate wafers and traced fonts before, but it's tedious because they break easily... and unless the cake is flat it will be difficult. Another way might be to print out the wording, and use a pin to prick the font through the paper onto the cake, and then try and trace it... but it culd be hard.

I would definitely tell her you cannot match it exactly though!! Do you have a sample of the fint you can attach? maybe someone would know of cutters or a better technique to help you out icon_smile.gif




You are right I will give a quote first, b/c I am not sure she would pay for all the work she is asking.

I couldn't attach it, but in MS wrod is Engraver MT font.

LuvLyrics Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 4:22pm
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Originally Posted by sadsmile

Here you have to see this!


http://www.cricut.com/cricutcake/




Thank you...Amazing, I like to scrapbook when I have time, and I know some have used the cutter for scrapbooking for their cakes..I just haven't have time to read trough all the posts LOl..

thanks for the link.

And about the lic kitchen... Is there anyway to find out if the laws are changing or if there is anything being done about it...!! I wanted to cater from my house, but I didn't do it for the same reasons. that's why i am looking to rent the churche's kitchen

sadsmile Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 4:33pm
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The best thing you can do is write a letter to your local State Rep and ask. There is no sponsor for a new bill that would change the law right now. But the more people who ask and plead our case the better. That's how things started in the other states that have cottage laws.
Until things change I am not sticking my neck out for a possible $5000.00 dollar fine and jail time and or probation over any cake. A few dollars are just not worth it to me.
Sure the HD has bigger fish to fry but the illegal home bakers are starting to make waves and get the attention of bloggers everywhere and local bakeries and it won't be long till that next customer is a HD rep ready to shut you down and make your life hell.

LuvLyrics Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 5:42pm
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Originally Posted by sadsmile

The best thing you can do is write a letter to your local State Rep and ask. There is no sponsor for a new bill that would change the law right now. But the more people who ask and plead our case the better. That's how things started in the other states that have cottage laws.
Until things change I am not sticking my neck out for a possible $5000.00 dollar fine and jail time and or probation over any cake. A few dollars are just not worth it to me.
Sure the HD has bigger fish to fry but the illegal home bakers are starting to make waves and get the attention of bloggers everywhere and local bakeries and it won't be long till that next customer is a HD rep ready to shut you down and make your life hell.




Ouch ...you are right, I know that as long as I am working from a lic kitchen I should be ok, that's why I need to check with the church and even thought I am only making it for friends and family, the law is the law....I think they can also take away the right to EVER get your License if they found out....

Now I am a bit upset with my accountant b/c before I even considered taking orders from my friends I checked with him, and he had said that catering was a problem but not baking...I am only doing 1 or 2 cakes, and now I am checking to rent the church's kitchen if I make a business out of this...

Sorry I completely trail away from my main question LOL... But I am thankful for Sadsmile's advice and bringing this to my attention..thank you sadsmile.. Where in Fl are you? I am defenitly sending that letter.

sadsmile Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 7:13pm
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I am not sure if working from a Church kitchen is going to change anything as far as being illegal. Most not for profit organizations are exempt from needing to be licensed because they do not sell their food to the public, but rather it is consumed by their own people or organization. It is likely that the kitchen has not been licensed or inspected. If it is located within the wrong zoning you will not be able to get it inspected or licensed.
If is has been licensed and inspected there are still other things required to sell baked goods legally. Food prep and safety courses and certificates are required as are registration with the County and State in which you are selling. Business insurance is also required. Recipes are required to be submitted for testing to assure shelf stability with out the need of refrigeration. Certain recipes will not be permitted to be made or sold under your license. This is just a few things... there is a lot more. It's a whole giant ball of wax that is rather costly to actually start up.

Which is why the cost of custom cakes are so expensive.

I wish the laws could be changed to allow the home baker like in other states. But know that there are rules in place , like no animals with in the home and certain materials for the kitchen area for durability and ease of cleaning and sterilization.

The best thing is to talk to someone at your local HD about the Church kitchen. There might be something you can do or that might not be an option.

Deb_ Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 8:20pm
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Originally Posted by LuvLyrics



Now I am a bit upset with my accountant b/c before I even considered taking orders from my friends I checked with him, and he had said that catering was a problem but not baking...I am only doing 1 or 2 cakes, and now I am checking to rent the church's kitchen if I make a business out of this...




He had no business telling you that. I'm a licensed home baker.....the only person/dept I listen to is the Health Dept. I also never take any one person's "word" for anything, I always request everything in writing just to cover myself.

Good luck with your pursuit of finding a rental kitchen.

Bettycrockermommy Posted 12 Feb 2010 , 11:57pm
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Originally Posted by LuvLyrics

I couldn't attach it, but in MS wrod is Engraver MT font.




I looked at the font, and I would just print it out and trace the letters on waxed paper with royal icing. After they dry, you can just peel the letters off the paper and apply to the cake. I do it this way all the time.

tesso Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 12:42am
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Originally Posted by Bettycrockermommy

Quote:
Originally Posted by LuvLyrics

I couldn't attach it, but in MS wrod is Engraver MT font.



I looked at the font, and I would just print it out and trace the letters on waxed paper with royal icing. After they dry, you can just peel the letters off the paper and apply to the cake. I do it this way all the time.




this is how i do my writing too. it works like a charm. just remember to tape down the corners of the wax paper. icon_smile.gif I used royal icing as an outline and flo icing to fill in.

Mug-a-Bug Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 3:15am
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Wow, What a great idea! Thanks. What is flo icing??? icon_confused.gif

sweetiesbykim Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 3:38am
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I cheat. I put rice/wafer paper through my regular printer with the message they want. I then cut it out and glue it onto a hardened gumpaste surface with clear corn syrup. Use cookie cutters or simple shapes for the gp cutout, or a gift tag cutter works well with most cake themes. I tell the customer the ink is not edible, but it's not touching the cake or BC, and they are fine with it. I find these days, they just care how it looks. icon_smile.gif

LuvLyrics Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 3:54am
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sadsmile

I am not sure if working from a Church kitchen is going to change anything as far as being illegal. Most not for profit organizations are exempt from needing to be licensed because they do not sell their food to the public, but rather it is consumed by their own people or organization. It is likely that the kitchen has not been licensed or inspected. If it is located within the wrong zoning you will not be able to get it inspected or licensed.
If is has been licensed and inspected there are still other things required to sell baked goods legally. Food prep and safety courses and certificates are required as are registration with the County and State in which you are selling. Business insurance is also required. Recipes are required to be submitted for testing to assure shelf stability with out the need of refrigeration. Certain recipes will not be permitted to be made or sold under your license. This is just a few things... there is a lot more. It's a whole giant ball of wax that is rather costly to actually start up.

Which is why the cost of custom cakes are so expensive.

I wish the laws could be changed to allow the home baker like in other states. But know that there are rules in place , like no animals with in the home and certain materials for the kitchen area for durability and ease of cleaning and sterilization.

The best thing is to talk to someone at your local HD about the Church kitchen. There might be something you can do or that might not be an option.




Wooow how did you get all this info? I tried finding out myself and it was impossible, that's why i relied on my accountant. icon_sad.gif ...I am Sev Safe certified for the next 5 years, I got a couple of certifications with the state trough my culinary school. Now I need to find out all the stuff you mentioned about the church kitchen.....

I am in Miami, where are you? I really hope all this laws change, If they ask me, it will help the economy too...Thanks for all your advice icon_smile.gif

LuvLyrics Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 4:02am
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Tesso and Betty...thanks i will try it !!..and good reminder about the tape, my first time working with RI my paper flew away..lol

Deb...u are right, from now on everything on writing, i will be calling the HD monday.

Mug..flo icing, I believe it's thin out RI.

Kim, the ink doesn't bleed when you glue it?

tesso Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 7:00am
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sorry, been off computer..the kitchen was calling.. um..yes flo icing is royal icing thinned down. it is also what i used to make the stars for my nieces pink/black cake. and lettering on birthday fish cake. I also used it to make the boat. It DOES take a while to dry depending on how thick you make your piece. 24hrs worked the best for me. HTH

good luck

sweetiesbykim Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 7:45pm
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Lovelyrics -No, it doesn't bleed, but I haven't done any solid color pictures, just messages, which isn't that much ink. The corn syrup just needs to be a thin, tacky layer, not thick to make the paper wet. It's worked great, and hasn't been touchy to work with at all! icon_smile.gif

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