boring Posted 29 Jan 2010 , 7:19am
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I have made wings with gelatine before but thought I would try it with isomalt using the same method. The method I used was to make the shape in wire, melt the isomalt and drag the wire through the isomalt. Needless to say it didn't work. I would love any suggestions on how I could do this. Thank you in advance.

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Evoir Posted 29 Jan 2010 , 8:17am
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I have seen it done where you have two silpats - one as a base mat, and the other with butterfly cut-outs (yes, expensive way to use silpats - cut them into pieces!) then the liquid sugar/isomalt is poured into the wing shapes and allowed to set within the cut-out area. I hope this makes sense!

boring Posted 30 Jan 2010 , 6:23am
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Envoi

Sort of but wouldn't the cooling liquid spill out over the silpats?
Thanks for taking the time to reply to me.

Regards

Kerrie

Evoir Posted 30 Jan 2010 , 6:38am
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Well, the show I saw it on, they spooned in the liquid sugar into the wing shape. The end result was not crisp clean lines, but still definitely wings! They used swirled colours through the sugar too - just a few drops of colouring.

boring Posted 31 Jan 2010 , 5:55am
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Ok so they used a form/mould/cutter for the shape and place it on the silpat. I must have got it wrong I though you sais there were 2 silpats. Thanks again for your time.

Evoir Posted 31 Jan 2010 , 10:07am
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No...sorry, um - one silpat had a butterfly shape cut out of it, and it was placed on top of another silpat. Then they spooned liquid sugar onto the top, pushing it with the spoon, as it was cooling. Any bits that are over the edge of the top (cut out) silpat are lifted off when you lift the top silpat from the bottom one. There should be a butterfly shape left on the bottom silpat after you lift the cut-out off it.

I don't thinkk this is a good method really, unless you're doing them every day! I'll check out some more of my sugar art books and get back to you, k?

boring Posted 31 Jan 2010 , 11:52am
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Thanks again Evior

Evoir Posted 31 Jan 2010 , 11:05pm
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Okay - there are two other methods that I looked at to refresh my memory, but its using sugar:

1. Using a base sugar (ie water/sugar/glucose instead of your isomalt, made into pieces that can be then heated and moulded) you can soften the base sugar, stretch it until pearly white in colour (or a lighter shiny colour than the colour you've tinted the base sugar) and press into a wing mould, as you would gumpaste, let it harden slightly and then remove, place on non-stick paper to harden completely.

2. Free-form piping: prepare your base sugar mixture to cracking stage (using a sugar thermometer gives best results), then pour into a paper piping cone. Using a secured piece of non-stick paper on your work bench, snip corner of bag, and letting your hand rotate freely, pipe loops of the sugar mixture to form lacey wings (they will have holes in between the loops).

If you like a bubbly effect, you soak a non-stick pieve of paper in clear alcohol, and pour/pipe a wing shape onto the paper and allow to dry. The alcohol reacts with the sugar and forms bubbles inside the clear hard sugar wing.

I have used the second method and its a bit hairy trying to handle hot sugar (wear gloves for a start) without burning yourself, LOL...but the effect (I made large butterfly wings for a cake topper) was beautiful - big red glossy toffee butterfly wings!

HTH...(by the way the above methods are taught by a french chef who specialises in sugar art in Sydney - Herve Boutin).

boring Posted 1 Feb 2010 , 5:19am
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Hi Evoir

Many thanks for this. I didn't realise that there was someone teaching sugar in Sydney. Do you know where I might be able to get into these lessons? Can you please tell me the names of your books I would be very interested in getting a couple.

Many Thanks again

Regards

Kerrie
Sydney Australia

Evoir Posted 1 Feb 2010 , 10:17am

If you can get the book by Eward Notter, you will have all the information you'll ever need. Sadly the book is long out of print and you'll pay hundreds for it, IF you ever find a copy. The author is an internationally renowned sugar artist who now teaches at his pastry arts school in Florida...read all about him at: http://www.notterschool.com/continuing.html. Presumably he wants ppl to do his courses rather than learn everything out of his book.

Herve Boutin taught at Le Cordon Bleu Institute in Sydney about 10 yrs ago - and I'm sorry but I do not know if he still does. Perhaps you could look them up and they may redirect you if he does not? He's well known as the authority on blowing, pulling and handcrafting sugar. The book I have by him is a slim volume from the Cake Decorating Skills Series (Book 2) - Sugar Pouring, Pulling and Blowing (try eBay, it occasionally comes up). I have toyed around with various techniques, but would really love to do a course, too (hey - if you find out about any short courses, can you let me know and I may be able to come down to Sydney to do it with you?). I am *this close* to buying a bulb and tubing set ($170!) to start blowing sugar, but really don't have unlimited time to experiment with all the other work I have on!

I got interested in the art after doing croquembouches with spun sugar...there's so much more you can do.

Can you pm me if you find out anything more about courses? That would be excellent!!

- Eve

marisab Posted 3 Feb 2010 , 4:40am

Boring or Evimore, could you tell me where I? can purchase Isomalt in Australia please?

marisab Posted 3 Feb 2010 , 4:42am

Sorry, that should have read Evoir. icon_lol.gif

Evoir Posted 3 Feb 2010 , 9:09am

Just call me Eve icon_smile.gif

There is a molecular gastronomy company in Sydney that has an online store, and they sell it:

http://www.redspooncompany.com/

marisab Posted 3 Feb 2010 , 8:07pm

Thank you very much Eve!

bobwonderbuns Posted 3 Feb 2010 , 8:29pm

Okay I have a question -- can isomalt be airbrushed? Like if I make butterfly wings or something, can I airbrush them?

moydear77 Posted 4 Feb 2010 , 3:23pm

Yes, you can airbrush isomalt. I use peels by chicago mold school.

http://store.chicagomoldschool.com/category_s/8.htm

bobwonderbuns Posted 4 Feb 2010 , 3:59pm

Thanks Moy! I have two sets of those showpeels myself and I've only used them for chocolate so far. icon_biggrin.gif

moydear77 Posted 4 Feb 2010 , 8:18pm
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Originally Posted by bobwonderbuns

Thanks Moy! I have two sets of those showpeels myself and I've only used them for chocolate so far. icon_biggrin.gif




I try not to mix my peels with Chocolate and Sugar. Chocolate has cocoa butter and if that leeches onto the sugar that you mold, It can cause problems when assembling.

bobwonderbuns Posted 4 Feb 2010 , 9:19pm

Ah! Good to know!! Thanks for sharing that! icon_biggrin.gif

Evoir Posted 5 Feb 2010 , 11:03pm

Moy - thanks for the link there to the showpeels....yet another website bookmarked for the future when I can afford more toys!!

bobwonderbuns Posted 6 Feb 2010 , 5:58pm

Yes, those Showpeels are awesome! Go to YouTube and do a search for showpeels and they have several online demos showing how cool they are! icon_biggrin.gif

cblupe Posted 6 Feb 2010 , 6:40pm

Yes, you certainly can use your airbrush on sugar. If you look in my photos at the fruit arrangement I airbrushed most of the fruit. I went to Florida a few years ago and took a short course at Notter's School. It was awesome!!!

Evoir Posted 7 Feb 2010 , 9:54am

OMG - you lucky duck, you!

I would LOVE to do a course at Notter's...I'll bet you learned so much there! I would probably settle for owning his book, though...that would be awesome.

LateBloomer Posted 13 Feb 2010 , 7:52pm

Have you seen the moulds at http://chicagomolds.com?

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