Help- My White Separates From Other Colors When Painting!

Decorating By cakesrock Updated 29 Nov 2009 , 1:29am by Texas_Rose

cakesrock Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 1:33pm
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Hi all,

Whenever I use white (superwhite or Wilton whitener) to paint on fondant and/or gumpaste, it tends to separate from the other color(s) I mix with it. I mix it well and don't used vodka or lemon juice (as recommended). Does this happen to anyone else? How do you avoid? I have to make grey, so there is really no way around mixing white. I find it worst when I mix a few colors (e.g. for skin tone). Am I doing something technically wrong?

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-K8memphis Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 1:44pm
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I don't know but I just avoid using white myself--that's not a super answer but white food coloring has been available for only a small fraction of my caking career so it's not difficult for me to avoid using it.

I mean to get grey you just thin the black--you don't have to use white to get grey. Same for any color, add water, add everclear use a lighter touch. There may be a white color expert somewhere but I think that stuff is freaking weird.

And in my personal case I have a dear friend who is crushingly allergic to titanium dioxide, aka white food color so I think I'm doing the world a favor by avoiding it.

But perhaps re-think the way you mix colors for painting. It's the white color strange stuff--doesn't act like the other colors. But again I'm no expert on white food color.

Faffy Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 4:19pm
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Hi, I did know you could paint fondant and gumpaste, could someone send me a link to learn how? Thanks icon_biggrin.gif

cakesrock Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 5:15pm
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Just mix a little color paste with vodka or lemon or vanilla extract and happy painting! icon_smile.gif
PS: you will have to do a couple of coats...Sorry, don't have a link, but go under search and see if you can find a tutorial. Maybe try youtube too.

Faffy Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 5:27pm
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So can you just add the color to the gumpaste/fondant creations before you make them or is it easier just to paint them once done?

-K8memphis Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 6:05pm
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Originally Posted by Faffy

So can you just add the color to the gumpaste/fondant creations before you make them or is it easier just to paint them once done?




Just however you wanna do it--there'd be different times you'd be wanting either method--just whatever you like. And gum paste/fondant sometimes might not take the color the way you want either so you have the option to paint over.

Like I did 'a painting' on a cake so I used the food color as paint.

However I put molded hands & face on the cake with skin tone colored fondant --and I then painted the shadow on the face then used edible ink markers for eyes and stuff. So you can use a bunch of mediums all depending.

http://acmecakes.com/images/IMGP0216.JPG

Doug Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 6:14pm
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-K8memphis Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 6:18pm
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Yes and I add everclear to my airbrush colors for painting on fondant.

Faffy Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 6:20pm
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K8 That is so awesome!! Love it icon_biggrin.gif

kakeladi Posted 28 Nov 2009 , 9:38pm
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........don't used vodka or lemon juice (as recommended).......

Just want to point out that lemon *juice* is NOT what is to be used. Anything painted w/color thinned w/lemon *juice* will NOT dry - will remain sticky/tacky forever.
You must have alcohol in it. Juice doe not but extract does.

Texas_Rose Posted 29 Nov 2009 , 1:29am
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When I was trying to paint with white, I figured out that if you mix it with vodka, it separates out into little white chunks. I don't have any trouble mixing straight white with gel color...it doesn't separate, either after mixing the color or on the cake. It does dry fast. I had to paint an entire cake in shades of grey and white and I did it with wilton's black gel and white color.

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