My First Fondant Over Ganache Cake ... Please Help

Decorating By makenice99 Updated 29 May 2014 , 7:29pm by MBalaska

makenice99 Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 2:21pm
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This will be the first time I try this so I need some advise on the best method. I am trying my first man dress shirt. I baked a chocolate cake which I will be filling with whipped chocolate ganache filling. I am going to let it set for 30 minutes and the cover the cake in poured chocolate ganache.
Now here is my problem I want to then cover the cake in fondant and add the collar & tie.
1. Is it better to frost the cake with poured chocolate ganache or whipped?
2.How long do I wait after frosting before I can cover the cake in fondant?
3.If I make the cake on Thursday and add the tie and collar and place it in the refrigerator Until Saturday morning (9AM party is for 1pm) will it be ok and the colors not run? Cake is mint Green , tie is baby pink . (Jack & Jill baby shower making his cake to match her colors)

Sorry for all of the questions but your help is greatly appreciated.

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chefbarbie0513 Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 2:33pm
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I havent done this ...

pattycakesnj Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 2:40pm
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I would not use poured ganache under fondant, use regular instead, (2 parts chocolate to 1 part heavy cream) then it must firm up overnight before covering with fondant. I do not put fondant cakes in refrigerator, ganache can stay out for days (unless it is extremely hot) HTH

SandiOh Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 2:55pm
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I have used poured ganache under fondant. you'll have to do more than one pour, then use a hot spatula to even things up....It worked fine.

But, I think it's probably easier to do it the other way (letting ganache set up to the consistency of peanut butter and frosting it.)

Bluehue Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 3:04pm
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I suggest you do as Pattycakes wrote...
Ganache the cake - then wait for the next day before covering with fondant - that way you have let the cake settle and any bulgers you might get can be fixed before covering.

Pleaseeeeeeeeee do not put the fondant covered cake in the fridge - there is no need to.


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meri1028 Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 3:27pm
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You'll want to do what pattycakesnj said. After you let it set over night, you can use a "hot knife" method to smooth out any bumps. You place a long knife or scraper in boiling water, dry it off, and then run it over & around the cake to level & smooth the ganace. This also helps getting those sharp corners. I highly recommend the Planet Cake book! It tells you how to do this step by step.

makenice99 Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 3:30pm
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Ganache can stay outside???????? It has heavy cream (diary)

Thank you all so much for the help. I will let the ganache set up and spread it on.

However, I am very confused about the let it stay outside part. Will it be safe. We will not be using it till Saturday. It is Wedneday and I can leave the cake with ganache frosting and filling outside for three full days. Won't it spoil? icon_redface.gif

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Bluehue Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 3:37pm
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Contrary to what a lot of others say - you can allow it to sit until saturday - as long as it is not hot weather.

Because the cream has been bought to boiling point the structure of the cream has been changed.
There is a misconception that this isn't so - but it is safe to do so.

As mentioned above - ganache the cake - allow to sit and set for a day/over night and then cover with fondant and decorate - you will be fine

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pattycakesnj Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 3:38pm
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no it won't spoil. Check out sugarshacks topsy turvy video, that is where I learned all about covering in ganache under fondant. Works great

makenice99 Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 7:06pm
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Oh my God thank you all so very much for the help. You saved my cake. I never knew that about ganached. Amazing. Thanks.

meri1028
I just ordered the book at amazon. I can't wait to get it. I can't wait to try the purse on the cover. Thank you so much.

pattycakesnj
I brought the buttercream DVD loved it but I know I can't make a topsy turvy so I was thinking about just the fondant DVD next. Is the ganache only in that DVD?

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But I love it !!!

pattycakesnj Posted 7 Oct 2009 , 9:35pm
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Quote:
Originally Posted by makenice99

Oh my God thank you all so very much for the help. You saved my cake. I never knew that about ganached. Amazing. Thanks.

meri1028
I just ordered the book at amazon. I can't wait to get it. I can't wait to try the purse on the cover. Thank you so much.

pattycakesnj
I brought the buttercream DVD loved it but I know I can't make a topsy turvy so I was thinking about just the fondant DVD next. Is the ganache only in that DVD?

Oh what an expensive hobby this is icon_rolleyes.gif
But I love it !!!


I only remember the ganache/fondant technique in the topsy turvy video but you really should get it. Topsy turvys are not that hard at all and the dvd explains it so well.

meri1028 Posted 9 Oct 2009 , 5:59pm
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makenice99, you're welcome. I'm sure you'll like the book! I haven't tried the purse cake yet, but it's on my list. I know too many toys to buy!

Peridot Posted 9 Oct 2009 , 6:12pm
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The topsy turvy is the only one of Sharon's DVD's that has the ganache part. The DVD has a lot of wonderful things on it besides doing a topsy turvy. It is a worthwhile investment. I probably won't ever make a TT but I learned a lot of other things from watching this DVD.

candacethecook Posted 29 May 2014 , 4:38pm
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what is the website for the sugarshack topsy turvy video.  Thank you

 

candace

MBalaska Posted 29 May 2014 , 7:28pm
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http://cakecentral.com/u/137/sugarshack

 

that's her profile here on cc  her links are on her pages.

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