Rosebuds & writing...???? (mod. edited)

Decorating By ally38562 Updated 15 Jul 2009 , 4:01am by LaBellaFlor

solascakes Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:06pm
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My writing is rubbish so I always proudly use fondant letters,whatever the cake.

JGMB Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:06pm
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Ditto. My daughter is a Special Education teacher, and she's not above telling people (tactfully, of course) in public to quit using that word when she hears it. I was even brave enough to ask a group of teenage boys in line behind me at a store to stop saying it. Surprisingly, they apologized!

solascakes Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:11pm
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Unlimited are those your nails,how sexy are those,are they real,please let me kill you for them.

Unlimited Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:26pm
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Unlimited are those your nails,how sexy are those,are they real,please let me kill you for them.




Kill me now! Yes, those are my real fingernails, but everyone thinks they're pretty gross! For those that agree they're nasty, you'll be pleased to know that I just cut them all off! I have to cut 'em off 2Xs a year, once in the summer (because they bend backwards when I dive off my diving board in the pool), and once in the winter (because some of them just get too long and grow twisted then it drives me crazy!) If you like long nails, you just need to learn to use your fingertips for everything instead of using your nails for tools. (i.e. screwdrivers!)

Doug Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:33pm
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Enough already.

The horse is flogged and dead.

We heard the first, the second, the third, .......and yet one more time.

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the word used was RETARDED -- as in slow on the up take, held back, having difficulties in keeping up with the rest of the crowd, having to have extra time to get it -- NOT the epithet like "n" and "gay" before it that many have complained about!

and who of us, if we are truthful, is not retarded?

one only has to look at my math and spelling abilities -- way, way behind the curve! sooooooo slow to get it! and my handwriting -- well did your 7th grade teacher call your parents and tell them to get you a typewriter so she could finally read your assignments???? Mine did! (let's see 40+ years and still haven't mastered typing either! -- pretty retarded!

and what's your retardation? English? grammar? chemistry? history? PE? (drat another one for me! -- my running is beyond retarded as in not moving at all!) spatial relationships? planning? sequencing? self-esteem? fear of (fill in the blank - I'll start: heights!!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Yes, I've been called retarded even tho' I'm not -- until you look at my math and spelling! (my ability to run doesn't count -- not even moving there!)
but math and spelling? ooooo boy am I. And if one says that to me, my rejoinder is simply: "YES, I am -- that's why they invented Word/Excel and I can use those right well."

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now as to that epithet "r....." the one complained about but not used.

It is instructive to see how the "n" word and the word "gay" have been totally turned on their heads from epithets to empowering by those against whom they were originally aimed.

Some day the "r" word could be just as empowering but only if instead of stomping feet and yelling how dare you use it -- it is instead co-opted & embraced as used as point of pride when they stand their ground, don't wimper or pout but get right back in the person's face as say: "Yes, I AM retarded but just remember -- I may be slow -- but so was the tortoise and it was he -- the slow and steady one -- who won the race!"

One of the most loving people I ever knew was DS.

And one of my best, most steady students had a tested IQ of barely 80 - but she slowly, steadily did all that was asked of her and showed up those who were faster and more capable.

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Rather than focusing on the one dead leaf and miss the beauty of tree and forest -- an all too common trait today where a person makes a minor slip and is promptly beaten down for it as if they were a mass murder --

Let's recognize we all have dead leaves -- all of us retarded, slow. disabled - in some way.

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Enough.

Time to stay on topic or be silent.

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and speaking of the topic: see above or any cake I've made for just how bad my handwriting is! Unfortunately due to my own lack of patience, I doubt I'd have the time for tappits, or plaques or no $ for edible images. So, suffer and laugh on world at my scrawl!

__Jamie__ Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:42pm
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Damn Doug...nice! Oops, is damn a bad word too? icon_biggrin.gif

Doug Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:47pm
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Damn Doug...nice! Oops, is damn a bad word too? icon_biggrin.gif




it's what the fish said when it hit the concrete wall!

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Ruth0209 Posted 14 Jul 2009 , 11:50pm
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I'm sorry, I can't quite let this one go yet. Forgive me but I have to say just a bit more on the subject of defending the use of terms as innocent or harmless after people have told you how very hurtful they are.

I believe that the OP did not mean to hurt anyone by her comment. However, the fact is that she obviously did offend quite a few people. That's the only important aspect of this conversation.

When this happens, a person with maturity and grace simply says, "I'm sorry. I didn't realize that my words hurt you." Continuing to try to defend what you said and why it shouldn't be offensive doesn't show any regard for the people you offend.

Regardless of what you may personally think about the use of this term, once you know that it's offensive to so many to say it in a public forum, the ONLY appropriate thing to do is to stop doing it. And that is not political correctness, it's simply what kind and decent people do.

If we never spoke up to educate people, it would still be considered socially acceptable to use all kinds of racial slurs that we all now understand are simply not acceptable in a decent, respectful society. This is no different. Please just listen and try to learn something today.

shturpin Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 12:19am
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Oh good lord ! The women asked for forgiveness. LET IT GO ! Doug is right, Retarded is used in everyday language, even in the bakery !! It does mean slow. Maybe those of you are being too sensitive about the subject because you have a loved one with a health problem. If you didn't like the OPS use of the word, move on to a different subject. Why do you feel like you have to be the language police. Just try to get along ! Your supposed to be adults. Answer the womens question if you can, otherwise, if you don't have any suggestions, move on to a different forum. I personally pmd her with one of my suggestions. I didn't chastize her, i'm sure she's already feeling that.

Jen80 Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 12:20am
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Poor ally's probably never going to ask for help again, and isn't that what we're all here for.....to help and be helped?
I love my tappits. I can't wait to get more. You should think yourself lucky. I can't really do anything with buttercream except put it under my fondant. Can't pipe it, can't smooth it, can't make pretty roses etc etc.

Doug Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 12:45am
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ok...questions on tappits since so many think they're the "bees knees"

1) how thin must fondant be?

2) how do you cut them to shape?

3) how long do they have to dry?

and any other info (like a video???) would be helpful.

OhMyGanache Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 12:59am
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Doug, I believe Aine2 had a tutorial on YouTube about them.

goof9j Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 1:05am
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I am so with you guys. I HATE icon_mad.gif really hate the word retarded. I also have a special needs grandson. I really wish people would be more considerate. In fact he is the pic in my Avatar...... So please be careful what you say and who you say it in front of, that person may be or have special needs.

Peridot Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 1:14am
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I think we have now worn out the "forbidden word" subject and we need to stop posting to this one. There was no intentional offense made in what was originally posted and it is time to leave it alone. Six pages of this is enough - we get the point.

Ruth0209 Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 1:24am
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Yep, everyone but the OP it seems. She could have stopped it cold by simply saying, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend." Dont' see that post anywhere...

shturpin Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 1:53am
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I just received a scathing letter from Ruth0209
because i dared to defend someones right of speech. I contend that the OP said what she said, now get over it. Answer her question or be quiet. The OP didn't intentionally mean to offend, she never called anyone of you personally and insulted your child. She referred to herself. This thread is getting out of hand, and it's just the reason so many people are leaving cake central. She didn't ask you to police her words, she asked for advice. Ruth0209, don't bother PMing me anymore of your vile words. I will block you from now on. Original poster....they want your blood, give it up. They aren't going to drop this until you "aplogize" for something you didn't mean to do. For lords sake, do it, so they'll move on and shut up. I won't be watching this thread anymore, and i hope they block it. It's pretty sad when someone can't get advice because they say a word someone doesn't like.

wendy1273 Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:12am
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This is the reason I don't post anymore, English is my second language and sometimes I use the wrong term for something meaning no harm and people like this would crucified me.

I'm done posting.

Too much negativity and drama. I loved CC but this is ridiculous.

God bless you all

hellie0h Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:27am
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Seems to me the OP got plenty of advice on her question....also seems to me that there are quite a few that want to shut up the folks that have a bit of a gripe, and yes, they have the right to free speech as well.

You know what really gets to those of us who have a loved one that is mentally challenged....is when ignorant people use the term to describe themselves or someone else as being retarded because they can't master a task or they are making fun of another being silly or weird.

Now, a sentence like...you can retard the growth of mold by blah blah...or this is a school for the mentally retarded...perfectly acceptable as the word is being used in the proper context. I believe the other posters were just bringing to attention that this word can hurt when used loosely.

__Jamie__ Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:30am
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Originally Posted by Ruth0209

Yep, everyone but the OP it seems. She could have stopped it cold by simply saying, "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to offend." Dont' see that post anywhere...




That's hilarious. Because anyone that's been around here long enough knows 5 million people still would have chimed in with their pro and con opinions. Nothing would have stopped this thread other than a lock by a moderator. Fact.

woodruffbn Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:45am
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icon_eek.gif This post just needs to be locked... Period. We all have different opinions. Can't we (on both sides) let this go? Things have gotten WAAAAY too heated for a stupid internet conversation.

CarrieBear Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:48am
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if the rest of the posts on this thread dont stick to the original question versus a heated debate about the title of this thread I guarentee you a moderator is probably going to lock this thread dead in its tracks, its becoming negative and they frown upon it. and i am speaking from experience. just as a friendly reminder. I have never seen threads like this end nicely thumbsdown.gif

jaybug Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:52am
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Well it is time to lock it up and throw away the key!

__Jamie__ Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:54am
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Reminds me of the Marauders' Map in Harry Potter....Mischief Managed! icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif


So who else is so excited they could PEE themselves??! It's tonight!! Well...it's Saturday date night for me! Woooo hooooo!

Ruth0209 Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:55am
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I just PM'd a moderator and asked that it be locked. Sorry folks if I ruined this thread for you. This is a subject very close to my heart.

I hope the OP at least got a few good answers to her original question.

FromScratch Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 2:58am
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The word "retard" meaning a slowing down, diminution, or hindrance has been a word for a long time... long before it was used to describe a diminished mental capacity... and long before it was used as a slang term.

I'm a proud tappit user too and I'd like to get a Cricut so I can make lettering as small or as big as I want it, but tappits have a nice look to them... all punched out and formed edges... something I don't think letters cut by the Cricut will have.

JaimeAnn Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 3:04am
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WOW.... Can't we all get along? Please.. There is no need for an all out war!

Let's Realize that it is someones prerogative to be upset about a word they find offensive , AND lets also realize that someone may say something not knowing it would be offensive to someone else.

Free speech is fine and Dandy but lets not try to hurt each others feelings.

Not everyone has to like everyone , Heck I don't like most people.. Hahah

I love all my friends here on CC . There is enough negativity in the world without inflicting it on our fellow artisans...

Lets all take a deep breath have a cup of tea and relax..



*Doug: I believe Edna (Tonedna1) has a tutorial on the Tappits on youtube. She is pretty detailed in her instruction.



"Sometimes one creates a dynamic impression by saying something,
and sometimes one creates as significant an impression by remaining silent." The Dalai Lama
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__Jamie__ Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 3:05am
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I'm actually surprised this went as long as it did. Especially when PM's were being made public...sort of. Someone isn't on the ball tonight, or they are letting the CC community as a whole work it out ourselves. I'd like to think the latter. icon_smile.gif

LaBellaFlor Posted 15 Jul 2009 , 4:01am
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I'm shocked. Lets talk about the word ni@@a & fa@@ot. There is a reason poeple don't use these words anymore, cause it has been repeatedly stressed that they are offensive. The way the "N" word was used, was to demean people, not used for the definition. When you hear that word, you hear a racist statement. Same thing with retard. You hear soemone say that word, you don't think f "Oh, they have a slow ability in this area", you think of the mentally handicapped, and it is just offensive. And heres the other thing, a black person, a homosexual, they can defend themselves, mentally retarded people can not easily defend themselves, but it still hurts them. Its up to the rest of us to stress the ignorance of that word so it will also be used as the same negative connotation as the "N" worg or the "F" word.

The little baby in my avatar is a BEAUTIFUL downs baby and as far as ALL my BLACK children go, no, they don't see the "N" word as now a word of empowerment, but as the ignorant word its always been used as Doug.

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