Kimzie Posted 4 May 2009 , 2:46pm
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Hi, I'm making a cake for this upcoming weekend. It's a birthday/best wishes and anniversary cake all in one. I was looking to make a "gift box" but looking at ideas here on cakecentral...I've come across really beautiful ones, especially the gift box cake. My question is...how to I get the "lid" to stay open? and how to make it look like "tissue paper" inside the box? Can someone pleassssse help me in that area? Possibly a step by step? So appreciated! thanks
Kimzie

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rsaun Posted 4 May 2009 , 2:54pm
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Kimzie,

I can't answer this for you, but I was just going to post the same question... icon_smile.gif I can't wait for an answer!

MrsMabe Posted 4 May 2009 , 3:01pm
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I know there's a tutorial on this site in a sticky for the cake itself. I dunno about tissue paper though. I can do cloth, but I've never tried tissue paper.

MrsMabe Posted 4 May 2009 , 3:02pm
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Woops, never mind. Somehow I thought you said flower basket. icon_confused.gif Can you tell I had a long day today?

mcook1670 Posted 4 May 2009 , 3:02pm
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to keep the box lid open insert a dowel into the cake and leave about 1/2 to 1'' above the cake, put the other cake "lid" on top, so that it sits at and angle. To make the tissue paper, just roll gumpaste super thin and brush it with peatl dust to make it shinny. hope this helps

sadsmile Posted 4 May 2009 , 3:15pm
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Make your lid in advance and allow it to dry and harden and you will prop it open with dowlels that are taller then the cake by the amount you want the lid to be lifted up. Tissue paper can be made out of gumpast rolled out extra thin and then gently lifted and crumpled and folded and then set it aside to dry. It is best to make and put it directly where you need it to go so it get's the right shape of draping over the edges and gets tucked in all the right spots.
I am making my first hat box cake this weekend also! It's for Mother's Day for my Grandma, Mom and three Aunts and I guess myself since I am a Mom too..LOL

cjshoemake Posted 4 May 2009 , 3:31pm
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what is the best way to make the box lid? Is is solid? hollow? Stryofoam? cake? gumpaste?

fabulosity Posted 4 May 2009 , 3:38pm
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I have been wondering this myself. So, would you just use the tissue paper gumpaste to cover up the dowels? Gumpaste is SO finicky...would 50/50 gumpaste fondant work?

sadsmile Posted 4 May 2009 , 4:06pm
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You can make a lid by molding gumpast over the bottom of a pan or making a circle letting it harden and then make a ribbon and attach it around the edge standing up. Using styro is a great option. I love gumpaste! You can turn your fondant into gumpaste by adding Tylose powder but Ii think making gumpaste works out better. Grease your hands up and work it. It does dry fast so no fans turned on and keep the lump you are not using greesed and wrapped up in plastic wrap and even then in a ziplock with all the air sqeezed out. The warmer you get it with your hands the more pliable it becomes.

Anntee Posted 4 May 2009 , 5:09pm

Here's a link to a DIY project that I had stored in my files. Hope it helps - and be sure to post a picture!

http://www.diynetwork.com/diy/cr_natural_homemade/article/0,2025,DIY_13767_5225051,00.html
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Anntee Posted 4 May 2009 , 5:15pm

Oh and here's another from cc:

http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-215781.html

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fabulosity Posted 4 May 2009 , 5:54pm
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I love gumpaste! You can turn your fondant into gumpaste by adding Tylose powder but I think making gumpaste works out better. Grease your hands up and work it. It does dry fast so no fans turned on and keep the lump you are not using greesed and wrapped up in plastic wrap and even then in a ziplock with all the air sqeezed out. The warmer you get it with your hands the more pliable it becomes.




I think that is where gumpaste and I fight. It dries so fast that I end up cracking something and then I get a bit irritated. We have a love hate relationship. I think that the more I use it, the more we will get along. thumbs_up.gif

JawdroppingCakes Posted 4 May 2009 , 5:59pm

I made a gift box last week and I used a cake on a cake board for the lid. I let it chill in the fridge then frosted it and then chilled again and then covered with fondant and then just put it on the dowels in the cake that were taller on one side than on the other side. Hope this help[s.

tonedna Posted 4 May 2009 , 6:04pm

When I do mine I like to put the dowels and a wedge too for support that way I can attach the lid to the wedge(wich I cover in fodant), with some royal icing so it won't move.

As for the gumpaste, wich brand are you using?.. I know wilton will dry a bit faster than others and yes adding some fondant will help.

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fabulosity Posted 4 May 2009 , 6:13pm
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As for the gumpaste, wich brand are you using?.. I know wilton will dry a bit faster than others and yes adding some fondant will help.

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I have been using the Wilton Fondant...maybe I will add some fondant to it to try. Where I live Wilton is the only option. Anything else I would have to order online and I would have no idea what brand to order online. Is there a brand that you prefer?

StaceyCakes75 Posted 4 May 2009 , 6:29pm

I made a gift box not long ago and what I did was I baked 2 8" squares cut them both in half that give you 4 peices. I stacked 3 layers for the bottom and one for the lid. The top lid was on cake board then covered in fondant. The tissue papper was rolled MMF. Just as the others have mentioned take wooden dowls (4 or 5) and make them sick out higher than the tissue paper. If you are really worried about the lid falling off as I was becuse I had to transport it pretty far. I put very small drop of hot glue on the dowls and placed the lid ontop. it stuck just fine. Just make sure the glue doens't get on anypart of the cake or fondant.
Hope that helps

StaceyCakes75 Posted 4 May 2009 , 6:35pm
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have been using the Wilton Fondant...maybe I will add some fondant to it to try. Where I live Wilton is the only option. Anything else I would have to order online and I would have no idea what brand to order online. Is there a brand that you prefer?




Have you ever tried to make your own fondant? The Wilton fondant tastes so gross. It's worth a try to make it and tasts so much better...not to mention so much cheaper!!

tonedna Posted 4 May 2009 , 7:37pm

I make my own using tylose.. But if I buy one is usually the Wilton one. Is just a matter of getting use to the consistency and if it's too hard or brittle adding a bit of fondant. Works like a charm for me. icon_smile.gif
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fabulosity Posted 4 May 2009 , 7:47pm

I do make my own MMF if I am going to be covering a cake. I only use the Wilton stuff for things that I want to be drier, like decorations that are going to be cut through and normally taken off, nothing that will be eaten. The MMF seems to never dry, so making decorations with it has not paid off for me in the past.

cjshoemake Posted 4 May 2009 , 10:37pm

tonedna: care to share you fondant and gumpaste recipes?

tonedna Posted 5 May 2009 , 1:12am

For fondant I just buy Satin Ice. And the gumpaste recipe is on my website on the recipe link
www.designmeacake.com
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Creative_chika Posted 5 May 2009 , 4:09am

thanks for sharing icon_smile.gif

MrsMabe Posted 5 May 2009 , 11:45am

I don't know if you've got enough info already, but here's someone who made one a few years back. You might try PMing her?

http://www.cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=21215

lkoenig07 Posted 5 May 2009 , 11:55am

I actually just did one of those a few weeks ago. I made the lid out of styrofoam. I was glad I didn't too cake... I thought it'd be too heavy. I just rolled out white fondant into a rectangle (pretty thin) & pinched it in certain spots. You can check out my picture

cjshoemake Posted 6 May 2009 , 12:49am

TONEDNA-The MMF recipe on your website...do you use this to cover your cakes with?

tonedna Posted 6 May 2009 , 5:49am

No..Most of my cakes are done in buttercream. If I do fondant I use satin Ice. We have too many cakes to make the fondant on top of that!
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sadsmile Posted 8 May 2009 , 2:35pm

Just wondering how it is going for you... with your box & lid. My lid gave me fits putting it together and now it is stuck on what it dried on ARG! I am not even sure if it is hard enough to turn right side up and decorate yet. Well i better get moving on the list of endless tasks for all the details that are driving me bonkers. XOXO

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