Moofiebonbon Posted 24 Mar 2009 , 3:16pm
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I posted this a couple of days ago on the "How To" forum and did not get any help, so I thought I would post here.
I am wondering if anyone has used Silicone Plastique to make a mold for the sugar bottles. I have made one with the paint on latex and I was not too thrilled with the results. It worked, just seemed to be a pain in the butt getting the mold off from the sugar bottle, with a couple breaking. I want to order the Silicone Plastique, and I am wondering if someone who has done it can help answer some questions. 1) How much (pounds) would I need to make 2 halves to create a whole bottle? 2) Is it possible to create 2 halves to make a whole? Or would I mold the entire bottle then cut it into halves to remove glass bottle from mold, and when making two halves, will rubber bands hold together the mold solid enough to pour a bottle without leaking sugar? 3) Does the sugar bottle pop out of the plastique with ease, or will there be a trick to it?
Sorry for all of the questions, I have done many searches without luck and hope someone is able to help me. Like I said I have made the latex mold and although it worked, I cut my hands on the sharp sugar and put a serious beating on my fingers pulling the mold off so I am seeking an easier way!
Thanks so much!

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ThisNameInUse Posted 24 Mar 2009 , 11:33pm
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I bought the mold builder today and clay today to make some bottles.

Anyone have step by step pics, or even better, a video! LOL icon_confused.gif

Rosie2 Posted 24 Mar 2009 , 11:46pm
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Hello to both of you...I don't think there's a step by step tutorial yet, but there is a thread that explains how to make them. I've been wanting to make the bottles but I'm a 'chicken'...I get so frustrated when things don't come out perfect and I think this is a 'trial and error' process icon_smile.gif
Here's the thread that has a lot of info in it...you may find the answers to your questions there.
http://forum.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopic-147691-0.html
Good luck and make sure to bring your bottles after you do them icon_smile.gif

SHogg Posted 24 Mar 2009 , 11:58pm
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I know that www.decoratethecake.com sells sugar bottle molds for beer bottles. I don't know if it's easier though.

Brooke420 Posted 24 Mar 2009 , 11:58pm
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I used the mold builder last fall to make a mold for some sugar bottles. It worked really well. My family couldn't believe that they were made from sugar. Silicone plastique was my first choice, but I didn't have any luck with it. I wasn't fast enough and it dried to quickly. The tutorials and information on this sight are wonderful, and how I learned how to do the bottles. Thank you to everyone who posted information on this topic.

Brooke

sweetcravings Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 12:26am
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Not sure if the stuff i bought at Michael's is the same stuff you are talking about but i bought a big tub of this silcone mix last year. I was planning to make a plaster mold of my son's hand. I thought for sure it would be a pretty easy project, but it was more frustrating than anything. It was pretty easy to mix up, but man did that stuff set up fast. First time around i was thinking i would get a loaf pan and fill it with silicone and my son would kinda lay his hand in...nope didn't work..realized as i was pouring it in that i didn't mix enough of the silcone to cover his hand but by that point it was too late to mix more because it starts to set up soooo quickly. So then, we decided, lets get a cup, fill it with the silcone and he could place his hand in it. Well, that worked somewhat, but it was a crazy rush to get his hand in position before it set. Once set, we tried to carefully pull out his hand. At first i thought, the mold took, but it's was really hard to get a good look inside the mold. So we proceeded to fill the mold with the plaster, once dry it kinda pulled away from the mold, but the only way to get it out fully was to tear it out, thus ruining the mold. After it was all said and done the plaster mold it created was alright but i definitely don't think it was worth the cost and headache. That stuff was really expensive for a one time use.
So if that is the same stuff you are planning to use, i would say try and go online and see if you can find a mold already made. It will save you headache, and will likely be more durable than the mold this mix made. If this isn't the same stuff you are talking about pls except my apologies. I just figured i would share my experience with the silcone mold mixes.

Suz

ThisNameInUse Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 2:53am
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Well...the first coat of mold builder is on the bottle. It's already clear (almost dry) so maybe I'll be able to put another coat on before I go to bed. I think I already messed up a little with my brush strokes. As I was brushing my way around the bottle, I overlapped the first stroke I made, and it kinda smudged it. Oh well, live in learn. ( I hate that saying)

I must say, it was harder to get the CLAY in the shape of the bottle for it to rest it as it forms. That stuff was HARD. I almost thought about nuking some fondant I have in the fridge and using it for the resting mold. LOL

Man, I really hope this works. icon_biggrin.gif

Brooke420 Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 2:19pm
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When I used the mold builder I put on many, many coats. The first several layers looked like they were pulling up the layers underneath, but it came out fine. I read on one of the threads and it said to alternate the direction you put the mold builder on i.e. 1st one vertical strokes, second horizontal, third, vertical, etc. That seemed to work well for me.
Be careful when you pour the sugar in the bottle--I used a tall playtex sippie cup to hold the bottle (another tip from a thread) when I poured the hot sugar in. The mold gets really hot, and super flexible. The sippie cup provided good support for me. Good luck.

Rosie2 Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 5:20pm
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Hi Sweetcreavings, sorry you had so much trouble with your product. I'm not sure what you bought at Michaels, but I've heard someone bought "The amazing mould Putty' and she really liked it.
I think there is a variety of products to make your own molds, but a friend from CC gave me the name of an Australian company that sells Elastosil silicone rubber and she really liked it. She used it to make her bottle molds. The name of the company is Dalchem and they're in Australia. http://www.dalchem.com.au/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=109 apparently they sell all the products to make professional flexible masks. I am planning to order from them when I figure out their shipping charges...I don't want to end up paying more for the shipping than what the products is worth...icon_smile.gif
Ok, good luck and don't give up...keep trying until you make perfect icon_smile.gif

ThisNameInUse Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 5:20pm

OOh..the sippy cup is a good idea.....I read something about slipping the mold through a hole in a piece of cardboard to hold the mold, too...

But....then when do you place it in the clay mold?

From what I've understood from the posts, I was thinking that you place the mold in the clay holder, and pour the sugar in the mold, rotating the clay mold as you pour until the silicone mold is completely covered....

I am the queen of the run-on sentence.

Rosie2 Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 6:12pm
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I am the queen of the run-on sentence.



Ditto icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

Rosie2 Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 6:15pm

And sorry to ask such a stupid question...wouldn't a regular cup work just like a 'sippie cup'? what's the difference?

Brooke420 Posted 25 Mar 2009 , 9:25pm

The sippie cup worked well for me because it was tall enough to support the bottle mold, and snug enough that it wasn't collapsing. I used the sippie cup when I poured in the sugar and rotated it. It's been a while since I made one, but I think that's what I did. The sippie also provided a little insulation from the heat, but I don't see why another kind of cup wouldn't work.

ThisNameInUse Posted 26 Mar 2009 , 6:10pm

Here is a pic of my bottle after about 9 coats of the Mold Builder. After each coat has dried, I've kinda looked over it for any spots that seems thin that could be a potential weak spot in the mold, and brushed a little over that spot and let it dry. Then I apply a coat all over the entire bottle again
LL

Rosie2 Posted 26 Mar 2009 , 6:29pm

'ThisNameInUse' I love your nick, LOL

Wow, your mold came out perfect!!! thumbs_up.gif
Thank you for bringing it...and forgive me if you already answered this question: which mold builder did you use? is it the one from Michaels?
and one last question. How long did you wait between coats?
Ok, thank you!

ThisNameInUse Posted 26 Mar 2009 , 7:05pm

LOL thanks... Every name I tried was used and I kept getting the "This name is in use" message...

I still think I need a couple more coats on my mold for it to hold up under use. So it will probably be around 12 coats total by the time it's done. Hubby said he thinks it's ready to peel off the bottle *now*, but I am not that confident yet...

The very first coat I let dry for about 3 or 4 hours. I could tell that it was really good and dry. It wasn't squishy or sticky at all, so I felt ok with putting the second coat on. Then I went to bed and let it dry overnight.

The mold builder turns kinda like a clear yellowish color when it's dry. When I see that, I kinda touch it to make sure it feels dry, then apply the next coat. I have a little space heater that I sat on the table next to the mold to help it dry. I'm probably just wasting electricity though because it really doesn't take very long for it to dry at all. You'll be able to tell when it's ok for the next coat.

In my picture, the mold is dry, so you can see what color it turns once it is built up with layers of the mold builder.

The product I am using is actually called "Mold Builder, and it's made by Castin' Craft. It's in a while lil' tub with a purple label. I bought it at Michael's and it was $12.99. There is a picture of it that someone on CC posted of it, either in this thread or the other sugar bottle thread.

Rosie2 Posted 26 Mar 2009 , 10:31pm

Thank you 'ThisNameInUse' icon_smile.gif I think is the same stuff I saw at Michaels...I think I will buy it. I was thinking on ordering other molding stuff on-line, but it's very expensive. If this works that's what I'll use.
Your mold is coming out perfect, congratulations!!

BTW, did you buy a especial brush to apply it?
Ok, thank you!!!

ThisNameInUse Posted 26 Mar 2009 , 10:47pm

http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-624303.html

Click that, Rosie2!

No special brush...it was maybe an inch wide, came in an economy pack of lil craft brushes...nylon brush maybe? It was easy to wash out.

sweetcravings Posted 27 Mar 2009 , 12:53pm

Thanks for showing how you made the mold. I don't think that's the same stuff i bought at michaels. My silicone stuff was pink, like bubblegum. I certainly don't think i could've brushed it on,as it dried way to quick.
Suz

Rosie2 Posted 27 Mar 2009 , 5:00pm
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Originally Posted by ThisNameInUse

http://www.cakecentral.com/cake-decorating-ftopict-624303.html

Click that, Rosie2!

No special brush...it was maybe an inch wide, came in an economy pack of lil craft brushes...nylon brush maybe? It was easy to wash out.



"ThisNameInUse' you rock!! icon_smile.gif...I've never seen your thread on the bottles adventure. You took pics as you went along, that's awesome!!
Well, you're definitelly a pro thumbs_up.gif your first attempt and look how good you did!!! you must show us the cake when you do it.
Thanks a million and I think you should change your nick to 'SugarBottleExpert' LOL icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif
Graciasssssss!!!

ThisNameInUse Posted 28 Mar 2009 , 3:55am

haha thanks...I dunno about pro, but I am getting better with each bottle. I cannot believe how easy it is. I made 3 in a matter of a couple hours this evening.

I can't believe that something so awesome was so simple....that never happens.

Everyone who is even thinking about wanting to do this but is afraid to, JUST TRY IT! You will be so surprised at how easy it is, and you'll be so proud of yourself and your very cool bottles!

Rosie2 Posted 28 Mar 2009 , 4:01pm

I'm going to Michaels today to buy my mold builder and my brushes...there's a 40% coupon out.
Thank you again ThisNameInUse!!!

cook4kids Posted 15 May 2009 , 1:53am

thank you for your pics. i do think it is very cool and i will be making some for the top of a cake.... lovin it.

Rutabaker Posted 20 Jul 2010 , 3:16am

Hi! Thanks so much for showing your painted mold using mold builder. I am trying this right now and I think I am doing it right, but who knows...
How many coats did you actually end up with? And...once you make the sugar form..how do you store the sugar bottle? My cake needs to be completed by Saturday. Thanks so much!

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