A Thread For All Uk Bakers!!

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catsmum Posted 8 Nov 2011 , 3:28pm
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They were selling them at the show for £20... although I saw a woman just take one off the shelf and walk off with it... appalling.

I bought mine about a month ago, though I haven't used it yet. I didn't want it to risk messing up my fondant on the show cake.
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I bought my Mat well over a year ago and would thoroughly recommend it for rolling out as the sugarpaste doesn't dry out and it makes positioning over the cake much easier. I have had some problems with "pockmarks" which Kathy from Sweetwise talks about on one of her YouTube videos. I did discuss this with her at the show and she told me they have modified the material the Mat is made from and she gave me a new one to see if that resolves the problem. That's what I call customer service!
Even with that I love it as I can smooth out any imperfections with a light coating of icing sugar on a smoother.

Disgusting that someone would steal something - don't know how they can live with themselves..

Congratulations on your awards ladies - well done! thumbs_up.gif

allaboutcakeuk Posted 8 Nov 2011 , 10:00pm
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I got a silver. I spoke to the judges today and i was marked down because the board made the cake look top heavy. They said I should have used a bigger board and put something around the bottom of the cake to hide the seam like pearls or something. They said I would have got gold if I did those things. So just thought id share that so others are aware for future competitions.




Congratulations to you all - how brilliant to see you all did so well. Ah don't get me started on the board mark down scenario icon_sad.gif you did fab though you should all be so proud thumbs_up.gif

emma_123 Posted 10 Nov 2011 , 9:00pm
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Well done ladies, those cakes were amazing and your prizes were very well deserved!

I got 'the mat' lately and really love using it, it means the fondant doesn't get ripped or stretched when being moved and make it much quicker to cover cakes (for me anyway as it always took me ages!).

Talking of fondant I've been trying out different brands of fondant and certainly didn't like the silver spoon one I used today and was wondering what everybody else used to cover cakes with?

catsmum Posted 10 Nov 2011 , 9:33pm
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I use the Tescos own brand or RegalIce. The Tesco sugarpaste has just had a change of packaging so I hope that doesn't mean the recipe or supplier has changed. Yet to try it.

melonball Posted 10 Nov 2011 , 10:58pm
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I used to use Tesco but following a recommendation on here I switched to asda so much better to work with I couldn't get to asda the other week and had to get Tesco (new style packaging) and it was just the same quite dry and much harder to cover a cake and smooth compared to asda.
Tried dr otker regalice it's ok....asda still best (and I work for Tesco!!!)

janbabe Posted 10 Nov 2011 , 11:12pm
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I buy regalice from my local sugarstore now. Used to use Tescos own, then they seemed to change the format of it as it went all sticky and seemed to take longer to 'set'.

well done to all who won a prize and to all that took the time to enter. x

allaboutcakeuk Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 10:21am
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Well done ladies, those cakes were amazing and your prizes were very well deserved!

I got 'the mat' lately and really love using it, it means the fondant doesn't get ripped or stretched when being moved and make it much quicker to cover cakes (for me anyway as it always took me ages!).

Talking of fondant I've been trying out different brands of fondant and certainly didn't like the silver spoon one I used today and was wondering what everybody else used to cover cakes with?




I'm still not 100% about the mat whether it would make a difference for me
? Icing, I always use regalice OR BFP covapaste (quite a vanilla taste and smell so not always everyone's cup of tea) icon_smile.gif

janbabe Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 1:53pm
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anyone had a go at making your own marshmallow fondant?! icon_biggrin.gif

Valkstar Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 2:06pm
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anyone had a go at making your own marshmallow fondant?! icon_biggrin.gif




I made my own last year. I need black fondant for a biker cake and it worked brilliantly. I couldn't let anyone eat it though or they'd all have black teeth icon_lol.gif

allaboutcakeuk Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 2:45pm
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anyone had a go at making your own marshmallow fondant?! icon_biggrin.gif




I haven't had a go, thought about it as everyone raves about it on here. Oh no black is a nightmare. I advise people what will happen but they still go for it icon_smile.gif

LisaPeps Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 3:06pm
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I've made my own marshmallow fondant. I didn't like it as you couldn't roll it as thin, covered well but sometimes had little pick marks. I've also made michele fosters fondant, wonderful to work with, one of my favourites but such a PITA to make. I've made Jennifer dontz' semi homemade fondant, which is also excellent but the ingredients are quite expensive to get hold of. This is my absolute favourite "homemade" fondant.

I'm using Massa ticino tropic at the minute, it's a dream to work with and rolls super thin but I'm not keen on the taste (doesn't matter that much as you roll it so thin) but it's expensive.

I couldn't work with regalice or covapaste, had a nightmare with those.

Haven't tried the supermarket brands yet. But I think the key to making fondant more workable is to add chocolate.

sanmarco5 Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 3:11pm
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I used to use Tesco but following a recommendation on here I switched to asda so much better to work with I couldn't get to asda the other week and had to get Tesco (new style packaging) and it was just the same quite dry and much harder to cover a cake and smooth compared to asda.
Tried dr otker regalice it's ok....asda still best (and I work for Tesco!!!)




is this Asda's own brand? I actually quite like sainsburys own brand never tried asda. I just bought some covapaste to try, as normally use regalise but so many people have told me they hate regalice so I am wondering if I am making work for myself by using it!!

melonball Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 4:56pm
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Originally Posted by melonball

I used to use Tesco but following a recommendation on here I switched to asda so much better to work with I couldn't get to asda the other week and had to get Tesco (new style packaging) and it was just the same quite dry and much harder to cover a cake and smooth compared to asda.
Tried dr otker regalice it's ok....asda still best (and I work for Tesco!!!)



is this Asda's own brand? I actually quite like sainsburys own brand never tried asda. I just bought some covapaste to try, as normally use regalise but so many people have told me they hate regalice so I am wondering if I am making work for myself by using it!!




Yeah it's asda own brand. The three I listed above are the only ones I've tried but that is partly because my cake shop only stocks regalice and knowing it hasn't had great feedback I haven't got any. But I did find out that you can buy satin ice from sugarshack so thinking about buying some of that maybe.......

Lisa where do you get your fondant?

sanmarco5 Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 5:03pm
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I used to use Tesco but following a recommendation on here I switched to asda so much better to work with I couldn't get to asda the other week and had to get Tesco (new style packaging) and it was just the same quite dry and much harder to cover a cake and smooth compared to asda.
Tried dr otker regalice it's ok....asda still best (and I work for Tesco!!!)



is this Asda's own brand? I actually quite like sainsburys own brand never tried asda. I just bought some covapaste to try, as normally use regalise but so many people have told me they hate regalice so I am wondering if I am making work for myself by using it!!



Yeah it's asda own brand. The three I listed above are the only ones I've tried but that is partly because my cake shop only stocks regalice and knowing it hasn't had great feedback I haven't got any. But I did find out that you can buy from sugarshack so thinking about buying some of that maybe.......

Lisa where do you get your fondant?




I have only really used regalice, and never have a problem, the dr oetker supermarket regalice isnt as good as the cake decorating shop proper renshaw regalice. Although when i started sugarcraft 25 years ago regalice was probably the only brand available. I like the taste find it rolls out & covers beautifully, but then read that no one likes it, so figures maybe I am missing out on something even better! but not sure what that could be (apart from maybe s sugarpaste that ices the cake itself, whilst I sit back with a cuppa & watch!), did buy some black recently and found that very sticky though!
Have just bought a box of covapaste to try, so will see how that goes next week. someone told me M&B (I think) is fantastic, but expensive, but again, I dont see how it can be that much better than what i am using so dont consider it worth the additional cost!

sanmarco5 Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 5:06pm
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meant to add a friend in US just tried satin ice for first time & hated it, so I guess its to each his own!!

melonball Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 5:11pm
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I got some M&B in deep red for the wedding cupcakes I used and it smelt horrid!! And didn't taste great either!
I used the renshaw black for my minnie mouse (which doesn't seem to be very popular on here) and the penguins on my winter wonderland cake and didn't have a problem with it.

What does everyone pay for their fondant and where do you get it from?

sanmarco5 Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 5:16pm
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I got some M&B in deep red for the wedding cupcakes I used and it smelt horrid!! And didn't taste great either!
I used the renshaw black for my minnie mouse (which doesn't seem to be very popular on here) and the penguins on my winter wonderland cake and didn't have a problem with it.


What does everyone pay for their fondant and where do you get it from?



Local shop does me regal ice for 3.5o a kilo, she charges more generally but does me it cheaper as she knows me. If,its a kids cake I generally use the dr oetker one as morrisons did have it for 2.29 kilo so big difference.
Just ordered 5k covapaste from sugar shack which was £15 and free pap, regal ice is £18 from them x

Lemmers Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 5:58pm
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I generally buy Renshaw Regalice for around £8.50 for 2.5kg but may look to buy online as this is from a cake store so quite pricey. I believe cakestuff.com is one of the cheapest for regalice/covapaste!

Haven't tried any others as I get on fine with Renshaws, did try making my own MMF but found it went crumbly very quickly before I'd finished working with it so I haven't tried again. Coward! ha ha!

allaboutcakeuk Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 6:55pm
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I pay £12-15 for covapaste 5kg and paid £31 today for 10kg of renshaws regalice icon_smile.gif
I do like the smell of covapaste have to say. M&B love the colours and because they are strong colours but does smell weird to me - like play doh perhaps lol?

LisaPeps Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 7:06pm
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I paid about £48 for 7kg of Massa Ticino tropic. The quality of it justifies the price and because you can roll it out so thin, it goes further. I only use it for covering, any fondant details i use regalice. You get it from town and county fine foods (just google it). Next cake I'm going to try 50/50 Massa with regalice.

If you look in my pics, the last 3 cakes (golf, winter wonderland and peppa pig) I did I used the Massa Ticino, IMO you can really tell the difference in the covering of the cake.

emma_123 Posted 11 Nov 2011 , 7:35pm
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Thank you so much for all your replies, I think I might look online now and maybe try some other options. Quite interesting about the asda stuff too, there isn't a store nearby but next time I'm near one I'll make sure to get some to try out. I've tried Sainsburys own brand and wasn't keen though, hopefully the new tescos stuff will be better (if they've changed it and not just the packaging).

tm-treats Posted 16 Nov 2011 , 2:12am
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Hello!

Been reading some of the posts here. To answer some questions:

Fondant: Regalice is best for covering cakes because they are more stable. However, I've recently tried Covapaste and I LOVE IT! Officially switching to this one now! It is much better when cover large cakes. I still buy regalice though if I need coloured fondants. For emergencies, I use Dr Oetker's (not sure about spelling) fondant, it's good enough. I heard Asda's fondant is quite good too but I haven't tried it myself.

The Mat - if you can covering large cakes on a regular basis, I highly recommend this one. A bit expensive but totally worth the money!

Wonky Cake tins - I came across these (search for "Topsy Turvy / Wonky Square Cake tins 4 Tiers" in ebay) cake tins while searching. I was wondering if anybody has bought/ tried them? Thinking of buying one. I like the convenience of this but I am worried it might not work. I'm guessing baking cakes in these will take forever because it is so deep. Also worried of uneven baking or worse burning parts of the cake.

Hope you can help!

Thanks!

sanmarco5 Posted 16 Nov 2011 , 10:52am
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I was at sainsburys yesterday & noticed they now sell Mich Turner ready to roll icing, in a black box, made by silver spoon, its about £3.50 normally (1k) but was on offer for i think around £2.60. I didnt buy as have just bought lots of covapaste, but wondered if anyone has tried it, it is suppose to be madagascan vanilla flavour!

Onto the covapaste, tried it last night, loved it, very stretchy compared to regalice, can be rolled very thinly, covered really nicely, but a very dull finish, I find regalice very shiny in comparison.

bashini Posted 18 Nov 2011 , 12:16pm
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Hi everyone, just a quick quesion, do you any of you know how to upload a step by step to the article section please? I tried to find and couldn't find anything. icon_sad.gif

tm-treats Posted 18 Nov 2011 , 12:22pm
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Hi everyone, just a quick quesion, do you any of you know how to upload a step by step to the article section please? I tried to find and couldn't find anything. icon_sad.gif




Hi Bashini,

try getting in touch with the moderator? I'm sure they can help. If not, try getting in touch directly with the people who created articles in the past.

HTH

allaboutcakeuk Posted 19 Nov 2011 , 3:32pm
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Hi all, ladies I have a huge ask but this one is going to give me sleepless nights if I don't get some input soon icon_smile.gif I've been asked to quote on a cake. i'm finding it really difficult to see all the detail on this cake. To me it looks like hydrangea blossoms?? with butterflies? or are the butterflies just on wires? I've posted a photo in my gallery = its the all white wedding cake. However, here comes the crunch as well, they want a quote for this cake in 7 tiers!! Only to serve 160 people though in red velvet so naturally I suggested dummy tiers starting from a 16" round. What honestly would you say a price for this kind of cake would be. A figure jumped in my head but it's hard to really see the decoration really well. Any help on what the deco is and also a rough idea on what you'd price would be so helpful and thank you! icon_smile.gif

bashini Posted 19 Nov 2011 , 4:53pm
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Hi allabout, what a great opportunity you've got. But its going to be an expencive one even though you use styrofoam. My price guide would be between £800-£900 with all the decorations.

I am sure you know how to make the Hydrangeas, but here is a great tutorial if you like to have a look,

http://petalsweet.blogspot.com/2010/01/hydrangea-tutorial-part-one-by.html

And for the butterflies, I would use the Patchwork cutter's butterflies and let them dry completely and stick them on the cake. If you want some of them to go on the flowers, I would wire them.

Here is how you can do them.

http://sugarteachers.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-make-sugarpaste-butterfly.html

HTH. icon_biggrin.gif

bashini Posted 19 Nov 2011 , 4:55pm
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Originally Posted by bashini

Hi everyone, just a quick quesion, do you any of you know how to upload a step by step to the article section please? I tried to find and couldn't find anything. icon_sad.gif



Hi Bashini,

try getting in touch with the moderator? I'm sure they can help. If not, try getting in touch directly with the people who created articles in the past.

HTH




Thanks TMT for your reply. I have PMed a moderator but still no answer. Will see how it goes. icon_biggrin.gif

allaboutcakeuk Posted 19 Nov 2011 , 5:29pm
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Hi allabout, what a great opportunity you've got. But its going to be an expencive one even though you use styrofoam. My price guide would be between £800-£900 with all the decorations.

I am sure you know how to make the Hydrangeas, but here is a great tutorial if you like to have a look,

http://petalsweet.blogspot.com/2010/01/hydrangea-tutorial-part-one-by.html

And for the butterflies, I would use the 's butterflies and let them dry completely and stick them on the cake. If you want some of them to go on the flowers, I would wire them.

Here is how you can do them.

http://sugarteachers.blogspot.com/2009/06/how-to-make-sugarpaste-butterfly.html

HTH. icon_biggrin.gif




Hi Bashini thanks so much for your advice. I know it looks a seriously big deal doesn't it. A great challenge even with dummies as you say! I had a NIGHTMARE with hydrangeas a while back. they just didn't want to stay around the small centre just kept flopping not good at all. then they just broke as didn't seem to have enough to hold around. I have the jem cutters for them the plastic ones. thanks for the butterfly ideas too. I had kinda in mind just over the £1k so you're pretty close too. was just thinking how many of them flowers am i going to need to make to cover all the tiers - esp a base of 16"!!! late nights icon_smile.gificon_eek.gif

p.s. sorry i don't know how to do the uploads either, i was struggling the other day with pictures it just didn't seem to like me!

sharon24 Posted 19 Nov 2011 , 6:05pm
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Hi all you UK bakers,I haven't posted for a while but have been following the thread.

Well done to everyone in the show!!! I couldn't go as it was the weekend of my daughter's wedding and the first time I made a proper wedding cake. It all went really well and since then i have made a three tier baby shower cake and a huge engagement cake so I have been busy caking.

I am now also set up as a business too and registered with the la.

Anyway I wanted to just add to the discussion on sugar paste, I use Sweet Silk from Sweet Success, it is really good and gives a smooth finish and is also good for modeling. I ordered a sample pack of some others and used them all to cover some mini cakes and the sweet silk came out tops on taste, ease of use and looks.

happy caking everyone

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