Would You Refuse This Order? A Bit Controversial

Lounge By FeGe_Cakes Updated 21 Jan 2009 , 8:31pm by mommyle

FeGe_Cakes Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 9:25pm
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Check out this article about a supermarket that refused to personalize a child's cake.

http://www.lehighvalleylive.com/today/index.ssf/2008/12/holland_township_family_angry.html

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CreationsByCaryl Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 9:41pm
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I think it's a poor decision on the super market's part as it IS the child's name. HOWEVER, I think the parents are morons for naming their child that KNOWING what kind of (*&* this kid is going to have to put up with his whole life.

Mike1394 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 9:42pm
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Good for them. Yeah I know free speech, and all that crap. Not only would I have NOT made the cake. I most certainly would've helped him on his way.

Mike

SharonK1973 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 9:57pm
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Seems to me like the parents only want to make trouble. I mean when was the last time you put someone's full name on a cake? I don't believe I have ever done that. What's wrong with a simple "Happy Birthday Adolf"? Its a pity that they have subjected their innocent children to such unnecessary problems.

Carolynlovescake Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 9:58pm
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This is going to be a hot button so I'm going to put on my flame suit and jump in.

One one hand I say it's not that young boys fault so do the name. Let the child have his birthday cake with his name on it because he can't help it.

On the other hand I see the store's reason. For me it's personal and I would refuse it.

I have family who survived that era in that region. Athough the focus was on a certain religion fear ran through the entire area because they knew at the turn of a hat it could be their faith.

My best friend growing up had a grandmother (who we all called grandma at her urging) who survived a camp. Even in the summer she would wear long sleeves to hide her number. They never talked about it. One night we were doing homework in I think it was our junior year very possibly senior year in high school and our teacher was obsessed with the topic of WW2. My friend and I were talking about class one day after school and what the teacher was saying. Grandma came flying in absolutely in a panic demanding who was talking about this subject with us. When we told her she tells us to get in the car and drives us right back to school. She marched into the office with us and demanded the principal get that teacher in her office immediately. We had to repeat what we heard word for word back to everyone. Grandma asked the teacher "is that what you really said?" She confirmed it and grandma went off on her like no tomorrow asking what made her qualified to teach the subject and she said it was a fascinating topic and she had done years of research. Grandma was about to punch her lights out and ripped off her sweater and said "you don't know $#@$ $#! *%$@# #$#%& about WW2 andif you teach one more thing about what you think and not what is printed in the books I'll sue you for all you are worth." With out a word she pointed at us and the door and drove home with out another word. When we got home that night she opened up about it and that was a history lesson I wil never forget.

Based on what I know that wasn't taught in the text books not only by Grandma but by three Uncles (mom's brothers) as well who were at the camps at the end of the war to assist even hearing the name makes my arm and neck hair stand on end.

When Grandma died her children stood and opened with "many of you had no idea Grandma was a holocost survivor..." and almost every jaw dropped in that room. She hated anyone knowing because they looked at her and treated her differently and she hated it when it happened.

She was my hero. She lost 3 brothers, her parents, and lost all but a cousin and an uncle who did not find her for at least 7 years after the war ended. I can't even imagine the lifetime of pain loosing not only your immediate family but 98% of them in a matter of days and living with it. It would kill me from the inside out.

I have turned down adult themed cakes, I have turned down satanic designs, and I'd turn down this. It wouldn't be easy, I'd get bad press but I'd end up probably winning more customers because of it. It's a chance I'm wiling to take.

-K8memphis Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 9:59pm
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Isn't it as free a country for the store as it is for the customer?

FeGe_Cakes Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 9:59pm
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Me personally I would not do that cake, but they probably would not have asked since I do not share their skin color.


But it is a child, but why wouldn't the cake say "Happy Birthday Adolf" instead of "Adolf Hitler".

-K8memphis Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:03pm
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Every body needs to read The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom.
Just once.

She basically picks up where Anne Frank leaves off.

michellenj Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:04pm
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This story actually happened in my area. IMO, the parents are just looking for someone to sue. He can't work because he has asthma, and she can't work because she has a bad back.

Those kids are in for a hard road with those names. Can you picture those names on a business card or resume? I really feel for them.

ShopGrl1128 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:13pm
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Originally Posted by k8memphis

Every body needs to read The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom.
Just once.

She basically picks up where Anne Frank leaves off.




Anne Frank's diary is my favorite book, I've read it many times; I will definatly look into The Hidding Place.

...and those parents naming those poor kids those names...what a shame...

SaraClassic Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:13pm
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Ive never put my last name or my kids last names on a cake. Just sounds like trouble. icon_confused.gif Thats messed up, hope he changes his name .

Rachael1013 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:14pm
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Personally, I wouldn't have done it. You have a right to refuse service. I don't do things that make me uncomfortable or strike me as offensive. It's sad that those kids have to grow up with those names and they won't even understand what they refer to until it's too late.

Galler Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:22pm
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I have heard of some horrible names before but wtf? Sorry but that poor kid! I thought my friend in high school had it hard when his parents named him Richard "Dick" Hair and his sister was Leslie "Les" Hair. No joke!

I agree with Rachael1013 "you have a right to refuse service" and I would.

JaLa90016 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:24pm
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Poor kid! You can't blame the supermarket for not wanting to put the inscriptioin on the cake. The supermarket did give them the option to put it on themselves.

"If You Don't Stand For Something, You Will Fall For Anything."
Don't know the Author but my Mama used to tell me this all the time.

Galler Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:26pm
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-K8memphis Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:29pm
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Originally Posted by CakeGrlPA

Quote:
Originally Posted by k8memphis

Every body needs to read The Hiding Place by Corrie Ten Boom.
Just once.

She basically picks up where Anne Frank leaves off.



Anne Frank's diary is my favorite book, I've read it many times; I will definatly look into The Hidding Place.




Y'know Anne is so innocent and embodies hope like a flower bud in Spring pushing bravely through the frozen ground daring to reach the sunlight. She represents the future and youth and beauty. And then she gets taken away and we know she perishes.

Corrie reveals what happens next because she herself was taken to a camp with her sister. I only read it once decades ago. I often remember the story.

Y'know I don't remember the name, but Italy recently refused to allow new parents to name a child a certain name. We should have done that here in this case to protect this little boy.

bobwonderbuns Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:31pm
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I would definitely have issues with that name, but I'd have no problem with "happy 5th birthday Adolf" (or however old he is.) I have yet to do a child's birthday cake where they want the full first middle and last name on a birthday cake. icon_confused.gif

KHalstead Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:31pm
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i would've totally refused to do that cake!!!!!!!

ShopGrl1128 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:34pm
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Originally Posted by Galler

Did you see the photos from their home? http://photos.lehighvalleylive.com/gallery/4424/Adolf%20Hitler%20Campbell




Disgusting...poor kids.

FeGe_Cakes Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:38pm
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[quote="CarolynGwen"]This is going to be a hot button so I'm going to put on my flame suit and jump in.

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No need to put your flame suit on. You shared a very touching story and I want to thank you for that.

sayhellojana Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:43pm
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If I were making the cake, I would do it like they asked, but would DEFFINANTLY not take any photos or leave any proof. Business is business, and it is the poor child's name.

But really, you have to seriously question the sanity of those parents. That boy is going to end up like Larence King, the boy that was murdered on a school campus for being gay. It's sad.

DsLady614 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:47pm
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Sadly, these kids are either going to be stuck with these names or there will be some name changes going on in court starting in about 15 years.

Legally, there is some question as to whether this is really "protected" speech, since even the names are enough to bring fear to the minds of people. I have to admit, I'd make the cake ONLY if it were using first name only.

BlondiezBakery Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 10:57pm
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I support the store 100%. They have a business and a name they have to represent, and they did what they thought was best for them.

1st: Just imagine if the press got ahold of a cake that said that, and slammed ShopRite. Then, PR has to get involved and post a retraction for allowing the business

2nd: Just cause ShopRite didn't make the cake, doesn't mean that the parents didn't have the option to go somewhere else with their business.

Personally...I would have done the cake...b/c I just don't really care that much about PC stuff....just wouldn't take pictures or associate myself with it.

all4cake Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 11:06pm
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call me ignorant...who is honszlynn hinler????

People ain't got nothing better to do than to plant seeds of hate!

I say, if you gonna get attitude or make a stand/point...make an effort to do the research! Geez! Really! were they going for uh himmler maybe....

uh...um...dayum baby! what was that other *$)('s name? Sheeit, it's sumpin' like humpastinker handler. Oh, you talkin' 'bout honszlynn hinler baby! dang! get it right! shoooooot...we almost named our baby humpastinker handler 'cause a yer dang dumb @$$! I just watched it on the history channel last week. Good thing one of us was payin' attention!


Ignorant ...just plain out ignorant.

I'm going to check my spelling now!

-K8memphis Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 11:08pm
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Originally Posted by vstar_pilot

Legally, there is some question as to whether this is really "protected" speech, since even the names are enough to bring fear to the minds of people.




What do you mean? What's the question and what's the protected part?

CakeMommyTX Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 11:08pm
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Screw em', people who name their children in honor of mass murderers don't deserve cake.

-K8memphis Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 11:10pm
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Originally Posted by all4cake

call me ignorant...who is honszlynn hinler????




Yeah I googled it and I found nothin.

Getus Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 11:11pm
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It appears as if the parents are getting exactly what they were wanting......attention.

Those parents are a classic example of ignorance gone to seed.

Tita9499 Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 11:12pm
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Just like a previous poster, I refuse to do cakes that are considered pornographic (naughty), satanic, or discriminatory (against anyone). I don't even do Halloween cakes, but this is my personal set of beliefs. Because of the way I'm raising my children, how would it look if Mama did a cake with a swastika on it? It would totally confuse them and demean my authority, you know the 'ole, "do as I say not as I do"?

I completely agree with the stores decision. Who knows what would've been next, the parents may come in for their anniversary with an order for a cake that says something even more offensive. More companies need to be like this one instead of selling themselves out for a buck.

mocakes Posted 15 Dec 2008 , 11:15pm
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Those kids are in for a hard road with those names. Can you picture those names on a business card.




Unfortunately, I have a really hard time imagining those children growing up to be what we call the business type needing business cards.

It really makes me sad to think what ignorance is being taught in their home and what those children will end up like.

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