I Saw This Idea And Would Like To Try It But...

Decorating By TrinaH Updated 12 Oct 2008 , 4:29pm by TrinaH

TrinaH Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 8:30pm
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OK, I saw a round tiered spiderman cake in the gallery that has two upright spider webs on it and the creator mentioned using royal icing to make them.

My questions are 1) would you think that taking a web pattern and just piping RI over it would create a sturdy web? One web is going down the side of two layers, so it's not against the cake entirely. 2) Can you think of any other good alternatives other than RI or rolled gumpaste to create such a thing?

Here are the webs in question
http://cakecentral.com/modules.php?name=gallery&file=displayimage&pid=331053

26 replies
Hollysuann Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 8:44pm
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I think you would have to go over it several times with RI to make it sturdy. The lines look pretty thick to me.

bashini Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 8:44pm
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Hi. like you said, take the pattern and pipe over it. You might need to do extra one or two in case if one breaks. icon_smile.gif

TrinaH Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 8:49pm
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Originally Posted by Hollysuann

I think you would have to go over it several times with RI to make it sturdy. The lines look pretty thick to me.




That's what concerns me.... that looks pretty darn thick! I'm just really not seeing how it would work with RI and still be thick!

Also, how would you attach it to the cake? Like I said, I've never really worked with RI much, but doesn't having it in contact with the shortening in the BC break it down? Or am I thinking of something else?

SugarFrosted Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 9:19pm
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White chocolate might work too

fiddlesticks Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 9:25pm
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What an awesome cake ! Did you pm and ask her ? She might share answers to all your questions?

deliciously_decadent Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 9:42pm
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ld also add support by usinf florist wire or skewers on the straight parts, this would just give the icing a frame for stability so that it would not be relying purely on itself to stay up, she does slo say she made lots in case of breakage!

imakecakes Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 9:44pm
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That's a great cake! I like the idea of doing white chocolate, but it's still very fragile. Try PMing her. I'm sure she'd help!

Brujalita Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 9:53pm
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Originally Posted by TrinaH

Also, how would you attach it to the cake? Like I said, I've never really worked with RI much, but doesn't having it in contact with the shortening in the BC break it down? Or am I thinking of something else?




I think RI doesn't like shortening/grease when it's being made. After that, should it contact bc, the break down is not instantaneous (sp). I still wait until the last possible minute, tho, to put my RI decos on bc, just in case (Murphy likes to stay at my house A LOT!!). As far as attaching the webs to the cake, I would probably attach a lollipop stick to the web with RI and insert the stick into the cake. HTH

angelatx Posted 8 Oct 2008 , 9:56pm
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i don't know, but thats a super coolicious cake!! would love to see the one you make, i bet its going to be fantabulous!! hi fiddlesticks!! icon_smile.gif have a great day everyone!!! icon_biggrin.gificon_biggrin.gif

TrinaH Posted 10 Oct 2008 , 7:46pm
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I'm curious about the white chocolate idea ... cuz I looove me some white chocolate haha

Does anyone else think that WC might be sturdy enough for this? The cake won't be moved around or anything and I can add it to the cake right before the party.

AHHH, I need to make this cake tomorrow night and I still don't have a "plan"

fiddlesticks Posted 10 Oct 2008 , 7:50pm
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Back at ya angelatx!!

Superstar2 Posted 10 Oct 2008 , 8:22pm
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I agree with fiddlesticks PM the cake artist. Most of us are willing to share our "How too's" on our cakes. Good luck.

TrinaH Posted 10 Oct 2008 , 8:27pm
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I did send her a PM, but she hasn't posted on CC since April so I don't think she's around icon_sad.gif

Ariginal Posted 10 Oct 2008 , 8:28pm
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I get the panic on sometimes too but in all honestly it will come to you just when you need and once you stop worrying hehe.. anyways i did a spiderman cake for my son a few years ago now and his weg was going from one building to another... i did however have a fondant covered cake and fondant spiderman handmade him. I use royal icing and to support it till it set i had like a thin cardboard strip covered in non stick paper and left it there until the last minute.. when the kids starting arriving seem to work fine and also i wasnt travelling anywhere with it so not sure how it would hold up otherwise... good luck cant wait to see your version..
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sweetcakes Posted 10 Oct 2008 , 10:42pm
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use a bigger tip like a 4 or 5 with your royal icing, or you could extrude some gumpaste through a clay gun and glue the peices together until dry. either way make lots of spares.

Ladybug6509 Posted 10 Oct 2008 , 10:53pm
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If you have a clay extruder, you could use that to form long ropes out of gumpaste and shape them where the webs meet. I've done this while making tiaras instead of using royal icing. It is a lot less fragile.

TrinaH Posted 11 Oct 2008 , 11:28pm
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Man, I wish I had a clay extruder! That sounds like it would have been perfect!! But, I know I don't have the patience to try and roll the gumpaste myself and I'm sure they would look like crap then LOL

Cake_Princess Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 12:38am
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Originally Posted by Brujalita

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Originally Posted by TrinaH

Also, how would you attach it to the cake? Like I said, I've never really worked with RI much, but doesn't having it in contact with the shortening in the BC break it down? Or am I thinking of something else?



I think RI doesn't like shortening/grease when it's being made. After that, should it contact bc, the break down is not instantaneous (sp). I still wait until the last possible minute, tho, to put my RI decos on bc, just in case (Murphy likes to stay at my house A LOT!!). As far as attaching the webs to the cake, I would probably attach a lollipop stick to the web with RI and insert the stick into the cake. HTH




Royal icing is traditionally made using egg whites. Any type of grease prevented the whites from whipping up. Having said that quite a few of the top decorators will pipe royal icing on wax paper that has a thin smear of shortening on it. The royal icing decoration will dry but will release easier.

martmarg Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 12:58am
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royal icing is pretty sturdy and I've used it to make webs and corals. But I've also used white chocolate to make spider webs. All you do is pipe it on wax paper and release when dry.

joby1 Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 1:20am
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I did the same web on my sons spiderman cakes (in my pics) with RI and it worked great. I did a couple of layers and they held up really well. Of course, I made extras, just in case clutzy me dropped them.

TrinaH Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 3:18am
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I just made a couple with RI and they are drying now. How long did you let them dry before releasing them from the wax paper?

I'm optimistic right now, but only time will tell!

joby1 Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 4:00am
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I do not remember how long, but had a few test pieces that I checked on to see if it was dry. (I did this back in April) I do not rember it taking too long between layers. Just be patient...which i am awful at and that is why I make test pieces!!!

TrinaH Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 6:39am
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I have two full webs done and two half webs done. I think I'm gonna make two more of each .... JUST in case icon_biggrin.gif I'm sooo nervous about this!

Rincewind Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 12:20pm
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I just recently saw a spider web being made on that wedding cake show. She said that she added something to royal icing to make it flexible. Does anyone have any idea what this could be?

kimmy37 Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 12:50pm
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I made a RI tiara this weekend with a tip 5 I think. I let it dry overnight with a fan blowing on it. (I'm a procrastinator--I should've made it days ahead of time!) I made a test one (in other words- I screwed up!) and let it dry about 5 hours in front of the fan. It broke, so I would recommend a longer drying time. I just taped wax paper over the pattern and drew it on. It was super easy and turned out great....should be in my pics- (or not- the site must be backed up). HTH

TrinaH Posted 12 Oct 2008 , 4:29pm
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I guess all this didn't matter anyway.... this cake was for my son's birthday party today and this morning while it was sitting on the table.... my son and my 4 yr old daughter decided to help themselves to the cake while I wasn't looking. They destroyed the borders and put their fingers all over the back side of the cake and broke most of the BC piped spider webs on the bottom layer!

All that work.... for a cake that looks like crap anyways *cry*

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