To Dowel Or Not To Dowel??

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cakebaker1957 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 1:34pm
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Im making a stacked cake for Thursday its a 8in rd and a 6in rd 2in deep
IM taking it to the place and setting it up its a birthday cake do you think that i would need to use dowel rods i will not transport it stacked i will stack it once i get where im going i just dont want the 6in mashing the 8in
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PinkZiab Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 1:41pm
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You still need some sort of support under the top layers. Dowels, straws... something to support the upper tier.

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cakebaker1957 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 1:49pm
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Originally Posted by PinkZiab

You still need some sort of support under the top layers. Dowels, straws... something to support the upper tier.




Thanks i wasnt for sure i guess the old saying goes when indoubt dont do it, I may use straws there easier to cut(:

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kakeladi Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 5:33pm
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It never hurts to put in some support.
The general rule of thumb is use dowels for every 4"or 5" of heigth......so if the 6"er is only 2" in heigth, you don't really need doweling.

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cakebaker1957 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 5:35pm
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Originally Posted by kakeladi

It never hurts to put in some support.
The general rule of thumb is use dowels for every 4"or 5" of heigth......so if the 6"er is only 2" in heigth, you don't really need doweling.




Well over all it will be 4in tall so will the 8in for a total of 8in tall for both of them hope im not confusing you

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indydebi Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:01pm
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If you were doing a 2-layer 8" cake, you wouldn't dowel these 2 layers. You have the same thing except the top layer happens to be smaller.

I wouldn't dowel this one.

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kakeladi Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:03pm
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........ its a 8in rd and a 6in rd 2in deep ....
I based my reply on th is ^^^ info.

It matters not what heigth the 'base' cake is.... be it 2, 4, 8 or 10" tall........what is important is what heigth going on top of it.
Soooooo if you have a 2" tall 8" round cake but a 4" tall 6" cake going on top of it then Yes, you should dowel.
If putting a 2" tall cake on a 2" tall cake it is not necessary........but again, it never hurts to be safe instead of sorry icon_smile.gif

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cakebaker1957 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:04pm
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Originally Posted by indydebi

If you were doing a 2-layer 8" cake, you wouldn't dowel these 2 layers. You have the same thing except the top layer happens to be smaller.

I wouldn't dowel this one.




Even if im to stack the 6in on the 8in?? Oh by the way indydebi, Thanks for your receipe for the bc icing i did on my fake cake for the fair , it turned out great(:

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indydebi Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:06pm
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... for a total of 8in tall for both of them...




Sorry, I just saw this info. I retract my last post and agree you need dowels. icon_redface.gif

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cakebaker1957 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:06pm
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Originally Posted by kakeladi

........ its a 8in rd and a 6in rd 2in deep ....
I based my reply on th is ^^^ info.

It matters not what heigth the 'base' cake is.... be it 2, 4, 8 or 10" tall........what is important is what heigth going on top of it.
Soooooo if you have a 2" tall 8" round cake but a 4" tall 6" cake going on top of it then Yes, you should dowel.
If putting a 2" tall cake on a 2" tall cake it is not necessary........but again, it never hurts to be safe instead of sorry icon_smile.gif




sorry kakeladi , the overall size on both rounds will be 4in tall 2layers of each, i didnt know if the 6in one would squish the 8in on with out dowel rods holding it up.
Thanks

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diamondsonblackvelvet13 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:16pm
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Alright I'm confused. The bottom 8 inch cake will only be 2' tall. The top 6 inch will also be 2' tall. Is this right?
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Cherie206 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:20pm
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Personally, I would use something for support, straws would even work. I would rather be safe than sorry.... You won't need too many, but it would be terrible if your cake got ruined because you didn't put a couple of straws in. I didn't do it once and my cake ended up unbalanced and looked awful. Live and learn, I say! Good luck

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diamondsonblackvelvet13 Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:21pm
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Or is this correct?
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mandifrye Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 6:28pm
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Okay, I am no expert, but I have had a DIASTER experience in this exact area.

DOWEL THE BOTTOM LAYER TO SUPPORT THE TOP! If you don't, you will squish the bottom. Trust me, not a pretty sight!!

P.S. I think that both tiers will be 4 inches tall. Right? She is using a 2 inch pan and layering those to make a tier. Just my intrepretation!!

HTH icon_biggrin.gif

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RobzC8kz Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 7:47pm
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Always, always, always, always dowl your stacked cakes! Dowls, straws, skewers, anything to support the top layer. Even if it's not a heavy cake, it's better to be safe than sorry!

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BlakesCakes Posted 29 Sep 2008 , 9:14pm
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I've read this 4 times and I'm still confused icon_eek.gif

Boiled down:

8" round, 2" tall + 6" round, 2" tall= no dowels
8" round, 2" tall + 6" round, 4" tall= dowels
8" round, 4" tall,+ 6" round ,2" tall= dowel, just to be safe
8" round, 4" tall,+ 6" round ,4" tall= always dowel

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