My clueless MIL and cookie prices

Baking By GeminiRJ Updated 30 Jun 2013 , 11:45pm by smittyditty

melvin01 Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:17pm
post #31 of 60

Alvarezmom, that is SO funny!

Yea, men and dogs, nothing gets them moving faster than food!! I wonder if they would move as fast if it was a fire...makes you wonder!

Of course, if we're talking chocolate here, I will eat it off the floor (say if a candy bar falls down, I'm all over that 5 second rule because, hey, let's be honest, you see a candy bar fall on the floor, it's not like you'll leave it there for more than 3 seconds at the most! Plus I saw the Mythbusters show on that very thing about the food on the floor/5 second rule. I figure I'd be building up my immunity if chocolate fell on the floor!) icon_biggrin.gif

tcbalgord Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:19pm
post #32 of 60

melvin I saw that episode too!!!! Totally agree when it comes to chocolate!

melvin01 Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:24pm
post #33 of 60

Tell me, it'd have to be pretty bad for me NOT to eat chocolate! And frankly, it's not falling out of my greedy little hand anyway, so it's a non-issue.

Mmmm, craving chocolate. Wish I had some Rainettes. I'd maim for some Rainettes! (the box says they have antioxidants in them, makes it healthy!!)

bobwonderbuns Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:26pm
post #34 of 60

Okay you know I'm glad this came up -- a couple weeks ago I get a call from a local bank, they want cookies with their logo on it. I research, come up with $4.00 per cookie (the average going rate being $6.00 per cookie), and she chokes and never calls back. icon_confused.gif

tcbalgord Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:26pm
post #35 of 60

lmao!!!!! Whenver i break my diet DH yells at me, and i say but it has antioxidents, so that is good for me!

alvarezmom Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:30pm
post #36 of 60

I'll have to start using the same reasoning!

I dont know what it is about corporate accounts.....I had a lady to that to me about 50 decorated cupcakes with fondant flowers. I quoted her $1.25 ea. I thought that was pretty fare and cheap...Oh no she came back with I'll just go to HEB or WalMArt and pick some they make.

tcbalgord Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:32pm
post #37 of 60

I say it was their loss. I know that I am cheaper the my competititon, granted not by much cuz I know that isn't fair to them, but hey if they want something for under $4 then say no logo!!!!

jennifer7777 Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 5:43pm
post #38 of 60

GeminiRJ...please reconsider selling your cookies...and if you do, charging A MINIMUM of $8.00! They are SO cute! I have been keeping up with your work for a while (you're on my buddy list!)

I can definitely understand your hesitance about thinking that people may not pay, but you never know until you get out there and market. You have something unique, that I know I've never seen before, so understand that you already have your market sold up! In addition, you can still get extra income from your kit sales...which I have to put on my wishlist.

Think about it...you can put your cookies in nice favor boxes with the front window, so you can see inside the box. As a matter of fact, check out www.brpboxshop.com...I think they have the perfect box that I just described. Go for it!!!

Rosie2 Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 6:03pm
post #39 of 60

OMG, your cookies are amazing!!! yes do sell them for $5.00 or more!!!
I love making decorated cookies and, I know...they are a LOT of work!! I've never sold or attempted to sell mine, I always give them away but now I have customers that want to buy some.

BTW, I have a SIL that became a widow last year (my brother past away) and she is exactly like your MIL!!...the woman is helpless!! she can't even dial a phone #, pay her bills, manage her $$, etc....my brother did it all for her and now she's lost and expect her kids to take care of her. I did tried to do my duty as a good SIL and sat with her to teach her how to balance her checkbook, pay her bills, etc but guess what? she didn't want to learn! she wants me to do it for her...always! So yeah, sadly but we all try to avoid her now including her own kids.. icon_redface.gifI became a single mom 15 yrs ago and when you're rising 3 kids on your own on a tight budget pretty quick you learn to became your own mechanic, your own plumber, gardener etc I even remodeled my own bathroom icon_biggrin.gif

Rosie2 Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 6:11pm
post #40 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by alvarezmom

I'll have to start using the same reasoning!

I dont know what it is about corporate accounts.....I had a lady to that to me about 50 decorated cupcakes with fondant flowers. I quoted her $1.25 ea. I thought that was pretty fare and cheap...Oh no she came back with I'll just go to HEB or WalMArt and pick some they make.




LOL icon_lol.gifDecorated cupcakes with fondant flowers....at least, at least $2.50 each!!

GeminiRJ Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 6:13pm
post #41 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by bobwonderbuns

Okay you know I'm glad this came up -- a couple weeks ago I get a call from a local bank, they want cookies with their logo on it. I research, come up with $4.00 per cookie (the average going rate being $6.00 per cookie), and she chokes and never calls back. icon_confused.gif




My husband's co-worker was putting together a going away party for some people and wanted to know what I would charge to do sheet cake for 100 people. Her budget? $25. And the surprising thing is, she found some poor sot to do it! It certainly wasn't me!

Thank you to everyone for the nice comments and suggestions concerning my 3D cookies. I haven't seriously thought about selling them, as I am not licensed. It's tempting to check into it, though! My "real" job is getting more and more frustrating!

And Rosie, you have my sympathies about your SIL. My MIL doesn't want to know how to do anything, either. If it's something she doesn't like to do, she simply believes someone should step up and do it for her. Oh well. It's been good to get this off my chest. I can now go home and not vent to my husband. I can now be with my MIL this weekend and not want to explode! I think, instead, I'll bake cookies.

nickshalfpint Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 6:19pm
post #42 of 60

Ohhhhh, where to begin with my MIL icon_lol.gifEVERYTHING! icon_lol.gifREALLY excited to see each other(if you know what I mean) and she was right there in the middle of everything(not literally)! Sad to say (well sort of) my DH and MIL got in a HUGE fight 3 years ago and do not speak anymore. I'm torn because it is his mom, but the things she said to him were UNBELIEVABLE. I could go on for days with stories about her..............................

Back to the subject, your cookies are AWESOME thumbs_up.gif

GeminiRJ Posted 26 Sep 2008 , 6:25pm
post #43 of 60

nickshalfpint, you have my sympathies! While my MIL is extremely annoying most of the time, at heart she's a good person. It doesn't sound like the sam can be said for yours!

And anyone can make the 3D cookies. I started making them with only about 6 months of cookie decorating under my belt, so I think they are pretty straight forward.

sugarycreations Posted 26 Oct 2008 , 6:36pm
post #44 of 60

GeminiRJ,

I hope I won't make you mad, but you simply don't get it about your MIL the same way she doesn't get it about your cookies. (They are awesome.) I'm a widow of over 6 years who just got remarried in August. The best advice you got on the list was to get your MIL involved with a grief support group. You sound to me like a very caring but frustrated DIL. It's NOT the place of your husband to take over for his dad. The second year of being a widow is a lot harder for a lot of people than the first year, but that doesn't mean you should give up your husband.

Any nudging you give her to do for herself is likely to be dismissed by her as "you just don't understand". A good support group would give her a shoulder to lean on & encouragement to do these things herself. It is easier for another widow to point out the need to adjust than family members & have it listened to. She would meet other widows that had had everything done for them, but now mow their own yard, etc.

If you don't know of a local support group, I'd like to recommend http://www.widownet.org. It has articles, links & forums for widows & widowers. It has sections for those that have recently lost their spouse & those that lost their spouse over a year ago. Gently guide or push her towards a support group. If she says you don't understand, agree with her & point out that's WHY you want her to have people to talk to that do understand. It's not always mean to use someone's words against them. <G>

Good luck. I'll be rooting for you MIL wise & cookie-wise.

Zamode Posted 26 Oct 2008 , 10:05pm
post #45 of 60

My MIL is a twit. Not about cookies and whatnot but just in general. icon_mad.gif

SILVERCAT Posted 26 Oct 2008 , 10:45pm
post #46 of 60

GeminiRJ-Do you have a tutorial for your cookies? I read through and saw you don't have a website have you thought about putting together a blog? Your cookies are AWESOME. ANd deserve way more than $5.00 per cookie!

7yyrt Posted 26 Oct 2008 , 11:23pm
post #47 of 60

I have several blogs over on www.blogspot.com You might check the site out.
It is set up easy enough for an old lady to figure out how to do.
(Me, not you) icon_biggrin.gif

GeminiRJ Posted 27 Oct 2008 , 11:58am
post #48 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by SILVERCAT

GeminiRJ-Do you have a tutorial for your cookies? I read through and saw you don't have a website have you thought about putting together a blog? Your cookies are AWESOME. ANd deserve way more than $5.00 per cookie!




I've put together two tutorials: one for the turkey cookies, and one for the "black & white" designs (panda, zebra, cow). I submitted the tutorial on the turkey to CC 2-3 weeks ago, but haven't heard if it was approved. I've emailed a couple times, but gotten no response. The second tutorial I submitted to MailBox News, but have no idea if it will be printed. Putting together a blog? I'm a computer idiot...I wouldn't even know where to begin!

GeminiRJ Posted 27 Oct 2008 , 12:05pm
post #49 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by sugarycreations

GeminiRJ,

I hope I won't make you mad, but you simply don't get it about your MIL the same way she doesn't get it about your cookies. (They are awesome.) I'm a widow of over 6 years who just got remarried in August. The best advice you got on the list was to get your MIL involved with a grief support group. You sound to me like a very caring but frustrated DIL. It's NOT the place of your husband to take over for his dad. The second year of being a widow is a lot harder for a lot of people than the first year, but that doesn't mean you should give up your husband.

Any nudging you give her to do for herself is likely to be dismissed by her as "you just don't understand". A good support group would give her a shoulder to lean on & encouragement to do these things herself. It is easier for another widow to point out the need to adjust than family members & have it listened to. She would meet other widows that had had everything done for them, but now mow their own yard, etc.

If you don't know of a local support group, I'd like to recommend http://www.widownet.org. It has articles, links & forums for widows & widowers. It has sections for those that have recently lost their spouse & those that lost their spouse over a year ago. Gently guide or push her towards a support group. If she says you don't understand, agree with her & point out that's WHY you want her to have people to talk to that do understand. It's not always mean to use someone's words against them. <G>

Good luck. I'll be rooting for you MIL wise & cookie-wise.




In no way would your suggestions make me mad! I would love to find a way to help her, but she absolutely refuses. She LIKES having people feel sorry for her, and she has gotten progressively more helpless. I try to do nice things for her, but it's never enough. She makes snide comments to my DH about never being around, which just sets him off. It's heartbreaking to see what was a very good relationship deteriorating before my eyes.

indydebi Posted 27 Oct 2008 , 12:38pm
post #50 of 60

Older people and pricing are just humorous anyway! My MIL, who I love and adore, was telling us that the two of them went out for dinner and for the two of them, it cost (gulp!) FIFTEEN DOLLARS!! She was absolutely shocked! We were trying so hard not to laugh because it's not uncommon for our tips to be bigger than that!

But it's not just because she's older. How many of us have sisters, friends and co-workers who are our age and think the same thing ....."those would be about a buck and a half, right?"

I am constantly amused by the folks who have no idea what things cost but set a budget out of thin air, like the cake for 100 and "they just decided" that it would cost $25.

That would be like me planning to buy a new Cadillac and "just deciding" that my budget is $12,000...... then having the nerve to be shocked at what they really cost, when the salesman laughs me out of the showroom.

I have a survey question on my website on "how did you decide what your wedding budget would be?" It's running half and half between "We researched to find out what things cost" and "We just winged it".

sugarycreations Posted 27 Oct 2008 , 4:28pm
post #51 of 60

See, I knew you came across as very caring. It's no wonder you're so frustrated.

Do you have any relatives that are widowed that could gently point out she's driving people away? A minister if you or she attend church? You would be better off if such suggestions came from someone other than you or your husband (I'm suspicious you have already figured that out.)

Of course, another approach might be to introduce her to single, charming gentlemen who might enjoy catering to a lady. <G> I hope you find a solution, because she is depriving herself of the company of what is obviously a loving family.

Good luck!

GeminiRJ Posted 27 Oct 2008 , 5:32pm
post #52 of 60

I wish I knew how to make everything right again. Maybe one day she'll move beyond the anger and bitterness of losing her husband, but I'm not optimistic. I'm trying to be more patient, and to keep myself from saying critical things about her to my DH. It's really all I can do. The rest is going to be up to her.

clare2582 Posted 24 Jun 2013 , 5:55pm
post #53 of 60

I am LOLing at some people's comments. At least we know we're not alone!

 

I try to avoid sharing ANYTHING about my personal interests with my MIL, because she (like everyone else's) knows everything about everything.... ever.  And whatever you think, you're stupid (mostly because she doesn't know anything and that fact that other people do makes her so insecure). 

 

So, I made some sugar cookies with simple royal icing designs for a Relay for Life bake sale. My husband thought they were AWESOME. He happened to be on the phone with his mother who said "How can a cookie be awesome? Its a cookie, give me a break." and then he sends her pictures.   I haven't heard her response, but I was so irritated with him for sharing that with her.

 

I made some shortbread cookies dipped in caramel, pecans and chocolate for Xmas one year, and she refused to eat them because they were "weird".  We ran into her coworker who told my husband that he found a good woman, because BOY! She can bake!  At least she took them to work and didn't throw them out.

 

She doesn't even try to be interested in the things I like, she just tells me everything that isn't completely bland, tasteless, run-of-the-mill and boring is "weird". She's just about the last person I would ever ask for input or advice from. 

leah_s Posted 24 Jun 2013 , 6:23pm
post #54 of 60

OTOH, if she likes it, you know you've got a problem. :-)

Annabakescakes Posted 24 Jun 2013 , 6:55pm
post #55 of 60

AHahaha! No kidding!

Original message sent by leah_s

OTOH, if she likes it, you know you've got a problem. :-)

I love my MIL and get along great with her, it is my FIL's new wife that kills me. Her son got married two weeks ago, and I did the grooms cake for the rehearsal luncheon for her, and did the wedding cake for the MOB. The grooms cake was a 9" chocolate cake with chocolate covered strawberries on top and she asked 3 times about delivery! I told her each time that I couldn't do it, and it would be $40 if I could, but I only charged her $80 for the cake.

Finally 2 days before she needs it, she asks what time I will be delivering it. Grrrr.... I told her,"Karen, I already told you 3 times that there is no way I can deliver it, I don't know why you think I should gather my 4 kids into the car and drive 20 miles to deliver a cake when you can drive over here and get it yourself much easier. You will already be out of the house, and I already have too much to do this week!" She says, "oh, you didn't tell me!" I ignored it, but I wanted to say,"scroll up, stupid!" Because it was all on Facebook messages and it was plain as day I told her I would not bring it.

Annabakescakes Posted 24 Jun 2013 , 6:58pm
post #56 of 60

ABTW, she was posting on her Facebook that her son and future DIL marriage won't be valid in the eyes of The Lord because they aren't getting married in a church. Even though a priest married them. She made her DIL cry, and MOB was furious. She is always saying something like that at every family gathering. I can't stand the witch.

ashleybakes Posted 24 Jun 2013 , 8:44pm
post #57 of 60

My MIL used to run a hair salon and she was very friendly with all of her clients. I am looking to spread the word about my baking so I asked if I could drop off a new treat each week for her to give to her clients if they would like to try one. She didn't understand what I was asking but instead offered to let me bake organic/vegan cookies to possibly sell in a vending machine she was contemplating buying at some point in the unclear future. I wanted to ask if she had ever eaten my stuff? I am not conscious of the fat content I put in my food and whether or not it's vegan (I do try to make healthy choices when buying ingredients but I would never be able to exclude eggs, butter or milk). She basically wanted me to bake oatmeal cookies.... I asked her what kind of vending machine it was that she would be able to fit a whole cake inside. 

jgifford Posted 24 Jun 2013 , 8:52pm
post #58 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by Annabakescakes 

BTW, she was posting on her Facebook that her son and future DIL marriage won't be valid in the eyes of The Lord because they aren't getting married in a church. Even though a priest married them. She made her DIL cry, and MOB was furious. She is always saying something like that at every family gathering. I can't stand the witch.

 

 

You might point out to your new in-law (sister, cousin, friend or whatever you consider her to be) that the BIBLE instructs us to support the laws of the land as long as they don't lead us to sin.  If the marriage is legal then the Lord will consider it valid also.  So no matter what her new MIL says, she's good.   icon_wink.gif

ashleybakes Posted 24 Jun 2013 , 8:53pm
post #59 of 60
Quote:
Originally Posted by indydebi 

Older people and pricing are just humorous anyway! My MIL, who I love and adore, was telling us that the two of them went out for dinner and for the two of them, it cost (gulp!) FIFTEEN DOLLARS!! She was absolutely shocked! We were trying so hard not to laugh because it's not uncommon for our tips to be bigger than that!

But it's not just because she's older. How many of us have sisters, friends and co-workers who are our age and think the same thing ....."those would be about a buck and a half, right?"

I am constantly amused by the folks who have no idea what things cost but set a budget out of thin air, like the cake for 100 and "they just decided" that it would cost $25.

That would be like me planning to buy a new Cadillac and "just deciding" that my budget is $12,000...... then having the nerve to be shocked at what they really cost, when the salesman laughs me out of the showroom.

I have a survey question on my website on "how did you decide what your wedding budget would be?" It's running half and half between "We researched to find out what things cost" and "We just winged it".

 

I hate that! A friend of mine asked for a cake that would feed 35 people and said, "Don't worry, I will give you $30." 

That hardly even covered ingredients, but I made it anyway because she is my daughter's godmother. 

Not to mention it was coral and navy and I spent all night one night trying to mix the colors just right and every time I sent her a picture she would say, "Oh that's too dark." But when I made it darker she would say, "Maybe a little lighter?"

 

I think some people are clueless about how much a cake or cookies or anything like that costs. A dozen simple chocolate chip cookies from the supermarket costs $5 yet they expect shaped and beautifully decorated cookies for almost the same price!

smittyditty Posted 30 Jun 2013 , 11:45pm
post #60 of 60

Just FYI you could easily charge $5 for those cookies. They sell just flat cookies at Central Market for $5.00 I was going to buy one just to taste compare but didn't because of price. That is only because I don't like sugar cookies. However if the chocolate chip cookie at Chick-fil-a was $5.00 I'd still buy it!
 

Quote by @%username% on %date%

%body%