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littlecake Posted 12 Sep 2008 , 7:57pm
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i've done a few quinceañeras (sp?) and they explained to me that the whole community gets together and pitches in some money...they are a big deal around here...they rent out the civic center it's so big.

i think it's safe to say, we got people running cons across every race color and creed...lol

a while back a payday loan shark company called and asked if i would donate a cake to them...how crazy was that?????? they should take some of that rip off $$$$ and buy their own dang cake!

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Honeydukes Posted 12 Sep 2008 , 8:13pm
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... First, it's NOT a custom. It's something that people started doing about 10-15 years ago. At first people OFFERED their financial help...




I understand that it might be for you, but in many families it is a custom and has been for many generations. God parents are responsible for the spiritual guidance in a child's life -- their entire life -- and this is included. A Quinceañera is a deeply religious event. The reception is a celebration after a mass given in the girl's honor. So, while some see this as just a "party" others see it differently. Most people would never call a wedding a "party."

Just a note about Padrinos/as. We had many growing up, partly because we had a large family. Several people were included because they were close to the family and would have been "wounded" otherwise. Just because you have many Padrinos helping doesn't mean you're having an extravagant reception. While single and attending school, I paid for postage for my cousin's wedding invitations. It was all I could afford (along with a simple gift) and it made me feel really good to do something for her. I've always thought this was a beautiful tradition.

That being said, it's sounds as if this woman was trying to get a free cake. There are lots of people out there, of various colors and cultures, who are looking for free stuff. And I agree, I think she was saying Godmother. I have family members who say it like Got-mother.

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janebrophy Posted 12 Sep 2008 , 8:28pm
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LOLOLOL Not to make light of the situation, but man that lady has some brass ones for sure.

Mike





LOL! I agree wholeheartedly!!

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Deb_ Posted 12 Sep 2008 , 8:29pm
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My cousin gave her daughter a big quinceanera a few months before and did ask for padrinos (godparents) when she asked me I told her that I could help with the cake since I make them, she said no thank you we already have godparents for the cake. I said I'm sorry I can't help you with money. Our relationship has not been the same, she didn't even come to my daughter's party. It is a very selfish tradition if you may call it that. If you can't afford a party what do it?





Lizziegirl that's awful, but something tells me you're better off without her. Sounds like she only wants to be "family" with people that hand her money!

What's sad about some of these people is in all their greediness, and their desires to have the biggest most lavish party, they lose the true meaning of what being asked to be a Padrina/Padrino is. It is a meaningful religious role not an act of getting something for nothing. I have 1padrino and 1padrina, my birth Godparents.

This custom was in no way EVER used to get free stuff. These people have made up their "own" customs, and I hesitate to call it a custom. So don't try and tell me this has been an acceptable "custom" in your nationality or faith, because if you believe that you know nothing about your religion or ethnic background.


THAT'S DISGUSTING for this woman (and all the others like her) to be exploiting her daughter that way. Using her upcoming birthday to milk strangers out of money and whatever else she wants. She should be ashamed of herself, but people like her have no class, they're only out for what they can scam people out of.

Man I'm boiling up over this icon_mad.gificon_mad.gificon_mad.gificon_mad.gif It's people like this that ruin it for all the good, honest, decent people.

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ccr03 Posted 12 Sep 2008 , 8:32pm
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God parents are responsible for the spiritual guidance in a child's life -- their entire life -- and this is included. A Quinceañera is a deeply religious event. The reception is a celebration after a mass given in the girl's honor.




I cannot agree with this more!!! But as someone who volunteers as the quinceanera coordinator for my church and what I see from people from my village, is that sadly a lot of people have forgotten this. I can't tell you how many families I get per year that are going to have a quinceanera and never go to church. I have a split group of girls that say the extravagent party is what they are most excited about. I have seen firsthand people from all places of Mexico forget about what a quinceanera really means. I have seen them not care a lick about the religious aspect but then show up with a big ol' strech Hummer/Cadillac Escalade limo. I have seen it more times than I want to count, and I guess that's another reason I get frustrated with the idea behind padrinos (and I'm talking about the ones that are just being called upon to fork over money, not the ones being asked to present a religious gift or guidance.).

Now, I'm not cynic. I'm so happy to say that lately I've been getting more families that are about what the quinceanera actually MEANS. And quite honestly, those are the ones I love.

Again, selfishness and exploiting others for one's own gain is the one thing I can't stand.

I TOTALLY understand about having the a big family and stuff like that - we are in teh same boat on that one! icon_smile.gif

Man do I ramble! icon_lol.gif

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this-mama-rocks Posted 12 Sep 2008 , 8:40pm
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Glad to hear you didn't fall for that "bat mother" and her disgusting behavior.

Repeat after me, people, "I'm sorry, but it's just not possible for me to do that."


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JodieF Posted 12 Sep 2008 , 9:54pm
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I was also asked to be a padrino for a wedding cake for people I didn't even know. I was told it would be a tremendous honor. Honestly, I was shocked that it would even be suggested! It's one thing to offer a cake as a gift to a member of your family. It's quite another to try to get free cake just for making a phone call.
How many bakers could afford to do that? I was then treated like a miserable human being because I refused. I was told I must be a very unkind person to refuse such an honor.
Honestly, honors like that I don't need. I have enough trouble taking care of my own family to take on the expenses of another.

Jodie

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Iloveweddings Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 12:14am
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A Quinceañera is a deeply religious event. The reception is a celebration after a mass given in the girl's honor. .




I never knew it was suppose to be a religious event. I've only seen big lavish parties.

I am pretty shocked to hear a stranger tries to get you donate to her daughter's (which you don't know) party. Unbelievable!

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Iloveweddings Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 12:17am
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I am a mexican girl yes i said it mexican. Not just hispanic. My whole family is mexican.




Wow.

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playingwithsugar Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 12:22am
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bellasweet -

You've got to give your family members for trying, right? My grandmother's written English could have been used for code during WW2, but I was always able to read it.

And if you think your family's pronunciations are a tickle, you should hear my Spanglish! icon_lol.gif

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Cakepro Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 12:33am
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LOL, here in Houston, people definitely differentiate themselves by their birthplace - Mexicans are very proud to be Mexican, while other Hispanic people such as El Salvadorians absolutely hate being called Mexican. icon_biggrin.gif

Also, in my experience with the huge, lavish Quincenera's (I know that is misspelled, too lazy to look it up), it's a totally materialistic event, completely bereft of all religious meaning. Just like with Easter and Christmas for so many people. It's sad, IMO, but that's the way our secular culture is.

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Honeydukes Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 7:38am
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I never knew it was suppose to be a religious event. I've only seen big lavish parties. ...




Just like a wedding has a ceremony and reception, a Quinceañera has a mass and then a reception. I've never heard of one that didn't first have a mass. Anybody heard of that -- a party but no mass??

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playingwithsugar Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 12:23pm
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Oh, yeah, my friends. Here in the East, Latinas of other faiths are slowly adopting the reception part of the Quince as one of their family traditions. Most call it the Sweet 16, and do it the following year, but some have the party at 15. I was at a Quince last year where there was no church service prior to the event. It was fully-catered, in the main ballroom of a big hotel. It was a girl's fantasy come true. The mother even ordered custom tablecloths for the hotel to use. By the time they wrote the last check, it cost them over $20,000.

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Starkie Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 12:49pm
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$20,000???? I didn't pay that much for my WEDDING!!! I don't have that much saved right now for my kids EDUCATION!!!! Man oh man! I mean, if you have it extra and just sitting around, great, have the party. But I can't imagine having THAT much disposable income to throw away! If it were me, I would save that for her college education, or give it as a wedding gift so she can buy her first house or something. That's a lot of cash!

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playingwithsugar Posted 13 Sep 2008 , 1:12pm
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The place was an ocean of balloons, flowers, and candles. It looked like something from a Martha magazine gone super-sized, but tastefully done. There were 3 courses served, appetizers, main course, and sweet table. Custom linens, cloth napkins, and a DJ for 8 hours, hired from 5 PM until 1 AM.

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